New to Prospect Heights/Underhill -- Security Questions
Hey, we decided to move to Underhill and St. Johns and are pretty happy. We get the idea of how the neighborhood is, decent but some problems. Have seen some threads of breakins from last year right around here. So we have some questions regarding landlord security issues, and also for fun I'll put a food question first, and am happy for any food recs in the neighborhood, though we've seen many of the obvious places.
1) Any decent and clean normal diners besides Tom's?
2) Bonus food question: anyplace to get organic produce and/or organic bulk items? Seems the park slope co-op is suspending new memberships briefly during meeting room renovations.
OK the security stuff:
1) Our apartment door was clearly attempted to be jimmied open at one point before we moved in, and there is a small dent that leaves access to the regular bolt slightly exposed, i.e. you could get a very small tool in there. Managing agent says super will look at it but if he says it's OK nothing will be done. I think one of those steel strips needs to be bolted over the area. Any thoughts on the legal requirements here?
2) Apartment door has a deadbolt but super has no key for it. Our regular bolt is just a single lock, i.e. there is not additionally a button to press on the door latch to activate an automatic lock as well. Is there a requirement that the landlord provide at least one deadbolt? They want to charge us 75 bucks to have the super install a new core, the locksmith would charge 75 plus 39 service fee. I can't find the legal requirements for this online either, seems in NY a deadbolt should be required from the Landlord.
3) Saw a thread about fire escape breakins. Our window to the fire escape has no gate or other security, other than a normal window lock. Hate to leave that window closed, any other options or admonitions to keep it closed from y'all?
Glad to share and discuss other neigborhood stuff but looking to get started with this today while it's still fresh.
Thanks guys and glad to be here.
1) Any decent and clean normal diners besides Tom's?
2) Bonus food question: anyplace to get organic produce and/or organic bulk items? Seems the park slope co-op is suspending new memberships briefly during meeting room renovations.
OK the security stuff:
1) Our apartment door was clearly attempted to be jimmied open at one point before we moved in, and there is a small dent that leaves access to the regular bolt slightly exposed, i.e. you could get a very small tool in there. Managing agent says super will look at it but if he says it's OK nothing will be done. I think one of those steel strips needs to be bolted over the area. Any thoughts on the legal requirements here?
2) Apartment door has a deadbolt but super has no key for it. Our regular bolt is just a single lock, i.e. there is not additionally a button to press on the door latch to activate an automatic lock as well. Is there a requirement that the landlord provide at least one deadbolt? They want to charge us 75 bucks to have the super install a new core, the locksmith would charge 75 plus 39 service fee. I can't find the legal requirements for this online either, seems in NY a deadbolt should be required from the Landlord.
3) Saw a thread about fire escape breakins. Our window to the fire escape has no gate or other security, other than a normal window lock. Hate to leave that window closed, any other options or admonitions to keep it closed from y'all?
Glad to share and discuss other neigborhood stuff but looking to get started with this today while it's still fresh.
Thanks guys and glad to be here.
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Subject: Re: New to Prospect Heights/Underhill -- Security Questions
Ian2010 wrote: 1) Any decent and clean normal diners besides Tom's?
We like "The Usual" :
(on the East side of Vanderbilt between Prospect & St. Marks)
http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-usual-brooklyn
http://www.menupages.com/restaurants/the-usual/
Family-run, very well priced and clean inside. Sometimes the tables could use an extra wipe, and the service can be a bit slow after you get your order (that part's usually pretty fast, actually).
Really nice people. The brothers that own and work in the place will go out of their way to remember you and greet you.
They definitely appreciate your business.Ian2010 wrote: 2) Bonus food question: anyplace to get organic produce and/or organic bulk items? Seems the park slope co-op is suspending new memberships briefly during meeting room renovations.
Dunno if there's a CSA location around there but if you're totally in doubt there's always one of the following:
- The weekend Farmer's Market at GAP (but may be a little pricey)
- http://www.urbanorganic.com/ - NOTE: NOT all local..some fruit from other countries, but organic
or the old standby:
- http://freshdirect.com
Welcome, and good luck! -
get the window grate AND keep the window closed when you're not around. also, consider renters insurance. small price to pay for $10,000 worth of protection.
also, what you got against dirty diners? i think there's another greek diner near where you're moving, on the crown heights side of washington. teddy's? is that place still open?
and there's also the purity restaurant on underhill. and the usual on vanderbilt.
*edit*: i'd recommend you try your fries "all-dressed" at the usual. that's montreal style. also, don't mention hockey to mike for a few months, he's probably still sore about the habs. -
food:
1. Diner: Yup, as Bobby say, go to Teddy's Greek Diner at Washington and approximately Lincoln.
2. There's that CSA (aka "monthly box of vegetable") place in Crown Heights, but I'm not a member. There's also the weekly produce Farm Market thing at GAP every weekend.
security:
1. Give super $ to install steel strip, or ask his permission to hire a handyman. Do not annoy super with "legal requirements".
2. Lock likely just needs a new cylinder. You can install one of these yourself for less than $30, including parts. Do not annoy super with "legal requirements". Make sure to give super a key to new lock.
3. Buy child window bars. While designed to keep infants IN, they are also effective at keeping people OUT while letting breeze in. They are cheap, and can be installed with a drill. Use big screws.
....don't build a fortress, just make your apt less attractive to theives. Don't have your laptop and stereo equipment visible from the window. ...pull down the shade when you leave each day for work. Close your window as well. -
Woah, are you saying they have Poutine? Oh, wait, not sure which place you mean has the fries Montreal Style, help I'm hungry already.
Hey I love dirty diners, just not pricey "diners" lol. We like Tom's just fine, we just don't always want an orange and a cookie.bobbybrummel wrote: get the window grate AND keep the window closed when you're not around. also, consider renters insurance. small price to pay for $10,000 worth of protection.
also, what you got against dirty diners? i think there's another greek diner near where you're moving, on the crown heights side of washington. teddy's? is that place still open?
and there's also the purity restaurant on underhill. and the usual on vanderbilt.
*edit*: i'd recommend you try your fries "all-dressed" at the usual. that's montreal style. also, don't mention hockey to mike for a few months, he's probably still sore about the habs. -
whynot_31 wrote: 3. Buy child window bars. While designed to keep infants IN, they are also effective at keeping people OUT while letting breeze in. They are cheap, and can be installed with a drill. Use big screws.
If he puts child window bars on fire escape windows, doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a fire escape? -
arches wrote: [quote=whynot_31]3. Buy child window bars. While designed to keep infants IN, they are also effective at keeping people OUT while letting breeze in. They are cheap, and can be installed with a drill. Use big screws.
If he puts child window bars on fire escape windows, doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a fire escape?
some have a pin that can't be removed from the outside, but can be removed from the inside.
he could also install those scissor type ones, but those are really ugly and don't let much air and light in. -
Hey guys, guys!:) I work fast. Super will put an iron bar over the door latch no charge, got the new deadbolt core $75, getting used fire escape open/close security gate parts and labor $200 can't complain. I see the fries are at the Usual [edit], saw it.
Can open what I think you mean by scissors gate when here if desired, this one's not so ugly, it's silvery and not rusty. I don't think it would be hard to ge on that fire escape. -
I lived on St Johns (half way between Underhill and Washington) -- I was robbed blind. here's my suggestion.
(1) The front door is *not* how the burglars are getting in, so don't worry about that. Besides, I'm sure your lovely neighbors will buzz anyone into the building anyway -- this is amazing to me, but it's standard.
(2) Ignore the advice about the baby grate. They are WORTHLESS for security. That's how the burglars came into our apartment. They basically bend and peel off -- I don't care how big the screw are. This is not what they're designed to do -- you can fold and bend these with your bare hands, never mind a crow bar!
(3) Keep the window closed and locked when you're not there... even if you leave for an hour or two (yep, that's how we were cleaned out). There is an alternative -- "peg" the window so it can only open about 3 inches. Of course, make sure you can easily remove the thing since this is your fire exit! (remember putting a block on top of the lower sash isn't doing much cuz -- (a) you lower the window and the block falls out, or (b) the upper sash can still slide down!)
(4) Get renter's insurance!! I didn't have it. That was an EXPENSIVE oversight.
(5) None of the buildings over there are "fancy" doorman or high-end service buildings. There is NO reason for your super to have a key to your apartment. Get a new deadbolt, install it yourself or have a locksmith do it. And keep the keys! If they need to get into your apartment, they will... by asking you. If it's a proper emergency like a fire -- firemen have axes and sledgehammers.
(5a) Because you don't have the key to the old deadbolt, you may need a locksmith... not to mention, the old tenant has the key.
(6) The detective we spoke to after the burglary said that the likelihood of someone *breaking glass* is very low. So as long as the window is locked, you're in pretty good shape. I thought that was interesting. Also, VERY few surfaces actaull
(7) Is there a window *next to* the fire escape? That's how they got into our apartment.... same rules for windows ON the fire escape.
(8) Get renter's insurance!!
(9) Get renter's insurance!!
(10) I know the grocery store on the corner of St Johns and Underhill is all fancy and renovated now... but does it still smell like cat piss? -
You do work fast...
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Oh... and I never finished #6 -- I was saying, we discovered that VERY few surfaces can actually hold a fingerprint. It ain't all CSI Miami out there!
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Hmmm there is a window "next to" the fire escape, but it's a good 3 feet away. I know it could be done with the right equipment but seems pretty unlikely. I could see looking into getting the plugs there. Sorry for your burglary. Will look into renter's insurance.
How do you peg a window?
Going to look at Teddy's now just to see.
Oh, and the corner deli is very nice, didn't notice any bad smells. Nice that the fancy Key food on Flatbush is open 24/7. -
Ian2010 wrote: How do you peg a window?
First, pick a good rock.
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LOL Great one! I'm outta here for now. Glad to see that nothing changes on the internet.
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with window closed, drill two holes that go thru both window frames: one on left, one on right side. Insert large nail or bolt in holes. It is pegged shut
you can peg it open, say 6" by doing the same thing with the window open 6".
...a valid method if you think the guy won't break the glass to get in. -
Our window *next to* the fire escape was open/unlocked... about 3 ft away, I suppose. One guy must have climbed off the side of the fire escape -- climbed in the window -- then walked around and opened the security gate and let his buddies in through the fire escape window.
yeah -- Renter's insurance is like $125 a year. i have state farm. but there are lots of place to get it. Quick phone call and you're set.
Here's the Tip Sheet from the NYPD
http://www.archive.org/download/CrimePreventionTips/CrimePreventionTipsFlyers5-6-10.pdf -
I guess they call it "pinning" -- whatever.
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Ian2010 wrote: Woah, are you saying they have Poutine?
poutine has curds, right? i don't think they can get the curds for it, so they approximate with mozzarella. which is basically just disco fries. -
Subject: I host movie nights at a great Prospect Heights cafe/rest.
Underhill is a beautiful stretch, not too much to worry about, though there are certainly drugs on St. Johns and Lincoln. Be aware of your surroundings.
As for nice places to eat, there's a great, relatively new cafe/restaurant on Washington Ave a few blocks past Tom's: ORTINE is at 622 Washington between Dean/Pacific.
I host classic films in their backyard every Thursday night through the summer, and program and host film events around the borough, generally on wednesdays.
kingscountycinemasociety.org
ortine.com
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OK. We're in the back of the building so you'd need to get in or on the roof first. Probably look harder into the pegging/pinning thing given your experience. Thanks for the fact sheet, will review that later but looks really helpful.
Thanks for all the recs everyone. Ortine looks great, will have to see where that is, movie nite sounds great. Teddy's looks fine and has a good garden. Cafe Shane also looks good with a nice ambience and music. Time to step away from the laptop.tybur6 wrote: Our window *next to* the fire escape was open/unlocked... about 3 ft away, I suppose. One guy must have climbed off the side of the fire escape -- climbed in the window -- then walked around and opened the security gate and let his buddies in through the fire escape window.
yeah -- Renter's insurance is like $125 a year. i have state farm. but there are lots of place to get it. Quick phone call and you're set.
Here's the Tip Sheet from the NYPD
http://www.archive.org/download/CrimePreventionTips/CrimePreventionTipsFlyers5-6-10.pdf -
If you're interested in the Crown Heights CSA, email Maia and she can give you all the details. We joined, this a first time event, we met the farmers who will be supplying our veggies, eggs and fruit. You should check it out. Central Brooklyn CSA Group Email [[email protected]]
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Thanks, but the Crown Heights CSA website indicated they were all booked up for 2010. Sounded good otherwise.
rosweed wrote: If you're interested in the Crown Heights CSA, email Maia and she can give you all the details. We joined, this a first time event, we met the farmers who will be supplying our veggies, eggs and fruit. You should check it out. Central Brooklyn CSA Group Email [[email protected]]
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Sorry, I didn't realize they were booked.
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