5th Ave. Holiday Tree Rant
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anthonycm wrote: So, those that support it being called the Holiday Tree would be equally supportive of calling it the Holiday Candelabra, correct? Or is it just things that allude to Christianity that should be renamed?
If a non-Jew wants to light candles during Chanukah and not observe the holiday, as far as I'm concerned, they can call the thing they put the candles on whatever they want. When a Jewish person observing the holiday does it, it's a menorah, just as I wouldn't presume to tell Christians what to call their Christmas trees. I only ask the same respect from them.
Edited to add that I swore I was going to stay clear of this topic this year, but the crappy weather keeping me inside + having a fully stocked bar at home = me getting into a conversation I'm sure to regret entering later. Even though I'm 100% correct on the matter of Christmas Trees!
Anthony, you're 100% right about Christmas trees and 100% wrong about Holiday trees (two different things, although the first category is a subset of the second). -
Beware the slippery slope of sin. If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and gluttony, and from there, it's but a short step to dancing around a "Christmas" tree.
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^^ Not to mention a Festivus Pole, the ultimate in blasphemy and debauchery
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Mamacita wrote: ^^ Not to mention a Festivus Pole, the ultimate in blasphemy and debauchery
whynot_31 wrote: ....its gonna be excellent!
I am pleased to announce that those interested in the progress of this year's Brooklynian Festivus pole will be able to read this thread for regular updates.
Progress to date:
1. A skilled craftsman, one committed to using only recycled and scrap materials, has volunteered to build the pole.
2. He has created a rough design for the pole in his head.
3. Materials for the pole (wood, metal pole, etc) are being obtained by the "Division of Purchasing, Supplies, Procurement and Acquisitions" (also known as the craftsman and his dog). -
doctorj wrote: Beware the slippery slope of sin. If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and gluttony, and from there, it's but a short step to dancing around a "Christmas" tree.
...and the next thing you know, you're leaving the apostrophe out of the contraction "it's." -
whynot_31 wrote: [quote=Mamacita]^^ Not to mention a Festivus Pole, the ultimate in blasphemy and debauchery
whynot_31 wrote: ....its gonna be excellent!
I am pleased to announce that those interested in the progress of this year's Brooklynian Festivus pole will be able to read this thread for regular updates.
Progress to date:
1. A skilled craftsman, one committed to using only recycled and scrap materials, has volunteered to build the pole.
2. He has created a rough design for the pole in his head.
3. Materials for the pole (wood, metal pole, etc) are being obtained by the "Division of Purchasing, Supplies, Procurement and Acquisitions" (also known as the craftsman and his dog).
Holla if you need help. If you trust me with your tools that is. :twisted: -
I love this site. Thank you all no matter how many times the topic comes up. At least we can write about it and perhaps even change our minds. The yule tree information was great. And the reminders that those who believe in something or someone may still have opposing or conflicting idea on exactly how to practice those beliefs -- and not be afraid to say it.
And yes, it is rainy and dark and a night to write. -
Em- Come over anytime! On your walks, look for lumber for the base of the pole. Some scrap pieces of 2x4's should do nicely. I'll attach wheels to the lumber, which will then be attached (or simply inserted) into the pole. Wheels will allow drunken people to "dance" with the pole if they are so inclined.
Tonight I finished the sign that will go on the top of the pole. It is about 7" x 30". If anyone wants it at the end of the night, they should take it. I put a wall hanger on the back and (of course) signed it
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K. If I find anything tomorrow , I'll stop by. I'll call you first.
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The Festivus Pole should be an UNADORNED aluminum pole!
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It's a HOLIDAY pole! :twisted:
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Em26 wrote: It's a HOLIDAY pole! :twisted:
Only if it's put up by someone who doesn't celebrate Festivus. Since we do, it's a Festivus Pole!
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Carnivore wrote: [quote=Em26]It's a HOLIDAY pole! :twisted:
Only if it's put up by someone who doesn't celebrate Festivus. Since we do, it's a Festivus Pole!
Holiday....Pole...Holiday...Pole...HOLIDAY POLE.
Can't wait to sign and adorn the Holiday pole.It's gonna be swell.
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You are both wrong.
Em- I celebrate Festivus. I am building a Festivus pole. Deal with it.
Carnivore - The pole will be adorned, but don't worry it will look nothing like a Christmas tree. Deal with it.
It will have the above sign at the top (a piece of wood will be inserted into the pole so the sign just sort of rests at the top). The bottom of the pole will feature a wood base, complete with wheels. People will be able to mark up the pole with markers, magnets, etc should they choose.
As a result of being made of galvanized steel (not aluminum) the thing is going to be kinda heavy, hence the wheeled base.
I'm going to choose a beautiful, free, locally available, free-range pole, about 5' in height.
The poles are about 7" in diameter. I have lots of choices...
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whynot_31 wrote: You are both wrong.
Fine , I'm wrong but my BFF is right. It's supposed to be just a pole. No decorations like a Christmas tree.
Em- I celebrate Festivus. I am building a Festivus pole. Deal with it.
Carnivore - The pole will be adorned. Deal with it.
But ,WHATEVER , do what you want. As long as we have a pole for the Festivus celebration. -
As a result of being tagged in black marker by various attendees, I can assure folks it will not resemble a christmas tree in any way.
Note: black marker.
anyone that defaces my pole with a red marker or a green marker is in trouble. -
whynot_31 wrote: ]Carnivore - The pole will be adorned, but don't worry it will look nothing like a Christmas tree. Deal with it.
Adorned with weaksauce, perhaps. -
How about silver marker?
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whynot_31 wrote: As a result of being tagged in black marker by various attendees, I can assure folks it will not resemble a christmas tree in any way.
So it's like that huh? I'm bringing my red marker. Yup I am.
Note: black marker.
anyone that defaces my pole with a red marker or a green marker is in trouble.
DEAL WITH IT ,Whynot. -
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jeffrey wrote: How about silver marker?
Yup, we'll give Carnivore the silver marker, that way whatever he writes will be invisible. -
Nah , my BFF can use my red marker.
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Em26 wrote: [quote=whynot_31]As a result of being tagged in black marker by various attendees, I can assure folks it will not resemble a christmas tree in any way.
So it's like that huh? I'm bringing my red marker. Yup I am.
Note: black marker.
anyone that defaces my pole with a red marker or a green marker is in trouble.
DEAL WITH IT ,Whynot.
Comments like that may negatively impact your expressed desire to join the "Division of Purchasing, Supplies, Procurement and Acquisitions". -
^^LOL! I can deal with it....
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Bring it!
I can deal with it.
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If I come will you let me paint and play with the tools? And I'm not talking about wrenches or hammers. I'm talking power drills and electric saws.Ya know , shit with power. Yeeah. Huh? Can I?
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whynot_31 wrote: [quote=Carnivore][quote=whynot_31]]Carnivore - The pole will be adorned, but don't worry it will look nothing like a Christmas tree. Deal with it.
Adorned with weaksauce, perhaps.
You are welcome to bring some of my weaksauce. I have gallons of it.
No thanks. -
Em-
We won't need to paint the pole, except at the event when I fully expect to Carnivore to write the "border of Prospect Heights is Washington Ave" over and over in red marker.
...but yes, we can build the base using lots of power tools the table saw, router, drill, and miter saw.
It can be the sturdiest base ever! We could build it to withstand people shimming up the pole. -
whynot_31 wrote: We won't need to paint the pole, except at the event when I expect to Carnivore writes the "border of Prospect Heights is Washington Ave" over and over in red marker.
I will not adorn a Festivus Pole. That is counter to the spirit of Festivus.
...but yes, we can build the base using lots of power tools the table saw, router, drill, and miter saw.
It can be the sturdiest base ever! We could build it to withstand people shimming up the pole. -
Carnivore wrote: [quote=whynot_31]We won't need to paint the pole, except at the event when I expect to Carnivore writes the "border of Prospect Heights is Washington Ave" over and over in red marker.
I will not adorn a Festivus Pole. That is counter to the spirit of Festivus.
...but yes, we can build the base using lots of power tools the table saw, router, drill, and miter saw.
It can be the sturdiest base ever! We could build it to withstand people shimming up the pole.
...says the man that abuses his mod powers, contrary to the spirit of Brooklynian
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