Police Activity at Bodega on Lincoln and Franklin
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http://gothamist.com/map/
Shooting
Franklin Ave
Brooklyn, NY
8/7/2010 4:41 a.m
....that is all I know. No address or intersection is provided, so I predict Gothamist just plopped a badge down on the avenue where it felt like it. -
When I passed by this morning, I saw several upended cups, as though they had been placed there to mark the location of bullets. Then again, I imagine if there had been shots fired that someone would have posted about it.
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I was sparing everyone, I'd rather chat about bike riders
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King without a crown wrote: I was sparing everyone, I'd rather chat about bike riders
there are some really good looking ones out and about this afternoon. -
Maybe MHA can share details of the shooting, he seems to be in the "know"
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MHA knows nothing about this one. I haven't heard anything.
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I don't have the details, but I know that at least one person was shot on Franklin
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He survived? ....or has a sidewalk shrine and candles appeared?
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whynot_31 wrote: there are some really good looking ones out and about this afternoon.
...not that I'd ever notice - I'm married. -
Seems there was a shooting/stabbing.
http://spotcrime.com/crime-report/11815827/shooting+on+lincoln+pl.+and+franklin+ave.,+brooklyn,+ny -
Subject: Re: Police Activity at Bodega on Lincoln and Franklin
photogirl wrote: There was police tape up at the bodega on Lincoln and Franklin and Lincoln was blocked off. Not more violence, I hope.
They were giving the owners of the Deli a community service award.. They give it out to the vendor that sells the most illegal smokes per week..the gunsfire is a to say thanks for the award -
So, here is my question: should the local neighborhood do gooders bother with their plea that the area remain under Project Impact?
This most recent shooting shows (surprise?!) that there continues to be a lot of crime. Is Impact makin' a Impact?
Maybe it is time to focus more on raids than bored cops driving around in vans. I envision something like the Nostrand raid, but only with more criminals than politicians. -
Yeah, there was definitely a shooting. My room mate heard the shots and went outside to investigate. He said he saw them wheeling someone into an ambulance.
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Maybe the Community can get more involved and form a neighborhood watch group. Maybe we shouldn't patronize stores that provide safe havens and allow drug dealers to sell drugs in their store. Maybe we should educate youngins on the idiocy of the "No Snitchin" rule in da hood. Maybe neighborhood residents could cooperate and call 911 every time they see these miscreants selling drugs on the corner. Maybe after they call 911, they could cooperate with responding Police Officers rather than being vague and anonymous. Maybe more people should attend the Community meetings held at their local Precinct and see what they can do to help. Ok thats enough for now, its MHA's turn......
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Folks decide which is the more permanent, scarier presence: the police vs the criminal element.
Lots of folks decide they should not bother either element.
The remainder decide "if I'm going to piss someone off, it shouldn't be the criminals"
in thier minds, they have made a thought out, logical choice that protects their well being.
....those out at 4 AM on Franklin are a known entity to all. -
Well, I certainly don't patronize either of those corner stores. I used to buy coffee in one of them before I knew better, and occasionally use the ATM, now, I walk by. There is another directly across the street, and given the dilapidated state, I've never walked in it; It looks like a urinal with a counter. Can't the city step in and just cite building violations? I know that they have done so in the past.
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If they prepare food (breakfast sandwiches, etc) the DOH can apply a lot more regulations than if they just sell beer and toilet paper.
The trick is proving the owner is involved, otherwise only the clerk is arrested.
On nostrand, a lot of the stores remain closed but the initial charges were pretty thin.
The mayor, police comissioner, Ms James and others tried to make it sound as if a few arrests, a handgun, a about a lb of weed justified all of the resources and hoopla.
....hopefully the police will become creative, it would be sad if DOH was the one to have to do something.
The good people need help from the police -
By the way...the 73rd Pct has been an "Impact" precinct for as long as there's been "Impact" and they still can't get the shootings under control. That place is getting shot up.
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ParadeRest wrote: By the way...the 73rd Pct has been an "Impact" precinct for as long as there's been "Impact" and they still can't get the shootings under control. That place is getting shot up.
I'd like to think that their problems are more entrenched than ours (my naïveté is what makes me so appealing). So should we conclude that the police camera towers are simply a nice thing to lean against? ....that the city removes once they get tagged by local graffiti "artists"?
Whynot_31 in bubble letters would be awesome, btw -
Those ridiculous Skywatch towers just move the activity to the next corner.
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ParadeRest wrote: Those ridiculous Skywatch towers just move the activity to the next corner.
I think you are giving Skywatch too much credit. I perceive them as merely providing shade to those dealing. They are a total joke.
We've been part of Project Impact for how many years at this point? At some point we should change tactics. For the mere sake of variety, can we switch to buy and busts? Serve some old warrants?
Surely the criminals, the police and the public are ready to do something different for a while. ....we can always do this again later.
Did we get Cosgrove II?
As the 'hood changes, the locals are slowly changing to folks who will work with the police more. Folks are slowly getting organized, but some creativity wouldn't hurt.... We all know where the businesses are that sell drugs. Neighborhood Watch and cooperating with the police isn't always what is lacking.
...otherwise, folks will just write this off as something that happens at 4 AM and has nothing to do with them, because they are already in bed. -
some kind of boycott on these drug dens is a GREAT idea.
is it legal to print flyers detailing the illegal activity that goes on in these places and post them all over franklin ave? i bet that would get some people's attention. put the flyers right next to the offending stores.
"THIS IS A DRUG DEN"
"THIS BUSINESS SELLS ILLEGAL CIGS; DON'T SUPPORT IT!"
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Its not illegal, however it is unlawful to post signs. Its an Administrative Code violation to post signs. However you may give them out. People need to stand behind and work with their Police to make a difference. Communities that are actively involved in their Community and work with their Police rather than against them often thrive!
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788 Franklin Ave (Northwest corner of Franklin and Lincoln)
Owner: 788 Franklin Realty LLC
1164 53rd Street
Brooklyn, NY 11219
(or
134 Broadway #77
Brooklyn, NY 11211)
801 Franklin Ave (Northeast corner of Franklin and Lincoln (Shorey's Deli))
Owner: Glenisha Brown
180 Midwood Street
Brooklyn, NY 11225
Former Owner (Deceased?):
Linton D. Brown
801 Franklin Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11216
Lessor: A.O.A. Management, LLC
6704 Wooster Ave
Los Angeles, CA 90056
583 Lincoln Place (Former record store w/ ripped awning and broken roll-gate)
Tax block/lot: 1252/29
Current Joint Owners (inheritance):
Bennie L. Beck (has power of attorney over estate)
1046 Halsey Street
Brooklyn, NY
Lorraine Beck
101 Pond Hill Road
Great Neck, NY
Jerome Younger
101 Linden Street, Apt. 4F
Brooklyn, NY
Jeffrey Younger
583 Lincoln Place
Brooklyn, NY
Former Owner: Ferris Malloy (deceased?)
583 Lincoln Place
Brooklyn, NY 11216 -
is it legal to hand out the flyers right in front of the bodegas? or to hand them to people walking into the bodegas?
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There is no legal problem with handing out flyers, unless it poses a health and safety problem--for example, handing them out in the middle of the street. The content of the flyers, however, cannot be defamatory, or the owners of the stores could sue the authors/distributors for defamation. As long as the flyers state the truth, there is no problem. However, I have been thinking about another approach, namely going after the owners of the stores in civil court for nuisance. But, could someone explain to me exactly what the connection is between the violence and the bodegas. What exactly is the conduct of the bodega owners or workers that fosters the violence? Do they have an argument that they too are just victims of drug dealers who have chosen their corners? What proof is there that they are involved in it and what exactly is their involvement?
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More on the Current Tenants of 801 Franklin (aka Shorey's)
From NYC ACRIS:
A.O.A. Management, LLC
6704 Wooster Ave
Los Angeles, CA 90056
From Califonia Secretary of State:
Entity Name:AOA MANAGEMENT, LLC
Entity Number:200718410122
Date Filed:07/03/2007
Status:ACTIVE
Jurisdiction:CALIFORNIA
Entity Address:1875 CENTURY PARK EAST 6TH FL
Entity City, State, Zip:LOS ANGELES CA 90067
Agent for Service of Process:ADAEZENNAYA AGU
Agent Address:6704 WOOSTER AVE
Agent City, State, Zip:LOS ANGELES CA 90056
6704 Wooster is owned by Ukeje H Agu and Bridget N Agu
Check out their Sweet LA digs: http://www.realtor.com/property-detail/6704-Wooster-Ave_Los-Angeles_CA_90056_f3d1dd01
and their zero-asset, zero-income, zero-revenue 501(c)(3) Tax-Exempt "Public Housing Facilities" Charity: http://www.taxexemptworld.com/organization.asp?tn=1264112
and its 2007 IRS Form 990: http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2007/200/242/2007-200242830-03c6f37e-Z.pdf -
photogirl wrote: But, could someone explain to me exactly what the connection is between the violence and the bodegas. What exactly is the conduct of the bodega owners or workers that fosters the violence? Do they have an argument that they too are just victims of drug dealers who have chosen their corners? What proof is there that they are involved in it and what exactly is their involvement?
I'd like to hear more about this too. -
if their were actual PROOF, i'd assume the cops would have busted the places by now. it's just kind of common knowledge.
actually, i do know that they sell illegal cigs b/c my girlfriend buys them.
i have no proof, and neither does anyone on this board. unless someone wants to speak up. -
Does their sale of illegal cigarettes have a connection to the violence? If they were busted for that, or if that was the basis for a civil claim against them, is there any reason to think that this would reduce the violence on these corners. I am asking these questions because legally the owners of these properties do have a responsibility to the neighborhood and could be held liable for fostering an unsafe situation or failing to address one that they know about. But there needs to be a real connection between their conduct and the violence; not just that their location has been chosen by those committing the violence.
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