Unreal, husband just got the stupidest parking ticket!!!!!!
Husband just parked his car (at a location in Manhattan). While he was at the machine getting the parking slip, a parking agent wrote him a ticket for not having the slip in his dash! Just HTH are people supposed to walk to the machine, get a slip and have a slip in their dash at the same time??
The ticket was written at 11:49 and his parking machine slip says it was purchased at 11:48. He saw the woman writing him a ticket and she said she looked up and down the street to see if anyone was coming back with a slip, but didn't look up and down the sidewalk to see if anyone was at the machine buying a slip. ARgh
and, yeah, I know he can beat the ticket, but, it's a PITA to have to get these tickets that shouldn't be written in the first place and have to deal with this bS!!
The ticket was written at 11:49 and his parking machine slip says it was purchased at 11:48. He saw the woman writing him a ticket and she said she looked up and down the street to see if anyone was coming back with a slip, but didn't look up and down the sidewalk to see if anyone was at the machine buying a slip. ARgh
and, yeah, I know he can beat the ticket, but, it's a PITA to have to get these tickets that shouldn't be written in the first place and have to deal with this bS!!
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Send in the parking receipt showing the time, along with the ticket. You should get it dismissed.
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I was just wondering the other day how often this happens....
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I know we will get it dismisses but it is totally assinine to me that it even happens!!
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http://council.nyc.gov/html/releases/prestated_11_16_09.shtml
http://www.newyorkparkingticket.com/Blog/bid/28340/NYC-Council-Passes-a-5-Minute-Grace-Period-Parking-Law
That's why NYC enacted the 5 minute grace period (overriding our good Mayor's veto) late last year. It seems that the agents are jumping on these because they can tell the motorist, "Just mail it in. It will be dismissed automatically." But you're right. It's ludicrous. -
Uh,oh. Sorry. Just came across more than one site that claims that the new grace period law doesn't take effect until March 21, 2010. Better check more thoroughly.
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EZ-Pass parking meters are the only solution. You get scanned. THEY always know where you are. Perfect right?
5 minute grace period. 6th minute's a bitch. Future new law will be 7 minute grace period? -
ahahahahahh
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i got one of these tickets on atlantic, across from the lich outpatient clinic (hoyt?). i mailed in the munimeter receipt and it was dismissed. i imagine this is a frequent source of quota-meeting among ticket agents. even :roll: stoopider ticket: i got an orange envelop windshield present for "missing eqipment," after someone had apparently sideswiped the driver's side mirror off my parked car, the mangled remains were obvious just a few yards away in the street. talk about adding insult to injury! that one was dismissed, as well, but only because i was so fed up i sold the car and the ticket did not match my new registration, by time it was adjucated.
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Subject: You Win
Hi Long Time Park Sloper
The parking rule permits you to walk to a Muni-meter and back to your car
to place the receipt on your dashboard. One of our other friends made a great
suggestion, which is to fight your parking ticket by mail.
Send in a letter by certified mail, RRR with your parking ticket and Muni-meter receipt explaining to the Judge your were walking back to your car with the receipt. The judge will see the time on your parking ticket and receipt corroborates your story.
Good luck. -
Yes, we are doing that, we always fight our parking tickets by certified mail, but, again, my complaint is that it never should have happened to begin with. That is always the answer when you complain to the ticketing agent 'fight it, you will win". But, I shouldn't have to expend my time and energy to begin with on fighting a ticket that is BS, that is what ticks me off.
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LTS
I hear you loud and clear.
Is there any action we can take to prevent this abusive tactic by the parking ticket warriors? -
Hubby has decided to write a letter about this and other incidents to Bil DeBlasio, not sure if it will get us anywhere, but it can't hurt. In the past, he has called 311 and reported specific ticket agents who have over and over again written erroneous tickets. Their supervisors have said they would speak to them, but who knows.
Off to the post office to send out the certified not guilty letter plea! -
LTS
Bravo! -
A couple of thoughts...
1. If the traffic cop knew they were writing a ticket that wasn't deserved, wouldn't this constitute perjury?
2. This sort of crap doesn't help anyone...It costs the victim time, and some money--at least for postage, if nothing else, and costs the city some amount of money to process the dismissal, and what was accomplished in the end beyond wasted money and annoying people?
Maybe some reporter out there wants to take a look at it from that angle... -
Subject: What's the problem?
I'm sympathetic to the officer who wrote the ticket. She looked, didn't see anyone coming, and started the ticket.
How was the officer to determine that the car had only been there a minute?
How was the officer to determine that someone was buying the muni pass?
Of course your husband did nothing wrong and doesn't deserve the ticket, and that's why you're exercising your right to dispute it via mail. There's a gap in the system, but it's not the officer's fault. -
Every so often there is a story on this exact situation on the local network news.
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Subject: Re: What's the problem?
Magicube wrote: I'm sympathetic to the officer who wrote the ticket. She looked, didn't see anyone coming, and started the ticket.
The officer was to determine that someone was buying a muni pass by simply looking on the sidewalk in the direction of where the muni meter is to see if someone was there buying a pass. In that case, she would have seen a man there buying one, and simply could have said "is this your car?". It's not hard.
How was the officer to determine that the car had only been there a minute?
How was the officer to determine that someone was buying the muni pass?
Of course your husband did nothing wrong and doesn't deserve the ticket, and that's why you're exercising your right to dispute it via mail. There's a gap in the system, but it's not the officer's fault. -
Right, I totally get you. As I said, I think the system's flawed. I just want to give the officer a fair shake. The officer's job isn't to wait and see if the guy hanging out at the muni meter is or isn't buying a pass for any given vehicle that she sees without a receipt on the dash. That's all. Tons of people park at meters without paying and park on streets with the muni meters without paying. I see it every day in midtown Manhattan. I'm not judging whether it's right or wrong--I'm just saying that the officer didn't really do anything wrong. This gross physical system of having to leave your vehicle, go to a location somewhere else in the block, perform a transaction, then return to your vehicle and leave physical evidence of payment is going to lead to problems like this.
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Well said, Magicube.
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Subject: Re: What's the problem?
LongTimeSloper wrote: [quote=Magicube]I'm sympathetic to the officer who wrote the ticket. She looked, didn't see anyone coming, and started the ticket.
The officer was to determine that someone was buying a muni pass by simply looking on the sidewalk in the direction of where the muni meter is to see if someone was there buying a pass. In that case, she would have seen a man there buying one, and simply could have said "is this your car?". It's not hard.
How was the officer to determine that the car had only been there a minute?
How was the officer to determine that someone was buying the muni pass?
Of course your husband did nothing wrong and doesn't deserve the ticket, and that's why you're exercising your right to dispute it via mail. There's a gap in the system, but it's not the officer's fault.
I think the city should issue flags on 10 foot fold-able poles to drivers so when they get out of their car they can waive them in the air. This would indicate that they are the ones on their way to the MUNI meter box. -
Very amusing ring
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Magicube wrote: Right, I totally get you. As I said, I think the system's flawed. I just want to give the officer a fair shake. The officer's job isn't to wait and see if the guy hanging out at the muni meter is or isn't buying a pass for any given vehicle that she sees without a receipt on the dash. That's all. Tons of people park at meters without paying and park on streets with the muni meters without paying. I see it every day in midtown Manhattan. I'm not judging whether it's right or wrong--I'm just saying that the officer didn't really do anything wrong. This gross physical system of having to leave your vehicle, go to a location somewhere else in the block, perform a transaction, then return to your vehicle and leave physical evidence of payment is going to lead to problems like this.
Yes, i can agree with this. Perhaps, perhaps, the 5 minute grace period will help this -
good luck on it, they are raising revenue via any type of tickets without raising too much taxes.
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LongTimeSloper wrote: Very amusing ring
There should be more...
The officers should fire off a flare, announcing to the world that they are about to write a ticket. Then, they should stand next to the car for 5 minutes so that the grace period is observed. -
Ok, so, you are saying it is perfectly ok for officers to write bogus tickets then? Doesn't matter if the ticket is accurate or not, doesn't matter that they waste citizen's time who aren't doing anything wrong and the appeals judges time, just write the ticket no matter if it is real or not, yeah, that is the way to go........
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i gotten 5 tickets in my life time where i was in the car, moving already, after i drop someone off. they would drive in front of me block me off during a red light or stop sign and give me a ticket for double parking. i thought about running their asses over in front of me. too bad i don't have a built in camera to catch these cooked cops and traffic cops.
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[quote="LongTimeSloper"]Ok, so, you are saying it is perfectly ok for officers to write bogus tickets then? Doesn't matter if the ticket is accurate or not, doesn't matter that they waste citizen's time who aren't doing anything wrong and the appeals judges time, just write the ticket no matter if it is real or not, yeah, that is the way to go........[/quote
No it is not ok to write bogus tickers. But how did she know you hubby was at the MUNI meter? I don't think it is a conspiracy, it is just gonna happen when the MUNI Meter is halfway down the block form the car.
It sucks and I feel for you, but I don't much can be done to make it not happen. -
A simple head turn towards the muni meter would have done it, it really isn;'t that hard, ya know?
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you think the ticket-writing meter person didn't know he was getting the slip from the muni meter?
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ringrunner wrote: I think the city should issue flags on 10 foot fold-able poles to drivers so when they get out of their car they can waive them in the air. This would indicate that they are the ones on their way to the MUNI meter box.
ringrunner wrote: There should be more...
By that same token (the flag above) I'd add that all ticket agents be made to wear a Japanese nobori strapped to their back so you can clearly see them coming down the block.
The officers should fire off a flare, announcing to the world that they are about to write a ticket. Then, they should stand next to the car for 5 minutes so that the grace period is observed.
Perhaps in bright orange. Commissioned by Christo or something.
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