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Very Very Loud Music from 685 Sterling Place — Brooklynian

Very Very Loud Music from 685 Sterling Place

Last Saturday June 19th starting at about 7:30PM, we had our introduction to summer out-door parties using PA system.
The floor in my place was vibrating...
Typically the very very loud music continues into early morning hours.
We have had the same problem in previous summers.
I tried calling 311, was unable to reach an operator. Called the 77th. The music did not stop.
I am trying to reach out to as many people as possible who are affected by these kinds of events.
In order to make changes and improve the quality of life in and around our homes we need to address this problem as a group.
Please respond to this post and let me know if you share the same problem.
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  • Go to the offender and try a dialog. It probably won't work, but it's worth a try, especially if you have other tenants lined up to complain.

    Call the landlord / management company of the building. Threaten a building wide rent strike if it doesn't stop,

    Talk to other people in your building. Odds are they hate it too, but think they're alone and don't know what to do. Many people are afraid of calling 311 or 911 because they don't think it's anonymous and think they'll be labeled a snitch.

    Call 311. Have your neighbors call 311. Call 911 and say you think there's illicit activity going on. Be creative.

    Call Marty Markowitz's office. I've gotten a lot help from them.

    Call your city councilor.

    Call your state representative. Ours lives on my block. He has pull and connections.

    Buy earplugs and/or a loud fan.
  • Call and WRITE to the above. Find out about your local laws.
  • in the meantime, get yourself some high quality noise-cancelling headphones.

    Wear them with earplugs in, it will make a huge difference for your sanity....
  • Subject: didn't u know about block parties before u moved there?

    outdoor parties using a pa system are normal for crown heights. didn't u know that before moving there? why are you imposing your values and background on people who have lived there for a long time.

    don't try and change others' behavior....move!
  • Subject: Re: didn't u know about block parties before u moved there?

    bklynnyc1 wrote: outdoor parties using a pa system are normal for crown heights. didn't u know that before moving there? why are you imposing your values and background on people who have lived there for a long time.

    don't try and change others' behavior....move!
    This is a tricky one for me. On the one hand I put up with a certain degree of noise from my neighbors because I like a neighborhood where occasionally I can play some loud music on the weekends.

    But in essence, you're saying "Let people act in a way that's at best oblivious, at worst contemptuous towards their neighbors, because they were here first."

    And that's wrong. I enjoy most everything about this neighborhood, but we all have our limits on what is acceptable. Every neighborhood is going to have a faction that thinks it's too loud, or too quiet or whatever. But in calling for blanket acceptance of a practice, you're the one coming across as intolerant.

    The answer lies in the middle ground, people.
  • Subject: Re: didn't u know about block parties before u moved there?

    bklynnyc1 wrote: outdoor parties using a pa system are normal for crown heights. didn't u know that before moving there? why are you imposing your values and background on people who have lived there for a long time.

    don't try and change others' behavior....move!
    Yeah buddy, criminal behavior was pretty "normal" for this neighborhood too, and acceptance of that criminal behavior was pretty "normal" for this neighborhood too. And guess what? Its not just the new people, not all your long time neighbors are really happy about your super loud parties. Just because you/ve gotten away with it for a long time doesnt mean that its okay, respectful of your neighbors, and great for the neighborhood.

    Perhaps you could explain why only you should be able to do what you want at everybodies expense. Nobody should be able to sleep, or good forbid take a nap in the afternoon, listen to their own music or tv, or even enjoy their backyard because you wanna listen to your music loud. Who is forcing their "values" on whom?
  • Subject: Re: didn't u know about block parties before u moved there?

    bklynnyc1 wrote: outdoor parties using a pa system are normal for crown heights. didn't u know that before moving there? why are you imposing your values and background on people who have lived there for a long time.

    don't try and change others' behavior....move!
    What do backgrounds and values have to do with respect for other people's right to some peace and quiet? A lot of things have been going on in Crown Heights for a very long time that aren't necessarily right and people are well within their rights to complain.

    I'm not saying there should never be any parties, but they should be done in a respectful way. Neighbors should be invited + given a heads up, and they can't happen every weekend or during the week when people have to work.

    To be cross with the OP for demanding the courtesy and respect they deserve as a neighbor seems silly to me and is reflective of some of the fundamental problems in CH. Lol. "We have been having our parties and how dare anyone complain about it!"
  • Subject: Re: Very Very Loud Music from 685 Sterling Place

    friebs wrote: Last Saturday June 19th starting at about 7:30PM, we had our introduction to summer out-door parties using PA system.
    The floor in my place was vibrating...
    Typically the very very loud music continues into early morning hours.
    We have had the same problem in previous summers.
    I tried calling 311, was unable to reach an operator. Called the 77th. The music did not stop.
    I am trying to reach out to as many people as possible who are affected by these kinds of events.
    In order to make changes and improve the quality of life in and around our homes we need to address this problem as a group.
    Please respond to this post and let me know if you share the same problem.
    Follow the suggestions others made. Move.
    You thought it was cheaper here for nothing?
    We got rats, roaches, dogs, cats, racoons, drunks, drug addicts, larcenists, murderers, gangs , a corrupt PD, oh, and we like to party.

    We are the Borg. Adapt or be assimilated.

    lmfao
  • Subject: Re: Very Very Loud Music from 685 Sterling Place

    mantic wrote: [quote=friebs]Last Saturday June 19th starting at about 7:30PM, we had our introduction to summer out-door parties using PA system.
    The floor in my place was vibrating...
    Typically the very very loud music continues into early morning hours.
    We have had the same problem in previous summers.
    I tried calling 311, was unable to reach an operator. Called the 77th. The music did not stop.
    I am trying to reach out to as many people as possible who are affected by these kinds of events.
    In order to make changes and improve the quality of life in and around our homes we need to address this problem as a group.
    Please respond to this post and let me know if you share the same problem.
    Follow the suggestions others made. Move.
    You thought it was cheaper here for nothing?
    We got rats, roaches, dogs, cats, racoons, drunks, drug addicts, larcenists, murderers, gangs , a corrupt PD, oh, and we like to party.

    We are the Borg. Adapt or be assimilated.

    lmfaoLMFAO!!!
  • "Others" did not make the suggestion to move. Only Bklynnyc1 did and he signed up only to comment on the post, or to hide his usual identity and not have his post part of a history of comments. 1 angry anon. person.

    Crown heights is a beautiful neighborhood and has many lovely perople both new and old that look forward to the improvement of quality of life, and enjoy the diversity that we have here.

    "Adapt or be assimilated"? I think a better analogy would be to remember the dinosaurs that became extinct because they could not adapt to change. I've seen huge changes in just 6 years.
  • ^^^ the American car industry is providing a modern example.

    .....clearly evolution, when it occurs, takes a really long time.

    But, yup, the neighborhood is slowly changing for the better.
  • outdoor parties using a pa system are normal for crown heights. didn't u know that before moving there? why are you imposing your values and background on people who have lived there for a long time.

    don't try and change others' behavior....move!
    love it!

    i bet the complainer just moved to the neighborhood and the partier is a LONGTIME RESIDENT.
  • Please note that Friebs is also a first fime poster as is Bklynnyc1. Perhaps someone is having a conversation with themselves.
  • tsarina wrote: Please note that Friebs is also a first fime poster as is Bklynnyc1. Perhaps someone is having a conversation with themselves.
    That's the only time I agree with anyone 100%.
  • Sometime its the only way to have an intelligent conversation.
  • The only time it doesn't work is when there is very, very loud music and I can't hear myself talk. ....then I don't know what I am saying.
  • tsarina wrote: "Others" did not make the suggestion to move. Only Bklynnyc1 did and he signed up only to comment on the post, or to hide his usual identity and not have his post part of a history of comments. 1 angry anon. person.

    Crown heights is a beautiful neighborhood and has many lovely perople both new and old that look forward to the improvement of quality of life, and enjoy the diversity that we have here.

    "Adapt or be assimilated"? I think a better analogy would be to remember the dinosaurs that became extinct because they could not adapt to change. I've seen huge changes in just 6 years.
    Ok, then, I'll say it. Too hot in the kitchen, get out.
    Dinosaur extinction follows a couple of theories none of which could they have adapted for.

    If people want to move in the hood. I welcome them. When they try to change the "quality of life " issues, it usually is their life and visions of idunnowhathefcuk, I shake my damn head and show them the door.

    What kind of glasses do you look through when you see these? Shades, Rose, Reading or Bifocals....

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  • Call 911. Don't call 311- that's for ongoing noise, like construction and stuff you can't really do anything about.

    911. Always.
  • Like the Borg thought...or..sweet revenge. How about if all of the people who have loud parties and didn't give a hoot about anyone else eventually become sober!

    That way, their own partying stops but...they are surrounded by noisy, uncaring, loud, partying neighbors. It may be a waiting game, but patience is devine. This is only my experience, strength and hope...and I am passing it on. :twisted:
  • Well yes its too hot in my kitchens, but thats just the weather. And that will change.
    Change is ongoing and constant. When the people who want to play their music real loud moved in, they changed the neighborhood., now other people are moving in and yeah the place is changing. what makes you think that since you changed the neighborhood the change stops?

    Chelsea, the West Village, Carroll Gardens, Prospect Lefferts Gardens, were all places that I lived in and was priced out of. Like it or not it is a natural cycle that you are powerless to stop. And its more Borg than you.
    O yeah nice song, and I was wearing my bifocals so I could see into the distance and read also . thank you for asking.
  • Subject: Re: didn't u know about block parties before u moved there?

    bklynnyc1 wrote: outdoor parties using a pa system are normal for crown heights. didn't u know that before moving there? why are you imposing your values and background on people who have lived there for a long time.

    don't try and change others' behavior....move!
    A loud party every now and then is one thing, but if this is going on constantly, until all hours of the morning, it's unacceptable and I don't care who you are. Everyone wants respect but no one wants to give it.

    (BTW- Slavery was largely normal at one point in U.S. history. Does that mean it should have gone on, unchecked, as a natural and accepted part of life just because it fit perfectly into the value system of a certain segment of society? Hell's no!!!)

    In order to live together, we each have to respect boundaries. Which means, we all, on every side, will have to be a bit more flexible. All of this puffing up, telling people to move is pointless. It just sounds like an angry attempt at a power play. Defending broken laws (including noise ordinances) and suggesting that people move out of their own homes is not a true representation of power and it's not a full and accurate representation of the feelings of all of the longtime residents.




  • Damn... slavery... you do know that slavery never ended. The rules just changed us all into indentured servants to credit and taxes. That's prolly why one was priced out and has to come to the bottoms to try and make the sun shine.

    Next time you see me smile and I'll smile back.
  • Don't call 911 for Noise complaints they only get routed to 311 and defenitely do not embelish to get a faster Police response, that is not only dangerous it is also illegal.
  • Me dancin' the roomba as fast as I can. :wink:
  • that Roomba video cracks me up every time. I have a Roomba and while my kittehs have gotten used to it, neither of them wants to ride it.

    <---exiting thread as I have nothing to add to the main topic (except that nobody should have to put up with shit like that)
  • Subject: Noise Issues

    Noise issues are definately a problem in the 77th Precinct. We now have a new Precinct Captain who is just getting his feet wet. The previous CO seemingly did not handle noise issues at all. We all have the Constitutional right to PEACEFUL enjoyment of our properties. This does not mean we have the right to impose on others. This is why standards are set at the local level. The Noise Code in the city is great on the commercial side. Enforcement is a joke on the residential side and then the DEP is understaffed on the commercial side. There are 6 inspectors for Brooklyn and Staten Island combined! We DO need to ORGANIZE to have the new CO hear us and be accountable in dealing with noise issues. Our block has been struggling with a music studio putting out low frequency vibrations since 2006! So I have some experience in the matter. The City has no recording equipment! Police officers are not trained properly in how to give out tickets. There are a whole range of issues I am willing to share wth anyone if you contact me. I am willing to offer my house as a place to meet if you would like.

    For those interested in the unhealthy effects of noise go to www.noiseoff.org. This website is a great resource for people who want to get more involved and learn about the consequences of continued exposure to noise -- in particular low frequency vibrations.

    Please contact me to discuss more offline. Peace to all.
  • mantic wrote:

    Damn... slavery... you do know that slavery never ended. The rules just changed us all into indentured servants to credit and taxes. That's prolly why one was priced out and has to come to the bottoms to try and make the sun shine.

    Yep, I went all the way to slavery... Although I don't totally agree with your sentiment. I do hold fast to the belief that it was slavery, prolonged disenfranchisement, both physical and mental abuse, and its resultant affect on Black and browned skinned peoples in the U.S. that has caused the un-level playing field that has led us to a situation wherein many people in our country and very own community continue to suffer from poverty and other societal ills. They lack money and power and are often pushed around or simply get ignored. So yes, for some people, times are still more than hard - but nowhere near as hard as for those who experienced actual factual slavery.

    Indentured to credit and taxes...Nope. Only in as much as we go beyond our means to purchase crap that we really don't need just so we can feel like we're being accepted by those who find us most unacceptable. And I'm sorry, but I like smooth roads, public education - when it works, and clean water running into my home - not to mention green space, pay as you wish at museums, and transit fares that are still below $3.00 per trip. Taxes have their place.

    With that being said - loud parties lasting until who knows when are not a right. Again, people want respect, but they don't think they should have to give it. It's called common courtesy. Blow out your eardrums if you want, but leave mine alone.
  • Hey Friebs,
    I live on your block, on the Park Pl. side and have heard loud music coming from that building and from the salon at 733 Franklin, and sometimes from my neighbors. I approach people and ask them to turn it down when I know who they are, but in this neighborhood, people act like it's their god given right to blast music. Anyway, if you are interested in joining up to contact our councilwoman and congresswoman about this problem, you can message me. It's definitely something that needs to be changed about this neighborhood.
  • Speaking of which, is anyone else hearing the realllly loud music coming from JS Studio, 733 Franklin right now? It is ridiculously loud.
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