ft greene hate crime

ltjbukem · July 2006

where: lafayette/adelphi
what: israeli flag, splattered red paint, note written on paper

blog: www.onehansonplace.com

escap · July 2006

good reporting.

i guess if there's an upside it certainly makes the yuppies vs. locals tension seem minor in comparison....

armchair_warrior · July 2006

its simple vandalism. calling it a hate crime is a little too far. some groups have more political power and more press time than other groups.

queencallipygos · July 2006

armchair_warrior wrote: its simple vandalism. calling it a hate crime is a little too far. some groups have more political power and more press time than other groups.

If it were simple vandalism, wouldn't other buildings have been affected?

ben · July 2006

I saw this on the news last night, Fox I think.

They said the note said something to the effect that the red paint represents the blood of those that are being killed in Lebanon. This was apparently in response to the person flying the Israeli flag out of their window.

So this is political rather than a hate crime. There's a war going on, someone flew the flag of one side, thus showing their support for that side. Someone else tried to raise the point that innocent people are being killed.

Is this vandalism? Yes. Is it a hate crime? No.

anonymous · July 2006

escap wrote: good reporting.

i guess if there's an upside it certainly makes the yuppies vs. locals tension seem minor in comparison....

Does that mean that there are no yuppie locals? Check out Fort Greene Park, the Saturday Farmers market, Madiba and the Red Bamboo.....they are abundant.

ltjbukem · July 2006

he didn't probably mean yuppies vs local but more like yuppie gentrifiers (myself) vs local long-timers...

re: hate crime or vandalism. i agree, it's vandalism. not a hate crime, but of course bloomberg is making out to be as such as is the press. sells more papers, gets more advertising.

plus the fact that a guy with an israel flag got vandalised makes it that much more newsworthy..if it was a lebanese flagbearer's house who got vandalised, this stuff would've been swept under the carpet.

no news here, folks...keep on walking...or is it?????

escap · July 2006

Guestt wrote: [quote=escap]good reporting.

i guess if there's an upside it certainly makes the yuppies vs. locals tension seem minor in comparison....

Does that mean that there are no yuppie locals? Check out Fort Greene Park, the Saturday Farmers market, Madiba and the Red Bamboo.....they are abundant.

No, no, I agree with you by all means!! In fact, I am the quintessential yuppie local. Born and raised in Fort Greene, and about as yuppie as they come. I was just generalizing for the sake of humor.

However, as a lifelong resident of the hood, I can tell you that the places you just mentioned IN NO WAY have any kind of history in the area, and are distinctly the fruit of gentrification. Not that I'm complaining at all--I love Madiba--but let's get our facts straight.

queencallipygos · July 2006

ltjbukem wrote: plus the fact that a guy with an israel flag got vandalised makes it that much more newsworthy..if it was a lebanese flagbearer's house who got vandalised, this stuff would've been swept under the carpet.

What's your basis for this claim? If the city was free to discuss and condemn anti-Arab violence in the weeks after 9/11, when it had all the more reason to "sweep things under the carpet," why do you think that the city or the press would do such a thing now?

anonymous · July 2006

However, as a lifelong resident of the hood, I can tell you that the places you just mentioned IN NO WAY have any kind of history in the area, and are distinctly the fruit of gentrification. Not that I'm complaining at all--I love Madiba--but let's get our facts straight.

The only fact (which was indeed "straight" as you like to say) I highlighted was that there are plenty of yuppie locals, and although your comments were in jest, there are many who would like to overlook the neighborhood's monied past and pretend this was solely a hard-scrabble neighborhood.

anonymous · August 2006

queencallipygos wrote: [quote=ltjbukem]plus the fact that a guy with an israel flag got vandalised makes it that much more newsworthy..if it was a lebanese flagbearer's house who got vandalised, this stuff would've been swept under the carpet.

What's your basis for this claim? If the city was free to discuss and condemn anti-Arab violence in the weeks after 9/11, when it had all the more reason to "sweep things under the carpet," why do you think that the city or the press would do such a thing now?

Agreed. It's silliness to think that because it was an Israeli flag that somehow some media conspiracy group showed up to give this more press than it deserved. For people who consider themselves "diverse" in Fort Greene, you sure do buy into some crazy theories.

It was a hate crime. Simple as that.

anonymous · August 2006

of course it is a hate crime. and vandalism. one does not preclude the other.

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