Officials Euthanize Nearly 400 Geese From Prospect Park

whynot_31 wrote: while you are debating the merits of trains, let's get back to talking about dinner.

I thought this thread was about Park Slope moms and strollers that block my way to the bar.

There will be a rally on Thursday August 12th at noon at City Hall in Manhattan to protest the slaughter of the Prospect Park geese and the proposed massacre of 170,000 more in the next year. Please mark the date, and I will post more details as they are available.

And just to get it out of the way, the inevitable: Foie gras, yum! And: they should feed the dead geese to the homeless.

We saw 14 geese on the Prospect Park lake last Saturday. Totally pointless culling.

smw380 wrote: There will be a rally on Thursday August 12th at noon at City Hall in Manhattan to protest the slaughter of the Prospect Park geese and the proposed massacre of 170,000 more in the next year. Please mark the date, and I will post more details as they are available.

And just to get it out of the way, the inevitable: Foie gras, yum! And: they should feed the dead geese to the homeless.

Massacre? Talk about hyperbole! The geese are pests that pose a threat to human life and safety.

It must be a literal holocaust every time you eat a bowl of rice. Think of all those lives extinguished!


P.S. The second attempt to Godwin this.

Wiping out two thirds of a population that has very little impact on air safety seems extreme to me. There are non-lethal ways to control the population. If you're ok with the killing, don't come to the rally. I figured some people here might want to know about it.

Again, 8/12, noon, City Hall.

Carnivore wrote:
Talk about hyperbole! The geese are pests that pose a threat to human life and safety.

Yes, let's talk about hyperbole. This isn't some humans vs. geese death struggle. The geese are being killed because it's convenient.

The geese are threats to human life and safety only because:

A. humans apparently can't design an airplane that can safely share the skies with geese

and

B. humans would rather not take the train.

Danny Hellman wrote: [quote=Carnivore]
Talk about hyperbole! The geese are pests that pose a threat to human life and safety.

Yes, let's talk about hyperbole. This isn't some humans vs. geese death struggle. The geese are being killed because it's convenient.

The geese are threats to human life and safety only because:

A. humans apparently can't design an airplane that can safely share the skies with geese

and

B. humans would rather not take the train.

No, we don't currently have a functional commuter train system in this country. If we had high speed rails like they do in many other parts of the world, many would take them. There are many reasons why we don't have that system here, and it's much more complex than "humans would rather not take the train" which you might realize if you read the article from the Economist that I posted. Even if that dream came true, it would take many years and do nothing to address the threat of the geese to human safety and lives now.

pitu wrote: [quote=smw380]Wiping out two thirds of a population that has very little impact on air safety seems extreme to me. There are non-lethal ways to control the population. If you're ok with the killing, don't come to the rally. I figured some people here might want to know about it.

Again, 8/12, noon, City Hall.

yeah . . . my understanding is that the Prospect Park geese kinda stay put in their cushy Prospect Park home, and the birds that get stuck in planes are migrating from Canada. So, gassing those PP geese didn't do a damn thing to help human air safety - that was the point, right?



This is a good point.

...If this is going to make sense, we have to figure out which ones are truly Canadian.

I'm glad we don't have to worry about the Americanized Canadian Geese.

They would never even think ascending to 2000 feet over the Great Meadow to be hit by one of the planes that seem to be headed every 2 minutes to LaGuardia. Nope, our geese are thankful for all of the Goldfish crackers and bread we give them, and would never betray us. If they did, it would be kinda like an ex military guy bombing a federal building. (um, Timothy McVeigh? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh).

Nope, our geese are loyal patriots. We can trust them. I'm sure they confirmed how the ones that brought down that plane onto the Hudson were transient, migrating geese.

So, back to those damn illegal Canadian Geese.... How should we figure out which ones they are?

accents?
bottles of Molson beer nearby?
love of hockey?
thermal underwear?

The French Canadian geese will be asked different questions, of course.

Once we determine which are the enemy, we will leave the American ones alone.

So far Drano has the best idea, and I think giant rubber bands could be put around the those damn Canadian ones to prevent them from flying. Let's review:

Step 1: Determine their immigration status.

Step 2. Determine their loyalty to the country. (includes research on their background for milita activity)

Step 3: Danny Hellman and I would lure the ones deemed to be dangerous with tasty organic, vegan, (oxymoronic?), treats.

Step 4: Then we'd hire this guy to peacefully slip one of his necklaces over them, one by one. He looks like he'd work for cheap.



You gotta admit, this plan is the best so far.

whynot_31 wrote: If for some reason (?!) the above plan is deemed to be unfeasible, I predict several regular posters (like Mougar, Christina, Carmen, Stacey, Arches, Carnivore and myself) would be willing to take turns using the following device against the remaining geese:

http://hackedgadgets.com/2008/01/16/disintegrator-rubber-band-gun/

I have gotta get me one of those!

Hell yeah!!!
This will also work nicely on those people who pee on buildings, bikers who come out of his lane, etc.
Oh and the Canadian geese are the ones that go "Quack Eh"

Danny Hellman wrote: [quote=whynot_31]

Step 3: Danny Helman and I would lure the ones deemed to be hazardous with organic, vegan, treats.

Leave me out of your "hilarious" judas goose schemes.

I came up with two efficient, non-violent solutions that could be quickly implemented to preserve both geese and humans.

...it is your turn.

You can't just make fun of other's brilliant ideas.

....remember what happens if we leave this to the government "professionals" like Tupper: Needless death of geese, coupled with a denial of responsibility.

Danny Hellman wrote: [quote=whynot_31]

You can't just make fun of other's brilliant ideas.

I think I can, and as soon as I see one, I'll let you know how it works out.

Works for me. I'm sure I can count on you for my big break once I figure this out.

At least one of the two of us is trying. But, I have agree: My solutions so far suck. They would figure out a way to get out of the rubber band restraint, or be set free by animal activists.

Likewise, the rubber band gatling gun might suffer a similar fate.

....gasing them seems to be the only solution our government can achieve.

Danny Hellman wrote: [quote=whynot_31]
....gasing them seems to be the only solution our government can achieve.

They should use the gas that's generated on this message board.

It would keep the geese busy, and unproductive. ....they might become so fat they can't fly.

Whichever way you regard the situation, it is kind of bizarre that they are not also requesting that the planes no longer come in just above the tree line (okay, 2000ft, but still...) all the way 10-15 miles back into Brooklyn if there is such a huge risk demanding immediate action.

Why would whatever solution recommended not include having the planes maintain higher altitudes until they reach final approach proximity in Queens?

Is it really necessary to maintain such low altitudes a full 10 or 15 miles out?

Why not also minimize risk by mandating that aircraft must descend in stages, only reaching the last 3,000 feet or so in the last 5 miles out? (and not wait so long to ascend to at least 10,000 feet on takeoff)

Newport Beach, California (Santa Ana / SNA) airport flight controllers were made to follow a local law a number of years ago that requires planes to maintain high altitude until the last few miles to and from the airport (mainly for noise reasons).

If there really is some apocalyptic risk involved here that demands immediate and bold action, why wouldn't NY local airports be made to follow the same practice?

I often look up and smh that they appear to be on final approach to Long Meadow, not airports way out/over in Queens.

But yeah, if there's also an overpopulation problem that should be dealt with as well.

Orlando Ozio wrote: I'm with the NY Post on this one:

http://bit.ly/aC1TZj

Love the "Body Snatcher" pic.

There will also be a pro-foie gras counter-protest at that time and place, so whatever your politics, please come out on Thursday!