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Ambulance hits pedistrian in crosswalk on 7th Ave. — Brooklynian

Ambulance hits pedistrian in crosswalk on 7th Ave.

drunken revival
edited November -1 in Park Slope
Anyone hear about this?


Happened this Saturday around 2-3. I think I had the best view of any eyewitness as I was riding my bike South on 7th just before crossing 9th Street.

A woman was crossing 7th headed toward Smiling when an ambulance (making a left turn onto 7th) hits her without ever seeing her.

I feel bad for the driver. But he cut the corner too short and her while she was in the crosswalk, she had the walk sign, AND he was in the wrong lane (taking a sharp left and cutting off the right lane on 7th ave.) You'd fail a driving test for a move like that.

About the Siren... again, I saw the whole thing... about 15 feet away. The siren - basically, the driver turned the siren on right as he approached the intersection driving up 9th Street.... he speed up while simoutaneously taking the left turn and hitting the woman - the siren was on for about 1 - 2 seconds at the most.

The other majorly fucked up thing, and the reason I'm writing this is that the ambulance that hit the walker did have someone in back.... which I only noticed 20 MINUTES LATER when they finally took her out and put her in another car (the ambulance that was in the accident stayed at the site)...

The question is: if the person in the ambulance was so critical, then why did they wait at least 20 min to get her anywhere.... why use the siren and speed on a Saturday afternoon in Park Slope? Also, why did the cops not seem to care? I watched one cop jot down a few words from an old lady... but that was about it... Was there even a report done?

The driver was definitely negligent...

Comments

  • How badly hurt was the woman, could you tell?

    You should absolutely call the cops and tell them what you saw.
  • Hard to say. An ambulance hit her squarely traveling 15 - 20mph. I'd say bunch of broken ribs, a leg, arm, internal bleeding. She seemed stable at the scene and they certainly took their sweet time to get her to the hospital.

    It was pretty serious, probably not deadly.
  • I know I don't have the best reputation on this board...

    While that affects me deeply, I'm kinda surprised that nobody has commented here....

    If I may paraphrase my original post:
    1. Ambulance driver smokes a pedestrian in the crosswalk
    2. Ambulance was then shown to have no reason for using siren or speeding
    3. Cops do a poor job of getting eye witness reports
    4. Cops on scene don't seem concerned that law was broken.

    Actually, let's just go back to posting about the jizz covered pizza at FORNINO.
  • I walked by just after it happened. The woman was lying on the street for at least thirty minutes. I could not understand why. Now I realize that the original ambulance was occupied but the second one did not arrive for 20 minutes.
    Absolutely horrible and unacceptable.
  • No - that's wrong.

    The second ambulance arrived in about 5 minutes... also, a fire department transport vehicle arrived 10 minutes later. Of course, it had to drive 60 mph up 9th street IN THE WRONG LANE (seriously) for absolutely no reason (the lady just got out and stood around.
  • "3. Cops do a poor job of getting eye witness reports "

    I'm expecting that you volunteered what you knew on the scene...did that *not* happen?
  • pitu,

    I watched as a cop took down two reports from people that kinda thought they saw something... he wrote down like a half line of scribbles.

    I politely volunteered that I saw the whole thing, start to finish, from about 15 ft away..... he said he had what he needed.

    So, pitu, that's what /not/ *not* happened... I mean, yes,... or to answer your question, No. I think.

    Good question though.
  • I've been reading this forum for over a year since I moved to Brooklyn, but this post inspired me to register and post.

    I didn't see this, but last week I saw at least 8 cars run the red light on Eastern Parkway next to the library. I was almost hit once. An older lady with a cane was almost hit. Some pre-school aged kids with their parents on their way to the library were almost hit. What really made me mad was when I saw a police car and an ambulance run the light. Neither had lights or sirens on. Neither seemed to be in a hurry to get anywhere. It's just crazy. I'm about ready to start writing down the info about emergency vehicles who run lights for no good reason. No clue who to call about it though. Not sure it would even do any good if I reported it to anyone.

    I hope the woman on 7th is ok!
  • This type of thing happens often (drivers throwing on the siren at the last second before they do something very risky)

    I almost had an ambulance plow into my car while I was on the approach to 4th avenue.

    He obviously only wanted to beat the light.

    I have no idea who you report these sorts of incidents to and it is
    disgusting that immediate responses seem to come at the WRONG times!
  • coincidentally, I had a client this weekend who was hit by a police van which was illegally making a left turn in soho in a non-emergency situation. The radio was blasting. She was out of work for 8 weeks and is still in PT 7 months later with various back problems. Shes obviously going after the police dept for her injuries and she mentioned that she was the 4th person hit by manhattan pd in that month...and it was the 13th of the month.

    So apparently these kinds of things happen fairly often
  • I'm not for frivolous lawsuits, but that's not frivolous. Maybe getting the fuck sued out of them a few times (the ambulance firm, the emergency response agency AND the individual driver) will make them take some sort of corrective action both against individuals and agency-wide.

    I have almost been hit by Access-a-Ride more times than I can count - especially when I was walking more slowly with crutches/a cane.

    DR, I hope that if that woman needs witnesses, somehow she finds her way back to you so you can report what happened.
  • I'm here to help....

    Ok, let's go back to talking about pizza and jizz, orange cats and armchairs grammar.
  • Drunken Revival wrote: I'm here to help....

    Ok, let's go back to talking about pizza and jizz, orange cats and armchairs grammar.
    if you don't want to talk about pizza and jizz

    http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/05/17/eyes-on-the-street-park-slope-pedestrian-struck-by-ambulance/
  • I
    know I don't have the best reputation on this board...

    While that affects me deeply, I'm kinda surprised that nobody has commented here....
    Exactly right...I normally ignore your posts because they make you sound like a 12 year old and I don't take anything you say seriously. But...I was surprised at this post....and sorry you had to witness that. But I think the reason you didn't get as many comments as you thought you would is because of your normal posts.
  • I normally ignore your post as well peanutz.... they make you sound like suck.
  • Was the ambulance an FDNY (city owned and operated) one or run by a hospital or private entity? That will make a difference in the response/and response time.
  • Subject: Wrong

    homeowner wrote: Was the ambulance an FDNY (city owned and operated) one or run by a hospital or private entity? That will make a difference in the response/and response time.
    You posted that comment like you have inside knowledge about how the EMS system works. It may seem like FDNY ambulances have better or worse response times only because 60% of the 911-responding ambulances in the City say FDNY on them. However, the other 40% of 911-ambulances in NYC that operate under the Fire Department (i.e. New York-Presbyterian {which also includes Methodist Hospital, Community Hospital of Brooklyn and Westchester Square in the Bronx}, Lenox Hill, St. Luke's-Roosevelt, Brookdale, Maimonides, Long Island College Hospital, etc.) are dispatched the same way as the FDNY ones are: by GPS.
    So let's use this as an example. A pedestrian struck on 7 Av/9 St in Brooklyn. It is extremely busy in Brooklyn and the nearest ambulance according to the GPS is an FDNY ambulance responding from Flatbush Av/Atlantic Av. The ambulance gets assigned the call and begins a response. They are fighting through traffic on Flatbush Avenue and five minutes into the response, they are driving up Flatbush and a car accident occurs right in front of them. They are now cancelled from that pedestrian struck call and assigned to this one on, let's say, Flatbush/6 Av. Now, let's say the next unit to come up as "closest suggested unit" in the Fire Department's GPS for that original pedestrian struck call is a Long Island College Hospital Ambulance. Now they weren't the closest unit at first, but the FDNY ambulance got "flagged," as we say, for another call. So you now have a LICH unit coming from a further distance than the FDNY one was. So for this example, we will say the LICH unit is sitting in Red Hook and is dispatched the pedestrian struck call now 7 minutes after the initial 911 call came in. They fight their way across Hamilton Avenue and up 9th Street and it takes them 6 minutes to respond to the call. They arrive on scene let's say 13-14 minutes after the original call came in. Does that mean that the LICH unit takes longer to respond to calls? Of course not. Like I said we are dispatched by GPS both FDNY ambulances and what are called "911-Participating Ambulances" or "Voluntary Hospital" ambulances. This could obviously go either way. You also need to understand there is a priority system. So if a unit gets dispatched to a sprained ankle, this is a very low priority in the EMS system deemed an "Injury." If the unit responding to that call comes up first recommended by the computer's GPS for a higher priority call (let's say an asthma attack or a cardiac arrest), they will be cancelled from the sprained ankle and assigned to the higher priority. I have seen this same process go on five times in a row so that it now takes 40 minutes for an ambulance to respond to the sprained ankle. If it happens to be a LICH unit, does that mean their response time is poor? Of course not. In reality the LICH unit might have a 3 minute response to the job. Hope this explains things and helps clear up the obvious misconception to the fact that FDNY has better or worse response times than the hospital ambulances. In reality FDNY and Hospital ambulances have nearly IDENTICAL response times, even though it may not seem that way to you.
  • EMTNYC, welcome to Brooklynian and thanks for a very informative initial post.
  • jeffrey wrote: EMTNYC, welcome to Brooklynian and thanks for a very informative initial post.
    Thank you, sir!
  • Sort of on a related subject, anyone know how that cyclist that got crunched on PPSW on Monday made out? The ambulance very nearly caused a few more casualties on the way to him...
  • Drano wrote: Sort of on a related subject, anyone know how that cyclist that got crunched on PPSW on Monday made out? The ambulance very nearly caused a few more casualties on the way to him...
    PPSW is a scary place to ride a bike, (as is Ocean Ave on the east side. Lots of traffic, way too narrow. Let's hope the DOT extends the bike lane to circle the entire park.
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