F Train 7th Avenue Closed

suicide at 7th avenue station reportedly....

Yup, no train service in-sight...

Take the B69 to Grand Army Plaza and from there take the 2 and 3 into the city

Or, walk over to the R, and take that

I was about to go down to the F when there were squad cars, ambulances, and firetrucks converging on the station and I thought I'd better start hoofing it to the R because nothing was going to happen at the F station for awhile.

While it's sad to hear about someone possibly killing themselves I was walking next to some woman on her cell-phone all hysterical to someone about how she "can't be alone right now." Lady, if you actually saw what happened you'd be sticking around for the cops...as it is you think your life is a reality show. So fucking dramatic.

Nope...she was being dramatic...as evidenced by her boyfriend's eye-rolls.

Yes, yes...you're all right. It's a possibility that she had a tragedy happen in her past concerning suicide (for the record so have I) but she just had this "It's all about me" attitude that just bugged. Like the first thing she thinks of is to call someone and tell them the bad news.

...wonder how the second person was hit?

an attempt at heroics?

suicide is selfish

Drunken Revival wrote: Even at my very worst I cannot compare to the horror and lack of sensitivity to the posts above.

I'll keep trying - I promise.

For someone to be at such a low ebb as to commit suicide is truly sad. However, it's hard not to be annoyed by people who throw themselves in front of subway trains. You could scar someone for life by subjecting them to something so graphic. Clearly here the conductor nearly had a heart-attack as a result.....

http://gothamist.com/2009/11/19/investigation_at_park_slope_7th_ave.php

"The train's operator was also taken to the hospital for trauma."

horrible all around.

i was there just after it happened this morning. it is very sad. i think judgement is really unnecessary - judgement towards anyone connected with the situation in any way. i think a sign of weak character. if you can not conjure up a little sympathy for a victim of suicide you're just really insensitive...perhaps feelingless..or connected with suicide yourself in someway and as such self conscious about it. if someone was in such psychic/physical pain they thought dying in front of a train to be a satisfactory option then i am not going to blame them for being so insensitive to others around them. this person was obviously lacking perspective...

some people have what's called a mental illness. (ever heard of it before?) people who are mentally ill need help. and the reason they 'off' themself is probably because there are sadly too many people like you in the world waiting for the chance to accuse someone else of being weak..but sometimes people who suffer and eventually kill themselves endure great pain because they are sensitive people who are hurting inside. these people are better than those who feel no pain. the worst people are those who feel nothing. and so before you judge consider asking yourself why you might be reacting in such an angry way....it's not making the world any better

MOD NOTE: name-calling redacted

Brooklyncommuter, your argument might be better received if you removed some of the expletives and upped the coherency. Also, your reaction seems to be a little disproportionate to the other opinions in this thread.

Over 90% of people in this thread have expressed sadness about the situation. Just because people don't share the same unconditional acceptance of today's events, doesn't mean their opinion isn't valid.

Be careful not to slip on that soapbox....

legalalien wrote: Brooklyncommuter, your argument might be better received if you removed some of the expletives and upped the coherency. Also, your reaction seems to be a little disproportionate to the other opinions in this thread.

Over 90% of people in this thread have expressed sadness about the situation. Just because people don't share the same unconditional acceptance of today's events, doesn't mean their opinion isn't valid.

Be careful not to slip on that soapbox....

i think it's pretty obvious who i was speaking to...and i think those who are sympathetic realize i wasn't speaking to them. and yes, everyone's opinion is valid...and so then i guess so is mine. as for you...so you are defending the 90% with whom i agree? so what's your point? oh and you seem to feel you are above using 'expletives'. o how very 'soapbox' of you...

I guess replying to this thread is like stepping into a shit-storm but I can't help it. I do feel extremely sorry for someone who would commit suicide, but I still agree with others who say it was a selfish act. Not only did they ruin their life, but they most likely scarred the life of the train operator and the witnesses possibly forever. I can't imagine what kind of feelings are going through the train operators head right now. Mentally ill or not- it was a selfish act.

It's like if a mentally deranged person murders someone else - I feel sorry for this person on some level b/c they were deranged enough to commit this act, but I don't excuse their actions one bit.

brooklyncommuter wrote: i was there just after it happened this morning. it is very sad. i think judgement is really unnecessary - judgement towards anyone connected with the situation in any way. i think a sign of weak character. if you can not conjure up a little sympathy for a victim of suicide you're just really insensitive...perhaps feelingless..or connected with suicide yourself in someway and as such self conscious about it. if someone was in such psychic/physical pain they thought dying in front of a train to be a satisfactory option then i am not going to blame them for being so insensitive to others around them. this person was obviously lacking perspective...so to the jackass that says this person should have 'offed' themself somewhere else, you are completely fucked up/ignorant to the idea that some people have what's called a mental illness. (ever heard of it before?) people who are mentally ill need help you dumb fuck. and the reason they 'off' themself is probably because there are sadly too many people like you in the world waiting for the chance to accuse someone else of being weak..but sometimes people who suffer and eventually kill themselves endure great pain because they are sensitive people who are hurting inside. these people are better than those who feel no pain. the worst people are those who feel nothing. and so before you judge consider asking yourself why you might be reacting in such an angry way....it's not making the world any better

they're not a victim, they're a perpetrator... if life is too hard and you just can't take it anymore, then OD on sleeping pills or stick your head in the oven instead of making a public spectacle of your death, and inconveniencing everyone... look at the train driver in this situation (heart attack?)... or what if a kid saw it?

i have absolutely no compassion for suicidal people...

willregistersoon wrote:
It's like if a mentally deranged person murders someone else - I feel sorry for this person on some level b/c they were deranged enough to commit this act, but I don't excuse their actions one bit.

Whilst a little extreme of an example, this is a good point. When does it become acceptable for one to not be responsible for their actions when it so negatively
impacts on others? It's possible to sympathize with someone and still know they are the reason something negative happened.

If the driver were to have had a heart attack and died, that would have been entirely the fault of the jumper. Would everyone still be expected to feel unconditionally sympathetic? Life (and death) is full of grey areas and hardly anything is black and white. Yes, it's sad for the jumper....it just doesn't stop and end there. Sadly they have gone, but they've left an absolute mess now that needs to be addressed.

PS, is it usually as tasty on here? I never knew Park Slope was such a hive of antagonistic people!