Officials Euthanize Nearly 400 Geese From Prospect Park

Susan Elbin, conservation director at New York City Audubon, was cautiously supportive of the mass euthanizing. “There are ways to manage birds nonlethally,” Ms. Elbin said.

THIS^


“But if you’re trying to manage a population level, sometimes those hard decisions need to be made.”

The wrong decision, at the very least can we agree that 400! was too much for one park. The lake is so beautiful with the bird life. It's such an aggressive wipe out of the species...


So, who's going to be the first to GODWIN this thread? :twisted:

I hear they were gassed with lethal doses of Zyklon B

Ironically, Der Fuhrer was a vegetarian.

Danny Hellman wrote: Ironically, Der Fuhrer was a vegetarian.

I don't see the irony. :twisted:

Here's a newer response from NYC Audubon. See
http://www.nycaudubon.org/home/home/goose2010.shtml

NYC Audubon website wrote: NYC Audubon believes that lethal control should be the last resort after all other methods for managing bird populations have been exhausted. The blanket approach of lethal control will not significantly reduce the risk birds pose to aviation safety. We maintain that City officials should reduce the amount of lush, green lawn space available throughout the city, which attracts geese. Without such measures, new geese will take up residence here and populations will quickly rebound to current levels. The City may also limit growth of the resident geese population through egg-addling or nest destruction.

NYC Audubon also takes issue with the target population size identified by the Department of Agriculture, which calls for reducing the number of Canada geese in the city by 80 percent. This figure is not supported by sound scientific research. The recent cull at Prospect Park included nearly 100 percent of the geese in that area; essentially, this population was “managed” into extinction. NYC Audubon strongly disagrees with that decision.

When one species becomes so abundant that it has a negative impact on the habitat and resources of other native bird species—as may be the case with Canada geese—NYC Audubon, like most Audubon chapters, supports population management. But the option of lethal control should be a last resort, undertaken only when bird populations threaten the health, safety, and welfare of other wildlife and humans, and only after a rigorous environmental impact assessment has been done and full disclosure has been made to local citizens and other stakeholders.

What You Can Do to Help

If you share NYC Audubon’s opinion that the City should develop a more scientifically sound plan for managing Canada geese, please make your voice heard! You can help us reach our goal of having 1,000 people register formal complaints with the City. All you have to do is call 311 (or 212-NEW-YORK from outside of NYC) and register a complaint. There are several important things to remember when phoning 311 with your complaint:

* When registering a complaint, its important to say that you would like to "register an opinion with the Mayor." 311 may encourage you to submit the complaint through an email address or via mail, but it is possible to register an opinion through 311, and NYC Audubon has confirmed this several times with 311 supervisors. The more people who phone to register a complaint, the more familiar 311 operators will likely become handling this type of complaint.
* It's possible that 311 operators will attempt to categorize your complaint. The appropriate category for this type of issue is "Environment."
* It's possible that 311 operators will ask you about the date and time of the incident. Its ok to say you're not exactly sure, and to ask that they use today's date and time for their form.
* Please e-mail us your tracking number so we can follow up on it later. Emails can be sent to [email protected]
* If you encounter any challenges registering your complaint, please phone Jeff Friedrich at 212-691-7483

The real shame here is the amount of potential foie gras totally wasted...

Carnie, is there a good restaurant in NYC to eat geese?

My wife is a vegetarian, but she gives me permission to 'dis zealots.

That place where the 12 of us ate last time in Danny's honor was really yummy.

Don't worry Booklaw, is was totally public on the "lounge board" you just missed the post about a year ago...
You are always invited!

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* 623 11th Ave, New York NY10036
* (At 46th St)

Big Pig Gig Menu

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Whole Pork Butt approximately 8 pounds feeds up to 6 people and reserves seating for 6 includes creamy cole slaw, texas toast, choice of two fixin's and seasonal fruit 150.00

Full 8 Bone American Rack Of Lamb feeds up to 2 people and reserves seating for 2 includes creamy cole slaw texas toast, choice of two fixin's and seasonal fruit advance notice required 1 day 95.00

Notice: $35 Per Person, Added To Bill If More Than Specified Number Of People Per Reservation For Specific Order
Catering Menu
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Kansas City Sweet & Sticky Pork Ribs
Memphis Dry Rub Pork Ribs
Golden Spicy Corn Bread
Choice Of Three Fixins
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Kansas City Sweet & Sticky Pork Ribs
Memphis Dry Rub Pork Ribs
Oklahoma Jumbo Beef Rib
Tennessee Whiskey Beer Can Style Chicken
Texas Chopped Beef Brisket
Carolina Pulled Pork
Golden Spicy Corn Bread
Choice Of Three Fixins
Fixins
Baked Beans with burnt ends
Rustic Creamy Corn with new york state cheddar
Creamed Spinach
Mashed Potatoes with red eye gravy
Cajun Dirty Rice And Beans
Sweet Potatoes with brown sugar
Bourbon Peaches
Macaroni And Cheese
Collard Greens
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whynot_31 wrote:
That place where the 12 of us ate last time in Danny's honor was really yummy.

http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2010/05/06/2010-05-06_neanderthal_genes_live_on_in_modern_humans.html

Booklaw, you didn't miss the last Danny Hellman tribute dinner. That was the night we all went to Churrascaria Plataforma, and you were definitely there!

This time, I think we should go to Resto. With a decent number of us, we can get a large format feast (check under the "Group Dining" subheading on the website), with goose as the guest of honor. We did a whole suckling pig (many dishes made with different parts of the pig) for my birthday a year or two ago and it was awesome! I think we should make the reservation in Danny Hellman's name.

Thank you Danny, for bringing us all together around tasty meat! And if you want, I can track down a dentist who can remove your canine teeth for you.

Geese =/= people.

One human life is worth an infinite number of geese.

inpixels wrote: [quote=booklaw]The real shame here is the amount of potential foie gras totally wasted...

Nice. TED talks are always great.

Sounds like they should have waited until Fall to harvest these geese.

Danny Hellman wrote: [quote=Carnivore]Geese =/= people.

One human life is worth an infinite number of geese.

Put aside the fact that, by your math, you'd exterminate the worldwide goose population before you'd wave bye bye to a Terri Schiavo or Osama bin Laden.


I actually find myself agreeing with Danny Hellman. I'd be ok sacrificing a few lives if the alternative was never eating goose again

OH! I hadn't made the Churrascaria / Danny Hellman connection... I thought it was just another great night out.

WhyNot, take another look at Mougar's post. I think it's a bit more sly than is at first apparent.