The Legrand Family
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Did u really have bodies in the basement and yard though or are the cases on those pending
Cause I mean every family has its skeletons but u guys really actually have human skeletons on the premises... that's a big deal brougham -
clever... :roll:
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Cool The Kid wrote: Did u really have bodies in the basement and yard though or are the cases on those pending
I am actually curious about that as well. Were there bodies in the basement?
Did not know about any of this until this thread got revived. -
Well, backyard isn't the same as basement, but same diff basically.
I have no idea why the family comes around here begging us to look the other way just cos future generations haven't been so homicidal. If my dad was charles manson I'd sure as hell change my name and put as much distance between myself & him as possible rather than go indignantly tell everyone about all the good the Manson family has done. A lot of us may be transplants but that doesn't change the fact that we're uncomfortable with a family/church in the neighborhood that not only refuses to acknowledge the horror of, uh, killing a lot of innocent people for no real reason, but then attempts to excuse itself because "we're all the same in eyes of God" or whatever other BS they've come up with.
If God is gonna judge you and you're at peace with that, stop telling the rest of us that yr serial-killin grampa ain't no biggie. it is. -
oh come on. LeGrand didn't say his grandfather was a great guy, he said that didn't mean it was okay to say that his whole family was terrible.
legrand wrote: We are not ALL criminals as most of you seem to think
do none of you have people in your family you wish you didn't have to claim? and don't start on yeah-but-ours-aren't-that-bad. you know what i mean. is this the nineteenth century, that you should be acting like you believe in "bad blood"? this thread has a really nasty quality to it that would piss me off, too.
maybe changing his name would have made for an easier path, but it's hardly a required reconciliation from someone who didn't do anything wrong. -
^seriously. Most people don't even know I have a sister, with good reason. Doesn't mean that I am anything like her
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Links posted above. This was a serial killer case on the level of a Manson Family, or a John Wayne Gacy. Only reason it isn't infamous is that it was mostly undocumented people who were slaughtered.
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that doesn't have anything to do with what i said.
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Holla peno wrote: Links posted above. This was a serial killer case on the level of a Manson Family, or a John Wayne Gacy. Only reason it isn't infamous is that it was mostly undocumented people who were slaughtered.
what exactly do you propose that they do? wear a sign and prostrate themselves begging for forgiveness from the entire community for something that a distant relative did a long time ago? Seriously. I am asking. What do you expect them to do? Let's say this was YOUR relative. What would YOU do?I am asking. Really. -
You guys are fixating on an incident that happened many years ago, many are unaware of the countless other Crimes and Criminal activity that still emerges from that home every day.
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Did Holla Penos post disappear? I remember reading something yesterday and now it's gone.
KWAC, I don't know enough about the area to know anything about the family and/or what may or may not be going on now. Care to elaborate? -
King without a crown wrote: Bad news!!! There has been countless incidents with this Family and the NYPD in the past few years. Everything ranging from Murder, Rape to Arson. The makeshift Church on the first floor is used to skirt Tax Laws and is only used as a hangout.
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^sorry, my reading comprehension skills are not at their best this early :-)
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Subject: Torture,Murder,sexual Misconduct, Child ABUSE Legrand Family
I actually went to school with the Legrand children.One case in point:
One of my female classmates who was a Legrand was terrified when she approached me with startling news about abuse from her father who beat her and her sisters with an ironing cord and let them sleep in CAGES in the basement in the house. She was afraid of being seen by her brothers talking to me or anyone on a one to one level because she'd get beaten and torture. She admitted that her father favored the boys rather than the girls. Yes they did ask for money on trains , subways and the children were dirty and rarely had food to eat. The boys appeared to be going along with this family routine also because they were favored.. The remaining family appears to be brainwashed to some degree and they are not to be dealt with. Why would they stay in that neighborhood when people know what they are about? Sexual misconduct and it appears to be of a type of cult. The women wear black and continually ask for money for their'church'. Stay away from these People. If you grew up in that family would you continue to stay in the same environment? The Bible clearly states that there will be wolves in sheeps clothing. Stay AWAY from them.Period. -
Flexichick wrote: [quote=Holla peno]Links posted above. This was a serial killer case on the level of a Manson Family, or a John Wayne Gacy. Only reason it isn't infamous is that it was mostly undocumented people who were slaughtered.
what exactly do you propose that they do? wear a sign and prostrate themselves begging for forgiveness from the entire community for something that a distant relative did a long time ago? Seriously. I am asking. What do you expect them to do? Let's say this was YOUR relative. What would YOU do?I am asking. Really.
Are you SERIOUS? If I grew up in those conditions I would have LEFT that family as far away from ALL of them, it's clear that there are brainwashed to some degree . -
LadyofGOD wrote: The women wear black and continually ask for money for their'church'.
Back in the news, with a headline and narrative style that only the Post could conjure up:
Lying nun begs on behalf of unholy rape clan
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/twisted_sister_act_by_lying_nun_2pBEDN8HMJLjaJZoJduDPOFor a decade, Sister Milindia has tugged on heartstrings in Little Italy. Wearing a cross, veil and nun's black habit, she approaches strangers and asks for donations, saying she's an Episcopal sister raising money for an orphanage and the homeless.
..."Sister Milindia" is not a sister. The Episcopal Church has never heard of her; she's been busted at least once, in 1997, for misrepresenting herself as a nun in The Bronx; and the orphanage for which she claims to raise money doesn't exist.
[two days later, at her home]
Her real name is Mindy LeGrand, 54, and she's connected to a "church" in Crown Heights founded in the 1970s by a killer rapist with a harem of a dozen phony nuns. The church is now led by the founder's son, who is also a convicted rapist.
The outfit has no Episcopal or other church affiliation, is not a registered charity and has no foster- or day-care license of any kind.A boy who answered the door there two days later said she had gone to Atlantic City.
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I have never heard of this family. This is all really interesting stuff. Thanks for the info everyone.
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What a filthy pig she is!!!
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At first I didn't realize that this article is three pages long (if you scroll to the bottom of the page, the "page" icons are there). Very interesting stuff. It's bothersome that they are caring for those teenagers unsupervised by a child welfare entity.
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Side note: this is a mod free weekend. So let your true feeling about this subject flow!
Personally: I still think this whole family is a poison upon our society and should be buried in their own basement like they did to their victims -
http://gawker.com/5596119/fake-nun-panhandles-for-notorious-legrand-rape-clan
they are trying to defend themselves apparently. -
This is interesting....
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sunday-mirror/2009/02/08/killer-of-2-young-girls-in-the-u-s-is-freed-sent-here-115875-21105927/
scum, really. And living on the dole. -
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This comment made me laugh, "Mel Gibson will be calling them on Monday. He'd like to subscribe to their newsletter. "
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Mamacita wrote: This comment made me laugh, "Mel Gibson will be calling them on Monday. He'd like to subscribe to their newsletter. "
hahahaha -
Back to Brooklyn house of evil
Bizarre sister act writes new chapter in horror story of rape, cages and murder
By BRAD HAMILTON
Last Updated: 8:44 AM, August 1, 2010
Posted: 2:56 AM, August 1, 2010
Comments: 1 | More Print
The girl met her killer at Adventur ers Inn, a second- rate amusement park in College Point, Queens.
Elizabeth Brown, 15, was at the park with friends one summer night in 1974 when he rolled up in his chauffeur-driven, cream-colored Cadillac -- with its own bar and TV -- and stepped out. He would have been hard to resist: a dapper preacher in a silk suit with movie-star looks, wealth and charm.
But this "pastor," Devernon "Doc" LeGrand, 50, had no intention of saving her soul. His slick approach was intended to snare the girl into his commune in Brooklyn, where he plied teens with drugs and booze, seduced them and forced them to panhandle in nun garb.
Brigitte Stelzer
DIRTY SHAME: Charismatic preacher Devernon LeGrand (pictured) lured vulnerable youngsters like Elizabeth Brown, 15, into his hellish clan where some followers were murdered and the bodies of two were burned in a bathtub.
Brown became LeGrand's concubine and beggar, hitting up subway riders by day and having sex with him and dropping angel dust by night.
"She had a good heart but was very angry, very belligerent," said Brown's sister Cathy. "Our father was sick with cancer and dying. She was looking for stability. A kid like that attracts dirtbags like magnets."
Thirty-six years later, authorities assumed LeGrand's cult, which eventually devolved into rape and murder and scandalized the city in the 1970s, was long gone. But last week they opened a new probe into the remnants of his clan after The Post found Mindy LeGrand, his daughter-in-law, pulling the same old sister act in Little Italy.
Investigators have returned to the dark secrets of 222 Brooklyn Ave., a Crown Heights row house where for two decades LeGrand headed one of the most notorious crime families in city history.
LeGRAND fathered 46 children, many of whom lived in tiny bedrooms upstairs in the four-story headquarters where Devernon preached on the first floor. For years, kids were kept in cages, starved and beaten -- until cops busted LeGrand for child-abuse in 1965.
"They had these tiny little rooms. The kids would stay with their mothers or just run around everywhere," said Eugene Jarkow, who investigated LeGrand for the Brooklyn District Attorney's Office. "The street-level floor is where they had the church. There was a big meat freezer in the basement, supposedly where he'd put the bodies, but there was no proof of that."
Every morning, LeGrand's phony nuns would pile into his Cadillac and he would drop them off at locations across the city. One fake sister, Vivian Roye, "was olive-skinned and passed as Italian -- she did very well on Mulberry Street," recalled former Brooklyn prosecutor Harold Rosenbaum.
The church took in an estimated $250,000 a year, enough to buy the Crown Heights building and a 58-acre farm in Sullivan County, which LeGrand paid for with rolls of coins.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/back_to_klyn_house_of_evil_In7mSNHxPJBBts6cP3lFZP#ixzz0vMHIItO1 -
holy crap.
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I wish we could separate the fact from fiction. However, the fact that the family members refer to themselves as 'prophets' and are OK with having shrines and idols built in their images suggests, at the most basic levels, that the tenets of their "church" are not in line with the tenets of Christianity. That alone is enough to raise a red flag
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back in the news.
(Sorry, someone left the Post for me ....I read it)
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/ag_hell_bent_on_closing_lying_nun_z4AVTL6kWGSzecYPleHM0K -
Let's just do away with all churches and the like.
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