cat FLUTD problem--any advice?
Hi all! I think many people in this forum have pets, and I would like to have an advice about my cat's medical problem.
Recently my male cat got sick and it was called FLUTD (feline lower urinary tract disease)---basically he got infection in his bladder and got urinary stones, that blocked the urethra he could not pee. I took him to a vet, and operation ( to put tube so that his urine flow again) cost us $1400 with 3 days hospitalization. The vet said that it could happen again in the future, and if it happened, he need the same operation or even worse, a surgery. It will be difficult for us to afford multiple operations.
I looked for info and FLUTD is somehow common for cats. I wonder if anybody had similar problem, and how did it go...the vet recommended special diet, which we will start as soon as the cat gets back. Also, if there were any possibility that I can find a vet which charges less (my vet now is 5th avenue cat clinic.) I have looked for information about Pet insurance but any of them cover pre-existing condition.
I really appreciate for advice. Please overlook grammatical mistakes.
Recently my male cat got sick and it was called FLUTD (feline lower urinary tract disease)---basically he got infection in his bladder and got urinary stones, that blocked the urethra he could not pee. I took him to a vet, and operation ( to put tube so that his urine flow again) cost us $1400 with 3 days hospitalization. The vet said that it could happen again in the future, and if it happened, he need the same operation or even worse, a surgery. It will be difficult for us to afford multiple operations.
I looked for info and FLUTD is somehow common for cats. I wonder if anybody had similar problem, and how did it go...the vet recommended special diet, which we will start as soon as the cat gets back. Also, if there were any possibility that I can find a vet which charges less (my vet now is 5th avenue cat clinic.) I have looked for information about Pet insurance but any of them cover pre-existing condition.
I really appreciate for advice. Please overlook grammatical mistakes.
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Gretch.. In another lifetime I bred Persian Cats. One male, owned by a friend was sire to my first litter with my female. Shortly after, he started with these urinary tract problems. Sounds so similar to what you are describing. My friend opted for operation to "expand" things so potential stones could pass.. well it worked. he was also kept on a low ash diet for his entire life thereafter. This was a young cat at the time( 4 years old) and he lived a long and glorious lifetime.
I think you should try less invasive methods, like just diet and distilled water but if it comes to surgery it can be a real (though expensive) option. -
Hi veets, thanks for reply!
Yes, the condition sounds similar...it is encouraging to hear he had a good long life ;-)
I had no idea until it happened, but urinary traction is pretty serious problem....it needed to be treated within 72 hours or it could have been fatal. I do not want to have surgery if it could be avoided, but operation to flow the pee may be unavoidable, if it happened again. Seems like the price of operation varies depending on the vet...wondering how much did it cost for the operation to expand his "tube" ? -
I have been very lucky (knock on wood), my nine year-old desexed male cat has never had any urinary tract problems. I know this doesn't help you, but anyone out there considering acquiring a male cat, would be advised to do as I did, which was to research potential health issues in cats and take precautions. In my case I have fed my cats (I have a nine year-old desexed female as well) a high quality dry food diet (Royal Canin Indoor Cat initially, now Hill Science Diet Oral Care), which have been formulated to prevent FLUTD.
It is also possible that some cats are more susceptible than others.
I looked at vet insurance when I first brought the cats to NYC and several times since, but have been generally unhappy at the price to be paid versus what conditions they'll cover at the age my cats are now.
You may want to consider a different veterinary practice. My experience in NY has been that veterinary practices that seek to emulate upscale human medical practices tend to have upscale prices. I have a great vet on the UWS of Manhattan that doesn't have the whole gamut of vet assistants and multiple exam rooms etc. He charges reasonable prices. My partner takes his small dogs to these midscale - upscale practices and generally pays outrageous fees and gets offered treatments that are similarly upscaled and up-priced.
You are always entitled to seek a second opinion, and in asking for one, need to be quite pointed about asking the vet about his/her confidence in performing the surgery successfully.
The Winn Feline Foundation website provides a lot of information about cat health. See http://www.winnfelinehealth.org/. -
Luckily that's one of the things I haven't had problems with - I got stuck with kidney failure.
I just wanted to say that we all have our own opinions of vets - I love Park Slope Veterinary Care, others love AnimalKind, Prospect Park Animal Clinic, Hope, etc. But I have never heard anything good about the Cat Clinic on 5th Avenue - and this does not just come from people on these boards. I'm not saying they did anything wrong but I would go to another vet. -
we have that problem, too. never had it before this cat, so yes, i agree that some cats are just more susceptible. we've never had to do that surgery, because he's always started yowling and complaining when not yet seriously blocked -- muscle relaxant plus some pressure from the vet has done the job (YEOUCH).
what's worked for us is low-magnesium wet food (<.003%) plus a dose of this powder every day. when we stopped the powder, he started having problems again.
hope vet carries the powder -- though i think they may want to know a vet has recommended it -- or you can order it online. (if you find somewhere local that has it, please pm!) -
Bonhuma, I take issue with your term "de-sexed" in referring to your cats that have been spayed and neutered. What exactly are you implying? That a male without testicles is not a male? That a female with tubes tied, or in case of a hysterectomy, without a uterus is not a female?
My altered pit bull still "dances" with the ladies. and by that I mean full erection and getting locked in. Thankfully he is shooting blanks and not adding to the pet overpopulation problem. Nobody would call him desexed or not a male. My mother had a hysterectomy, does that make her de-sexed? Not female? Not a woman?
Your loaded term implies that a spayed or neutered animal is somehow not fully an animal or male or female, which leads to people who are uninformed to believe that they shouldn't fix their animals.
What exactly are you trying to convey when you use that term? -
tsarina wrote: Bonhuma, I take issue with your term "de-sexed" in referring to your cats that have been spayed and neutered. What exactly are you implying? That a male without testicles is not a male? That a female with tubes tied, or in case of a hysterectomy, without a uterus is not a female?
In my dialect of English, desexed refers to an animal that has had all its reproductive organs removed in their entirety. Take a chill pill.
My altered pit bull still "dances" with the ladies. and by that I mean full erection and getting locked in. Thankfully he is shooting blanks and not adding to the pet overpopulation problem. Nobody would call him desexed or not a male. My mother had a hysterectomy, does that make her de-sexed? Not female? Not a woman?
Your loaded term implies that a spayed or neutered animal is somehow not fully an animal or male or female, which leads to people who are uninformed to believe that they shouldn't fix their animals.
What exactly are you trying to convey when you use that term? -
My understanding is that this is common with male indoor cats.
My guy started having these types of issues. We were told to take him off dry food and put on wet food only.
These issues went away for him.
Hope this helps. -
While I am lucky not to go through any of this with my boys - that seafood cat food has been linked to urinary tract infections in male cats. I know that is not what you have going on but might be good just to cut that flavor out to be safe.
Good luck with your kitty and hope it all works out for the best. -
I also went through the same thing with my male cat this past summer. He had stones in his bladder that had to be removed surgically. The whole 4 day ordeal cost me $2000. I feel you and your kitty's pain!
The good news is he's doing much much better now.
My vet has him on a prescription diet of Royal Canin SO wet food which so far has kept his urinary pH at an optimal level (a key factor in preventing crystals from forming). The key is really a diet of wet food, as I've found in my research, since cats are not biologically inclined to drink water. There are some studies that show that low ash and magnesium content in food is also an important factor in preventing the formation of urinary crystals/stones. I've also heard that seafood-flavored cat food, as mentioned in the previous post, tends to have a higher ash content than meat-based food. High protein content (low or no grain formula food) is also important.
Here are links to some information you may find useful:
Five Cat Food Factors That Discourage Feline UTD
http://ezinearticles.com/?Five-Cat-Food-Factors-That-Discourage-Feline-UTD&id=27939
Ash, Magnesium & FLUTD
http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/KnowledgeBase/knowledgebasedetail.aspx?articleid=84 -
One of my cats had exactly the same thing happen a couple of years ago (worsened by the fact that he is afraid of water to the extent that he won't drink).
He now only gets wet catfood with water added to it, ensuring he gets enough fluids.. seems to have done the trick so far..
Good luck! -
Thank you so much for advice everybody!
My cat came back home from hospital yesterday, feeling miserable with collar and pain but he has been eating OK. He still cannot pee very much, probably (and hopefully) because his private part is swallowing up from the catheter that was put in to get the pee out. I feel bad he is trying to go to bathroom so many time....hopefully he gets better soon. I got some sample for special diets which supposed to help dissolving the stones.
Since I got my cats (I have 2) I have been taking them to "5th avenue cat crinique" but I do not like there too much either. Iast time, I had a male docter who was not really nice. This time, I got a woman docter who was new to the clinique, and she was really nice, taking care of the cat very well, but the problem was the price. I think it was really expensive.
After doing some research, I found a program that you can join, and get 25% off from vets who participate with the program, called" Pet Assure." Unlike insurance, pre-existing condition does not matter so I decided to join. I found
couple of vets in the neighborhood who are participating the program, I wonder if you guys have been any of them?
The name are:
Call Ahead Vet.
Windser Terrace Vet.
Brooklyn Cares
there are some more, but those looks close enough....
Thank you! -
We take our dog to Brooklyn Cares, they are nice and caring, and never give a bad attitude. They can be expensive, however.
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My male cat had a track infection, but no stones that we could tell. We took him to Park slope Vet Care on 413 5th ave
He saw a DR called Parker.
They have payment plans and are extremely good about not taking any test that you can't afford unless they are vital. I told them I was broke and they really worked with me on my bill.
My cat is better (after a round of antibiotics and such) and now takes food that is especially made to urinary track health, plus when he started to act like the infection was coming back we gave *pure* cranberry juice (in the dropper the vet gave us) for a week at dinner time. He didn't like it, but all signs of him getting a new infection again went away. -
My cat also have bladder infection, I wonder if cramberry juice would help for him too. I will ask docter next time...
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We just happened to have pure cranberry juice form Trader Joes, but you can buy powered cranberry to add to the food. Or go with Sweet Tea's suggestion of her supplement.
I tell ya, the cranberry worked for my cat. It's not a cure, and if your cat already has UTI -- you need to go to the vet. -
Hi all!
It has been a week or so sine my cat is out of hospital and he has been doing ok. Just hoping the problem will not come back, we will keep the special Px foods....thank you so much for the feedbacks & advices.
For the new crinic, I have stopped by Call Ahead vet and I did not want to take my cat there---the docter was nice but that place is not very clean, it smelled strange.
I also called Brooklyn Cares for advice, and they were very helpful and they accept 25% off program from Pef Assure, if it happens again I would probably go there.
5th avenue cat clinic was helpful. I changed my mind this time about their service, if only they take Pet Assure I would not have minded to keep them...
Gretch -
5th Avenue Cat Clinic is one of the most expensive vet clinics in the neighborhood and I don't even feel that they offer the best care. I have great experience with Dr. Isaacson at Prospect Heights Animal Hospital on Flatbush as well as the doctors at Prospect Park Veterinary Clinic. Unfortunately this particular surgery is just expensive though. Be sure to keep your cat on this special diet. It's something that he will probably be on for life but it should help to keep this issue at bay. It's unfortunately a pretty common problem. One mistake is that people stop feeding the diet once the cat is better. Just be sure not to do this and he should be fine.
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Leozoeypiper> Thank you for advice. I actually saw your post about Call Ahead vet, and you are so right. And yes, apparently 5th Avenue Cat Clinic is pretty high end in terms of pricing.
My cat is doing good so far, I am too afraid of changing the special diet because even though the foods are pretty expensive, we do not want to see him in such a miserable situatin again.
It costs so much to treat pets in serious sickness like this, I wonder how many people are acutally choosing to have pet insurance--they may cover the cost once something happend, but they have many limitation and the fee is not cheap.
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