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7/3/2010: 2 Shootings on Franklin Ave -- Near 95 South - Page 2 — Brooklynian

7/3/2010: 2 Shootings on Franklin Ave -- Near 95 South

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  • MHA wrote: As I thought: you're ''jus' the 'good ol' boys'...."
    No members of my tribe in Hazzard County.
  • ditto.

    In the above story, I just stopped in for a beer.
    The various characters and the overall show are just a great bonus.

    Me and my peeps aren't the ones messing with the police, we are sitting at the bar.

    ...but much like the Batman series with Adam West, the cops in Dukes of Hazzard (Dukes of Franklin?) end up bumbling most of of the time, and it makes for an excellent show.

    and I'm pretty sure my brother had a Dukes of Hazard lunchbox.
  • cool. i stand corrected.
  • besides, aren't the Good Ol' Boys the heros in that show?

    KWAC, you going to weigh in on this one?
  • Whomever they were, they were rockin' the wrong flag on their Dodge Charger.
  • admittedly, the Crown Heights version would involve a different flag.

    ...and likely an unlimited metrocard, or a bike.

    The Daisy Duke character is clearly applicable to all races and ethnicites.
  • I went into 95 South the other day and had two god-awful powerful Long Island ice teas served in plastic cups.
  • ....was a version of Daisy there?
  • MHA wrote: I went into 95 South the other day and had two god-awful powerful Long Island ice teas served in plastic cups.
    Ha! Love it!

    You can only make LI ice tea one way- strong.

    You stumbled home, didn't you?
  • I don't remember how I got home. I woke up the next day only recalling sitting at the bar in a stupor. It's like that part of my life was edited out. I checked the dailies for evidence of murder and mayhem and saw none, to my relief.No one looked at me funnily the next day. I figured I either transported home Nightcrawler-style (I can do that, you know), or muscle memory kicked in and I made my way home without the use of my addled brain.
  • So, was this a celebratory occasion? Or were you drinking out of depression over our Tree Branch Breaker and the destruction he caused?
  • I can't even recall the reason behind the drink. I went in because the music was pumping and the place was empty. I like the look of the place when the innards are exposed. I sat down and initially asked for a glass of Syrah and they had none. Merlot then; they had none. Uh well, how about a Long Island iced tea? The young lady behind the counter had on a t-shirt that generously exposed two of God's best gift to Man, and they were covered with an emollient that gave them a wonderful sheen underneath the dimmed light. I was already drunk on them. I wasn't going to leave empty handed, so to speak.

    When she plopped the plastic cup in front of me I was disappointed. I'm not 16 in someone's basement. Give me glass or don't give me a gosh-darned thing. But I thought that maybe given the recent climate of events in the area, plastic wasn't necessarily a bad thing. You can't kill a man with a plastic cup -- unless you get him to eat it, I think. When I tasted the mixture it was as if it was made from cough syrup. It was horrible. But the sugar in it made me sip at it, and a centimeter away from the bottom of the cup I developed the ability to slow time down. I gaped at the twinned shiny softness kept snug in the black t-shirt and watched in Steve Austin slow motion as they bounced about. The young lady didn't seem to mind and asked me if I wanted another. I don't know if she mean another one in the t-shirt (oh gawd yes!!) or another drink. She gave me another drink. I pulled out my cell phone and started to diddle with the buttons to help me look oblivious. The music volume went up a notch. The bass began to wrinkle my skin rhytmically, the way the cheeks of middle age men undulate as they ride their Harley's on the highway; or it felt that way. They played a Keith Sweat song and I started bobbing and weaving. I finally got this place, it's appeal I mean. If you want a sweet alcoholic drink and a wonderful pair of breasts to give it to you, then this is where you go. Don't fuss or fight and you will live. The speakers in there are awesome. The hipsters like to work at being cool in Franklin Park -- which has it's virtue too -- but when you grow tired of that and the overwhelming whiteness of course 95 South will do.

    Not that there is something wrong with whiteness, but whitefolks don't like bass, you know? And I love bass. Two Italian women from New Jersey came in with all their tacky splendor and said, "Where's the other bar? Aren't there two bars in one here?" They were obviously thinking of Franklin Park. Two brothers checked out their bottoms. They were packing. Not the brothers, the women's bottoms. It's a pity. They left. That would have been high entertainment had they stayed.

    So the drinks were awful tasting, but it got me blitzed.
  • Today's episode was brought to you by the letter B

    boobs
    bass
    bottoms
    booze
    blitzed

    ...a fine episode.
  • Hold up- white people don't like BASS!?!?!? Betta check yo self, son. (wink!)
    I'm a singer who plays a little bass. My love of bass has (in the past) trancended to loving the man behind the bass. Without bass, there is no spine to the music. Without bass, there is no way possible to "bob and weave," as you did. Without bass.....sigh....one can't really ever feel the music.

    Respect. I. Love. Bass.

    Now, onto 95 South- I went there in the first few months of opening with another gal from this board. Both our curvy white asses with depth-defying cleavage couldn't get attention from either of the bar mistresses - not that we were trying to use that, but we got it so....

    We stood there, $20 bill in hand and waited..............for 15 minutes.

    Those chicks took their sweet ass time coming to our end of the (seriously short) bar and you know who's order they took? The super tall fella standing behind us (who'd only appeared there a short minute before).

    I threw a hissy fit the likes of which they didn't see coming. I stomped off and (I tried to be polite, I swear) told the manager exactly what I thought of his bartenders (inexperienced, SLOW, and slutty- there only for the men and their money). They were surprised, but I think deep down, they didn't care. THEY put those chicks there. THEY told them to wear deep plunging necklines. THEY must have told them to pay more attention to the male patrons. It was obvious.

    So, from your story, I can see nothing's changed. And hey- it worked! You drank not only one shitty drink, you had ANOTHER! LI ice tea, for the record, is supposed to taste like ICE TEA- not shit. So, I'm right- they dress like sluts to make up for the fact that they can't pour a drink to save their lives. That's the most insulting part of all, IMO.
  • Oh, one question- how much did you tip her?
  • If I read correctly, WCW is stating that she has boobs, bass, bottom and the ability to make people blitzed on well mixed booze.

    However, unlike the Daisy Duke's of 1-95, she believes that bartenders should be willing to provide these services without regard to a customer having physical balls.
  • Subject: Testing The Waters Of I-95.., Then Heading Next Door To FP

    After living in the neighborhood for a little over a year, a friend and I were deciding to test the waters and finally venture into I -95 to sample their food menu and perhaps have a drink.

    We were all ready to go last week, then we remember the previous shootings.., and quite frankly our "Cosby - kid" bred selves lost all pretense of having any courage.

    Another friend of ours - who quite frankly likes a rougher element in her men - (not saying I - 95 definitively has a "rougher" element as I have not ventured in yet), cautioned us to go before the restaurant turns into a bar/night club as it can at times be a "bit much".

    So, I will test the waters of I -95 with my two female friends, 1 Afro- American slightly conservative woman, 1 white woman that appreciates all things in life "rough around the edges".., and me.

    Now, to the "overwhelming whiteness" of Franklin Park.., well, I've been going for the last month and the place must of gotten a boost of diversity as the club seemed pretty darn mixed these days. Mixed as in 35 - 40% Afro - American to 65 - 60% white.

    Granted, I'm not a bar fly there every day of the week, but I'm come on different days and times and the place has been consistently mixed. And, the music, sorry to say, has been consistently horrible.

    I'm not a bass Queen, though I do appreciate a good bass line, I can live with Classic Rock, Class Soul, Electronica, Techno.., I can even live with Pop Music.., just please let it be GOOD MUSIC! And at that, Franklin Park sucks! The music there is consistently is horrible!

    Please Franklin Park.., hire a Music Director, someone to set and keep a constantly good varied music motif and vibe going.., and this sister may just have more than 1 glass of wine an outing!
  • Ben wrote: This is a situation where rent stabilization causes a lot of harm to a neighborhood. The landlords cannot evict the bad apples and thus no one else but other bad apples want to live there. In a short time the whole building turns to shit.

    If there were consequences to the behaviors that create these negative environments then the behaviors would change. Unfortunately there is little to nothing that a landlord can do to remove these people or change their behavior.
    Booting long term tenants is not the problem. I'd say the majority of long term tenants in Crown Heights are well to do hard working people. It's the few knuckleheads that ruin it. No need to nuke the orchard to clear some bad apples.
  • WCW I don't recall tipping her. I am sure that I did. Usually I go no further than the obligatory American peso. I assume I gave her two dollars. And yeah, the drinks were supremely horrible. They did not taste like iced tea. They were the worst tasting LI iced teas I have ever had. Seriously; in my life. And I hate drinking booze out of plastic cups. That act alone bespeaks a presumption that I am not worthy of respect. But that's Blackfolks for you. We treat each other constantly with contempt and disrespect for the most part. What 95 South needs is more whitefolks going there, and then I'll get my glass.
  • Cool The Kid wrote: Booting long term tenants is not the problem. I'd say the majority of long term tenants in Crown Heights are well to do hard working people. It's the few knuckleheads that ruin it. No need to nuke the orchard to clear some bad apples.
    Right.

    Besides, ask the cops around the neighborhood. They will tell you it's the same hand full of people committing almost all the crime in the area. Rarely deviates from that.
  • 95 South really sucks. I've been twice. They charged me $14 for whiskey and ginger ale. The drink was terrible and so was the food. I tried to give it a second chance, but I was turned off by the not so refined crowd. This was within the first few months of it opening. I haven't been back since.
  • MHA wrote: What 95 South needs is more whitefolks going there, and then I'll get my glass.
    Well, good luck with that. With the way I was treated (not for my whiteness, but for my femaleness), I'm not likely to go back there anytime soon.

    I'm not as much of a barfly anymore since I got married, so it's not like they'll miss my money....
  • Cool The Kid wrote: [quote=Ben]This is a situation where rent stabilization causes a lot of harm to a neighborhood. The landlords cannot evict the bad apples and thus no one else but other bad apples want to live there. In a short time the whole building turns to shit.

    If there were consequences to the behaviors that create these negative environments then the behaviors would change. Unfortunately there is little to nothing that a landlord can do to remove these people or change their behavior.
    Booting long term tenants is not the problem. I'd say the majority of long term tenants in Crown Heights are well to do hard working people. It's the few knuckleheads that ruin it. No need to nuke the orchard to clear some bad apples.

    Who said anything about kicking out all the long term tenants and "nuking the orchard to clear some bad apples"? I'm just saying that a landlord should be able to kick out the disruptive tenants who are degrading the quality of life for everyone else.

    Unfortunately this isn't possible because rent stabilization guarantees a lease renewal and if the rent gets paid the tenant can stay, no matter what level of disruption, harassment, etc. towards other tenants and the community may be going on. To evict a "bad apple" will take thousands of dollars and years in court and the chances of success are very low.
  • Ben wrote: [quote=Cool The Kid][quote=Ben]This is a situation where rent stabilization causes a lot of harm to a neighborhood. The landlords cannot evict the bad apples and thus no one else but other bad apples want to live there. In a short time the whole building turns to shit.

    If there were consequences to the behaviors that create these negative environments then the behaviors would change. Unfortunately there is little to nothing that a landlord can do to remove these people or change their behavior.
    Booting long term tenants is not the problem. I'd say the majority of long term tenants in Crown Heights are well to do hard working people. It's the few knuckleheads that ruin it. No need to nuke the orchard to clear some bad apples.

    Who said anything about kicking out all the long term tenants and "nuking the orchard to clear some bad apples"? I'm just saying that a landlord should be able to kick out the disruptive tenants who are degrading the quality of life for everyone else.

    Unfortunately this isn't possible because rent stabilization guarantees a lease renewal and if the rent gets paid the tenant can stay, no matter what level of disruption, harassment, etc. towards other tenants and the community may be going on. To evict a "bad apple" will take thousands of dollars and years in court and the chances of success are very low.

    Three words----> Section 8 housing
  • WCW,
    The next time you are in a predominantly Black bar and the waitresses take a long time to come to you, this is what you do:

    1. Smile -- small smile (eye contact)
    2. When they come complement them on their outfit or their hair (no eye contact)
    3. Smile -- small smile (eye contact)
    4. Compliment them again (no eye contact)
    5. Start your drink request with 'May I please have...' (no eye contact here)
    6. Smile -- small smile (eye contact)


    No doubt the waitresses projected on to you a sense of entitlement -- or you gave that off. They had to save face in front of the rest of the folks in the bar. They had to ensure that they did not appear servile in the face of your whiteness. Your impatience was probably interpreted as 'a sense of entitlement' -- and that's if you didn't go in there with a sense of entitlement to begin with. It's likely that they thought you were in their trawling for brothas, and that already made you suspect. Who knows, maybe some brothas were in there scoping out your self-stated big-bootyness, and homegirl didn't like that. As an ambassador for my people, Pharaoh, I offer you an apology...
  • MHA wrote: WCW,
    The next time you are in a predominantly Black bar and the waitresses take a long time to come to you, this is what you do:

    1. Smile -- small smile (eye contact)
    2. When they come complement them on their outfit or their hair (no eye contact)
    3. Smile -- small smile (eye contact)
    4. Compliment them again (no eye contact)
    5. Start your drink request with 'May I please have...' (no eye contact here)
    6. Smile -- small smile (eye contact)


    No doubt the waitresses projected on to you a sense of entitlement -- or you gave that off. They had to save face in front of the rest of the folks in the bar. They had to ensure that they did not appear servile in the face of your whiteness. Your impatience was probably interpreted as 'a sense of entitlement' -- and that's if you didn't go in there with a sense of entitlement to begin with. It's likely that they thought you were in their trawling for brothas, and that already made you suspect. Who knows, maybe some brothas were in there scoping out your self-stated big-bootyness, and homegirl didn't like that. As an ambassador for my people, Pharaoh, I offer you an apology...
    So a server doesn't serve because they don't want to appear.... servile?

    I don't think this is a profitable way to run a bar...
  • I think this is fascinating -- but I also think that a great deal of what convo we've had should be split from the beginning of the discourse about 95South -- because what we've spoken about has nothing to do with the violent acts that occurred near it.

    A great deal of what I said in my recent positing is akin to a great deal that was said on the now notorious spitting thread.

    What I was trying to get across to WCW is that there are social protocols. I feel them when I go into an Irish pub on the lower west side, or in Boston -- or in McSorley's for that matter, or if I go overseas and again I am the sole Black person about. I realize that people have there own identities to nurse, and if I come along outwardly showing my impatience about the lack of service, then I will likely suffer social consequence, which, I think is what happened to WCW. I agree with you in principle, that it ought not to be that way, but that is the way it is. Pragmatism here is wisdom, which caters not to what's right or what's wrong, but rather to what will get you what you want with minimal damage to your heart, soul,mind and body.
  • IDK man. If I go to a place where I am to be served, and the service sucks, I will let whoever is serving me know they need to step it up. Enabling or overlooking poor service because of otherwise unrelated racial issues seems counterproductive and only serves to further worsen/widen whatever rifts/issues may be. If 95 South wants to grow their stopping-in-from-Franklin-Park-out-of-curiosity client base, they need to serve with Franklin Park quality service- for everyone who walks in the door.

    Bottom line- you don't come between a man (or woman!) and his (or her!) alcohol! (Lol.)
  • Well, regarding 95 South I had no problem with the service, just the quality of the drink. I've spent half a lifetime being ignored by the help. That being the case, I've taken the pragmatic route. If I am in Dublin, then I'm gonna smile my ass off until my distant relatives come over and give me some help. I understand the whole class-race dynamic. All I want is a drink. I'm not looking to contact the BBB just becuase the waiter/waitress takes a long time comin'...
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