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Tree Branch Breaker

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  • broken branch dangling from a tree on Classon b/w Sterling and Park
  • mr. met wrote: broken branch dangling from a tree on Classon b/w Sterling and Park
    Freshly broken? There are still a few branches on Sterling that the Parks Dept. missed in the cleanup after his last big rampage.
  • Hey, Mr. Met:

    That branch has been like that for a week-plus, ever since the last rampage. For some reason, my dog like to pee beneath the dead leaves. To each their own.
  • i didn't have a way to determine if it was freshly broken
  • If Steve winds up at Kingsboro, he'll probably be there for a few months. But, yeah, once he's discharged, he'll probably be non-adherent with follow up treatment and soon resume breaking trees. Maybe we'll get lucky and the social workers at Kingsboro will get him an ACT team...
  • big branch down on the sidewalk on prospect b/w classon and grand. don't know how long it's been there, but i hadn't noticed it before.
  • If Steve is freed, maybe by then we would have been able to compile a list of articles and online sites where those who are concerned can be made aware of his actions. We can hand out this information to passersby at train stations in the area, as well as provide it to our council person who could disseminate it to the contituents.

    In the same way we need to keep an eye on sex offenders, we need to keep an eye on this 'tree offender'. We have made more than a good faith effort to protect the tree's as well as Steve's interests. I think it's nigh time we protect our own.

    Tree Avengers, Unite!
  • There is no way he broke the one at 207 Park Place.

    It's about, what...10 or 12 feet up and 6 or 8 inches or so in diameter.

    Had to be a truck.
  • Never underestimate the power of the handicapped.
  • I got a call from the Parks Department stating that Steve is still under 'medical supervision' and that the DA's office has compiled sufficient eyewitness accounts of his path of destruction, and therefore there was no need for mine.
  • That was cool!
  • t minus 2 days til Steve's hearing. Any wagers on the outcome? Think we should remind the various politicians/journalists who have taken an "interest" in this?
  • arches wrote:
    t minus 2 days til Steve's hearing. Any wagers on the outcome?
    Nope.
    I do not have the benefit of his psychiatric evaluation, his history of compliance with MH services, or his criminal background ...all of which will hopefully influence the outcome of his pending case.
    arches wrote: Think we should remind the various politicians/journalists who have taken an "interest" in this?
    Nope.
    In the event that he is released, I believe that we should hope it is with mental health support services, and that the ongoing receipt of said services are a condition of his probation.

    ....the outcome of his case (whether it is sentancing or release) is now securely in the hands of the court system. Our advocacy was able to get the matter to the court system, and now I believe we should leave it alone.

    We should save the "friendships" we have developed with politicians and journalists in case we need it at some future date.

    [I also hope that the court system would be immune from such influence at this point. The whole purpose of the court system is that the neither the "victims" or "those directly related to him" get to decide the accused's fate. The system was designed under the theory that the former would be too brutal, the latter completely soft.]

    I will state though, that if I were a sane individual, I would never break trees again after spending several weeks incarcerated. ...but, as we all agree, the wellness of said individual was never really in question.

    AND

    I will also state that if he is released, I believe it will be with some kind of services.

    However, regardless of the quantity and quality of said services, if he begins to engage in behavior that is illegal, we should again fight to get him the care he needs, and the protection the public deserves.

    Based on the success we had this past round, I hope that future rounds may be easier. Who knows, we might even get some help from the 77th Pct this time. (?!)

    <<<< looks for superman cape. Wishes he really had super powers.

    <<<<has been disappointed in Magic Wand. :shock:

    I'd also argue that the ongoing situation at Lincoln and Franklin is presently far more worthy of our very limited attention span and resources.
  • Hmmmm. He had court today, but it does not show him as being released or sentenced.

    Date:August 18, 2010
    Court:Kings Criminal Court
    Part:APAR1

    Docket Sentence
    No Sentence Information on File.

    I guess this means they have not entered the data yet.

    Our possible outcomes are:
    a. Adjourned and he remains in jail until the next date.
    b. Adjourned and he is released.
    c. Released
    d. Sentenced and begins to serve time.
  • Yeah, i noticed that. It probably means that someone still has to fill out the third carbon copy of some form before handing it to someone else who will record the information by typewritter and then take a picture of the typed form and post it on a website. Or something.
  • I saw a tree branch down on (I think) Underhill today. Hopefully just a coincidence, although it did seem to be the size branch he usually goes after.
  • You can register for a victim notification when hes released on that website
  • King without a crown wrote: You can register for a victim notification when hes released on that website
    I've done that. So I assume there is a delay in data entry, something like Arches describes.

    Arches,
    There may be additional steps:
    8. put the carbon paper in the interoffice envelope.
    9. address the interoffice envelope.
    10. close the interoffice envelope.
    11. put it in outgoing box
    12. mail guy picks up envelope
    13. mail van next goes from Brooklyn Court to fourth floor data entry unit in Jamaica Queens (known to all civil servants as "DEUJQ") once a week on Mondays.
    14. etc.
  • They call your phone and leave a message
  • The feature I signed up for was to use that new fangled technology "email".

    No email came, so (like Arches) I assumed the city was still working out the bugs. I imagined some poor civil servant making the leap from carbon paper to a 20 year old Intel 80286 based computer s/he had just been given.
    ----------------------------------------------------
    To make a short story shorter, I went to this link:

    http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcrim_attorney/Detail?which=case&docketNumber=2010KN056137&courtType=L&countyId=23&docketId=3696096&docketDseq=1&defendantName=Maynard,+Steven&county=KINGS&court=Kings+Criminal+Court&recordType=C&recordNum=19857999#NextAppearance

    Where it is supposed to tell anyone the fate of Mr. Maynard after it makes the user enter characters to prove they are not a robot.

    But, alas, even though I proved I was not a robot, it did not provide me with an update. :(

    ...and here, I started out so hopeful.

    --> Don't worry KWAC, I won't blame you for the state of the criminal justice "system" as long as you don't blame me for the state of the mental health "system". Deal?
  • Here we go- today's POST:
    An accused serial tree mutilator in Brooklyn is too cuckoo to stand trial, officials said yesterday.

    A psychiatric report on Steven Maynard, 36, found he's mentally unfit to defend himself on criminal-mischief charges for his bizarre rampage, officials said yesterday.

    "He's incompetent to help his defense," a prosecutor in the case said.

    The loony lumberjack allegedly went off his meds and used his bare hands to rip branches from trees on Eastern Parkway and in Prospect Park, doing some $200,000 in damage.

    When he was nabbed last month, he told cops that "there are demons in the trees, and I had to cut them down" because the demons had killed someone called "Amy."

    Maynard will be held at an upstate psychiatric facility until he's ready for trial.

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/tree_hater_ruled_nut_case_3BcVOzhzcv3NElE5fZ1b1N#ixzz0x3t5F0Nn
  • Edited by whynot for some degree of sensitivity:
    Whatchuwant wrote: Here we go- today's POST:
    An accused serial tree mutilator in Brooklyn is too mentally ill to stand trial, officials said yesterday.

    A psychiatric report on Steven Maynard, 36, found he's mentally unfit to defend himself on criminal-mischief charges for his bizarre rampage, officials said yesterday.

    "He's incompetent to help his defense," a prosecutor in the case said.

    The severely mentally ill man allegedly went off his meds and used his bare hands to rip branches from trees on Eastern Parkway and in Prospect Park, doing some $200,000 in damage.

    When he was nabbed last month, he told cops that "there are demons in the trees, and I had to cut them down" because the demons had killed someone called "Amy."

    Maynard will be held at an upstate psychiatric facility until he's ready for trial.

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/tree_hater_ruled_nut_case_3BcVOzhzcv3NElE5fZ1b1N#ixzz0x3t5F0Nn
    Dear World,
    In the event I am reincarnated, I want to come back to a world where someone who is too ill to consent does not have to be charged with a crime before we, as a society, can ensure that they get care. Thanks.

    Sincerely,
    Whynot
  • It's a shame that the NY Post can't resist its usual bad puns and alliteration, but good news that this guy is finally being held for treatment.
  • Egads!
    Dude, I sincerely hope you never come back.
  • Uh, WhyNot- be glad you don't live in Jersey:
    Gov. Chris Christie today made it illegal for state laws or rules to identify anyone with a developmental or intellectual disability as "mentally retarded" by signing legislation sought by people who have felt belittled by the term.

    Other offensive terms banned: "mentally retarded," "physically
    handicapped," "feeble-minded," and "physically or mentally defective."
    The law also applies to language involving people with mental illness,
    such as "the insane," the "mentally deficient," and "the mentally ill."
    - from NJ.com
  • Whatchuwant wrote: Uh, WhyNot- be glad you don't live in Jersey:
    Gov. Chris Christie today made it illegal for state laws or rules to identify anyone with a developmental or intellectual disability as "mentally retarded" by signing legislation sought by people who have felt belittled by the term.

    Other offensive terms banned: "mentally retarded," "physically
    handicapped," "feeble-minded," and "physically or mentally defective."
    The law also applies to language involving people with mental illness,
    such as "the insane," the "mentally deficient," and "the mentally ill."
    - from NJ.com
    One can never find a good term to refer to a person's mental illness, but there are lots of bad ones.

    I merely strive to be "less offensive".

    Striving to be Politically Correct is an unattainable and even questionable goal
    ....but I can do better than the Post.

    (who can't?)
  • The Post was honest (I can't believe I'm saying this, believe me). As Bob Marley said, "The truth is an offense, but not a sin." If we all live our lives tucking our tails in, then no truth would ever be spoken.

    Political correctness is hypocrisy that panders to POWER, uttered by sycophants who are constantly trying to be liked.

    Steve is a NUTJOB and he's in the LOONEY-BIN. There, I said it. Let's hope he can work through the tree-sitting demons, and find his Amy; but if not, let's ensure that our trees live. Case closed.
  • I gotta say, MHA, I am a little disappointed in you! Mental illness is an illness like any other. Would you describe an elderly paranoid relative of yours with Alzheimers as a "Nutjob" who needs to be in a "looney bin"? And, of course, given the prevalence of Alzheimers, many of us have mental illness in our future. So how about a little compassion for this guy, which doesn't mean we can't stop him from breaking trees. But, we need not demonize him.
  • Pshaw photogirl, tell that to the trees on my block.

    But seriously, you are correct. My callousness is misdirected. It should really have been directed to the guardians of Mr. Maynard, whose own neglect led to all of the tree damage, and the city which for years turned away while he did it.
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