bad hit and run in Prospect heights

Wasn't there another hit and run on Flatbush near St Marks not long ago? Cars go way too fast on Flatbush and run the lights all the time.

It's gonna get even worse when the Barclay Center has opened - can you picture it? The usual plus more beer-sodden fans post-game zooming around the nabe. Good times. And when are the Barclay's people or at least Ratner's realize now Nazi-like that Barclay's eagle insignia is? I know the bank has Nazi ties, but using such a symbol now is really out to lunch.

Jack Krohn wrote: Exploiting a tragedy to further your anti Ratner agenga. Real class.

BTW, I thought that the arena was supposed to cause gridlock, which would naturally slow traffic, no? Make up your mind.

reported that one of the victims is brain dead. During the transit strike there were many comments by city officials that the livery/ghetto/dollar vans would be regulated,fined and stopped.Flatbush ave from start to finish is a drag strip. Instead of running over a traffic cone or hitting a wall it's people walking and riding bikes that are run over. This thread is only a follow up to A-holes speeding through school zones and dense city streets.. Check points. Slows traffic,catches drunks,finds the uninsured,protects kids that are not in safety seats,gets drugs and guns off the street,most important lets drivers who are running lights and speeding that the police are aware. God bless these poor girls and their families.

Jack Krohn wrote: Exploiting a tragedy to further your anti Ratner agenga. Real class.

BTW, I thought that the arena was supposed to cause gridlock, which would naturally slow traffic, no? Make up your mind.

tsk tsk tsk, poor jack is confused again



jackie boy, for those who actually live here

in prospect heights

any time is appropriate ratner bashing

don't you fools read a post before criticizing it? Just saying that this type of tragedy is likely to get worse with boozy fans leaving the Barclay's Center and getting into their cars (parked on our streets)......

regardless of how much traffic there is or is not, I have little if any trouble crossing safely at an intersection. The trick is to wait for the light to be in your favor and watch for turning cars.
Those who wear dark clothing at night and then jaywalk against a traffic light are greatly increasing their chances of being hit.

Ive had a few close calls crossing flatbush to get to park slope. When I have a real sense of foreboding I will use the underpass at the Q stop on 7th. At least people have that option if they dont want to cross at street level. In regards to the new Stadium just imagine how many drunk people are going to pour out onto the streets and get hit by cars after a game.

the time i came the closest to being hit -- my outstretched hands were hit, but luckily the bozo behind the wheel did hit his brakes in time to avoid snuffing me out with his monster urban assault vehicle -- i had just decided NOT to jaywalk, on account of its being a beautiful sunny day and why take the risk?

i looked both ways, crossed with the light, and was nearly killed by some jackass who was too busy checking out a girl on the sidewalk to look in his direction of travel as he barreled into the intersection.

yes, be careful crossing the street, but don't kid yourself that whether you get hit is entirely in your control.

I have lost count of how many times I've witnessed people driving like maniacs on Flatbush.

The worst intersection is Flatbush and 8th avenue, you have about 20 seconds to fully cross Flatbush before the traffic from Park Slope starts bounding directly your way, while the light is still supposedly yours. A total shame. The drivers just keep going and act as if they were making everybody a favor by slowing down just a bit so as to not to roll over a stroller or an old lady.

That said, today afternoon I saw a couple of foolish teenagers crossing Flatbush in front of Key Food in the wrong light. Drivers honked like crazy, and the kidswere right in the middle, with a smug expression on their grinning faces. I wanted to somewhat get them to Park Place and show them the huge electronic sign they have set there, "FATAL HIT AND RUN.. " Wonder if it would have made any difference.

Bricktop wrote: Wirenut, I was hit by a car on Vanderbilt at 10AM on a bright morning as I crossed in the middle of the crosswalk.....it was also a hit and run, though thankfully I wasn't as badly hurt as those girls were. You are blaming the victims here without knowing if they were crossing the street correctly. Getting hit by a car as a pedestrian often - usually? - has nothing to do with the victim's behavior.

I was speaking in general terms and not specifically of the two women that got hurt recently.

I too had a bump from the front bumper of a car on a sunny day in Queens while crossing legally. It can happen at any time anywhere to anyone. But statistically speaking, if you jaywalk while cars have the green, you are increasing your chances of getting hit, it's just simple logic.

I drive as well as walk alot. When walking - I wait my turn. I can't count how many time adults walking children to school in the morning walk right out in front of my car when I have the green light. It happens at least twice every day. Some of them look - others don't even look.

I challenge you (or anyone else) to spend 15 minutes watching people cross a street - anywhere - and count how many cross legally compared to those that cross even when vehicles are coming at them.

A friend of mine knows one of the victims, Erinn Phelan. Here is the email he forwarded me from the family:

Diahann wrote:
Good Evening

Thank you for your positive thoughts and prayers. We have been communicating with Erinn’s parents and the hospital and would like to keep you all up to date on Erinn’s status. As of this evening, she is still in critical condition. We will continue to send updates as new information becomes available.

We’ve had some requests for an address to send cards to Erinn and her family. All cards should be sent to.

Kings County Hospital
451 Clarkson Avenue, Building D, 3rd floor North
Brooklyn , New York 11203

Please refrain from sending flowers at this time, as they are not permitted in ICU.

If you are interested in speaking to a counselor about this, please feel free to let us know and we can arrange this for you.

Thank you for keeping Erinn and her family in your thoughts and prayers

they made an arrest today, finally, in the hit & run case:

http://origin.ny1.com/7-brooklyn-news-content/top_stories/114989/sources--arrest-made-in-brooklyn-hit-and-run

What is going on with Erin? Still in hospital?

actually, she seems to be "recovering in MA"

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/04/07/2010-04-07_erinn_phelan_bloomberg_aide_in_coma_after_bklyn_hitandrun_recovering_in_mass_reh.html