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MERGED: A Morning Daggar/Homicide at Branded — Brooklynian

MERGED: A Morning Daggar/Homicide at Branded

karl the druid
karl the druid
edited November -1 in Prospect Heights
a current events poem:

a morning daggar

in a vanderbilt theme bar

more news will follow
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  • elgjr
    elgjr

    Subject: Homicide scene at Branded Saloon

    Branded Saloon, located at the intersection of Vanderbilt Avenue and Bergen Street, is this morning the scene of a homicide after an early-morning stabbing.

    Details are fuzzy, but it seems that there was some form of altercation between a dog-walker and a bar patron and bartender that left one person dead and the other hospitalized in serious condition.
  • MOD
    MOD
    From Gothamist

    Stabbing
    Vanderbilt Ave
    Brooklyn, NY
    9/30/2010 3:20 a.m.


    Did the person actually die? Which one? Were you there? Otherwise it is not a homicide.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    I await Karl's update. He posted this at 3:20 AM, making me believe he may have some firsthand knowledge
    http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=59526
  • onandon
    onandon
    Gah! I hate it when people die on my street! Anyone have any updates here...Karl is clearly sleeping in after a late night out...
  • cccc
    cccc
    Confirmed that one person was killed. Check out the News 12 website

    http://www.news12.com/home.jsp
  • onandon
    onandon
    News12 doesn't let you access their site without entering your Cablevision account info - which I don't have at work. So, that link didn't help me much.

    Any new details in their story?
  • MOD
    MOD
    http://www.news12.com/articleDetail.jsp?articleId=262648&position=1&;
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    Mama, those of us who don't have cablevision can't get in to the site thru your link. You'll need to cut and paste to be helpful. k thx
  • MOD
    MOD
    But I don't have cablevision. I just followed CCCC's link to the brooklyn section and the article is there..

    1 dead, 1 injured in double stabbing

    (09/30/10) BROOKLYN - Police say one person was found dead and one injured after a double stabbing.

    Police say the incident occured near 603 Vandebilt Avenue. Both victims were taken to Kings County Hospital.

    Police say they have one suspect in custody.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    "Police say they have one suspect in custody" ....this is good news.

    I still want Karl to wake up and tell us whether his account is due to looking out the window or running like hell from the bar.
  • wagon wheels
    wagon wheels
    We are deeply saddened and hurt by the loss of our dear friend and co-worker Chai Eun J Hillmann who was killed last night in an act of needless and sensless violence. The attacker also stabbed another co-worker and dear friend Daniel who is in stable condition. We intend to come together as friends and family and as a community to show our outrage for violent crime in our neighborhoods. We ask that you keep Chai and Daniel's family and friends in your thoughts and prayers.

    We intend to have a candle light vigil in honor of Chai and to show our solidarity against violence on Saturday night at 8pm.

    Branded Saloon
  • onandon
    onandon
    Hi Wagon Wheels - very sorry to hear about this as I'm sure it's a huge blow to your group of friends and working community.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    onandon wrote: Hi Wagon Wheels - very sorry to hear about this as I'm sure it's a huge blow to your group of friends and working community.
    yes, sorry for your loss.
  • whatchuwant
    whatchuwant
    I met Chai recently at Branded- he was a relatively new addition to the staff, if I'm not mistaken. He was a sweetheart of a guy, he was great at his job and I'm just floored right now....

    He has as min pin- sweetest doggy- I hope someone in his family will take him.

    :cry:
  • tyson
    tyson
    Wagon, thanks for the post. Please let us know about any other developments.
    All condolences to Chai's family.
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    Damn, this sucks. I can't believe it happened there. Chai was the nicest guy. If I was walking by Branded and saw him working, I always stopped in at least to say hi. I'm definitely going to miss him. I'm glad Daniel is ok so far, and wish him a speedy recovery.

    If the suspect in custody is the one who did this, I hope he gets put away for a long time.
  • bkchickie
    bkchickie
    I have a really hard time thinking that this happened in my neighborhood. That's unbelievable. I'm awaiting (perhaps) eyewitness details from Karl. Maybe he could write in prose and skip the haiku for such a serious topic.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    wagon wheels wrote: We are deeply saddened and hurt by the loss of our dear friend and co-worker Chai Eun J Hillmann who was killed last night in an act of needless and sensless violence. The attacker also stabbed another co-worker and dear friend Daniel who is in stable condition. We intend to come together as friends and family and as a community to show our outrage for violent crime in our neighborhoods. We ask that you keep Chai and Daniel's family and friends in your thoughts and prayers.

    We intend to have a candle light vigil in honor of Chai and to show our solidarity against violence on Saturday night at 8pm.

    Branded Saloon
    Kimmi Herring is the Director of Safe Horizon's Homicide-Crime Victims Program for Brooklyn.

    I just got off the phone with her.

    Depending upon her availablity and the interest of your co-workers, she is willing to do crisis intervention sessions at Branded or Beast, or facilitate sessions at her offices. The services are free of charge.

    She can be reached at 718-834-6688.

    Please feel free to PM me should you want further details.
    http://getinvolved.safehorizon.org/site/PageServer?pagename=angelrock_brooklynfund
  • brookfetish
    brookfetish
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/09/30/2010-09-30_prospect_heights_bartender_stabbed_to_death_at_branded_saloon_after_dog_fight_wi.html
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    BrookFetish wrote: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/09/30/2010-09-30_prospect_heights_bartender_stabbed_to_death_at_branded_saloon_after_dog_fight_wi.html
    WTF describing Gerard's reaction as "miffed." NYDN are dicks.
  • homeowner
    homeowner
    Carnivore wrote:

    If the suspect in custody is the one who did this, I hope he gets put away for a long time.
    According to the Daily News coverage, the attacker was someone from the neighborhood who was known to the people at the bar.
  • onandon
    onandon
    In the article the owner says they got the whole thing on video tape...

    I have to say, I understand the arguments people have about not wanting cameras up all over NY, but this is one of those times when you feel pretty good about it. I hope it's admissible in court.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    The Post's version

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/man_stabbed_during_early_morning_u1casI14SfLzOR0wotz7mM

    They refer to the suspect Daniel Pagan’s as a "convicted murderer", but do not explain further.
  • whyfi
    whyfi
    Nice, real nice...
    nypost wrote: Pagan, who served nine years in prison for shooting a man to death in 1991 and wounding another, is being questioned in the 77th Precinct, police said.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    They are updating the Post article as we each read it.
  • trainsmoke deleon
    trainsmoke deleon
    This is so awful. Sorry for your loss wagon wheels, heartfelt condolences to Chai's family and a quick recovery for Daniel. I live half a block from the saloon and am sickened by this news.
  • ltjbukem
    ltjbukem
    a while back, i recall reading on these message boards, i think, that there was a neighborhood dog walker who was extremely aggressive. was this pagan guy the same guy?
  • whatchuwant
    whatchuwant
    The owners of Branded have asked that I again mention to you all that a vigil will be held at the Saloon this Saturday night in memory of Chai and in outrage at violence in our neighborhood.

    Bar will be closed to the public tonight for friends and family gathering.
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    ltjbukem wrote: a while back, i recall reading on these message boards, i think, that there was a neighborhood dog walker who was extremely aggressive. was this pagan guy the same guy?
    I don't think so. He's a regular at many of the Vandy bars and he's a cook. I've never heard him talk about dog-walking.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    This writer summarizes the two articles into one nicely, but there isn't any new content

    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/09/marial_artist_bartender_stabbe.html
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