Another Homicide??? Utica -Eastern Pkwy

Amy Watkins fascinated NY for a while, I had forgot about the social work idealist murder.

King without a crown wrote: Being an Auxilliary is not really that difficult, I think a photo ID and an extra chromosome will get you in.

Some people believe I meet those qualifications.

....If they are correct, would it mean I get to drive fulfill my life's dream of seeing how fast one of those Cushman's with Interceptor III engines will really go?

My sense is they must be WAY faster than those with the Interceptor I engines, or the Interceptor II.

....please don't tell me the "real" NYPD does not share those with the Auxillary.

whynot_31 wrote:

xlizellx-


BTW, if you haven't already gone, the Annual Metro North Open House is excellent. It happens every year up in Croton. They open up their train rework facility to the public. I've been twice, and there is lots of huge machines and grease ....I think there is a sign shop as well!

They don't seem to have put the dates on their website yet, but it is usually held on a weekend in late October so the open air train tour can take advantage of the fall leaves. 'tis lovely AND greasy.

Bad news:

There will be no open house this year
http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=75112&start=0

Krow-
You are coming off as being preachy, but I have some time.

I think we all agreed with KWAC: Crime happens everywhere, but in some places more often. ...and it sucks. ...and we really wish it would stop.

But we know it never will, and soldier on.

We tend to talk about people and places we know more than those we don't. In that way, we are sort of like the media. Needless to say, this poor guy on Utica was lucky to get a mention on this obscure board, whereas the guy on Vandy will be in every paper and newscast today and tonight, and perhaps tomorrow.

....and, needless to say, both are events are tragic, and both people are just as dead. There is only one degree of "dead", after all.

It's just folks on this board (as well as media reporters) have more knowledge and info about one event than the other: The world of bars and restaurants that is represented by a 42 y/o bartender on Vandy vs. a 20 y/o guy on Utica.

Reporters after all, are college educated folks who tend to have enough disposable money to go and dine and drink once and a while. As Xlizelx points out, Utica's offerings don't measure up in that regard.

As a result of some crazy jobs in the past, I may be a little less clueless than some, but am certainly more clueless than some of the other posters (you'll get an idea of what various folks do as time goes on, or if you show up to an event).

While we try to keep in mind that loved ones and police are always googling right after a murder to look for clues and to try to make sense of what just happened, the Vandy killing also had a member of the bar contribute to the thread to give us an authoritative account of last night.

While I appreciate such input, I always try to get such folks to professionals ASAP, because the net is a mean, heartless place to go for support when you are in shock after having a loved one murdered. One needs only to look at the anonymous comment sections of the NY Mag, Post's and Daily News to see what I mean:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/09/30/2010-09-30_prospect_heights_bartender_stabbed_to_death_at_branded_saloon_after_dog_fight_wi.html

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/man_stabbed_during_early_morning_u1casI14SfLzOR0wotz7mM

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/09/marial_artist_bartender_stabbe.html

By comparison, this moderated board composed of mostly regulars (many of whom have met in real life) is incredibly tame and civil. But as a result of its size and the fact that it does not advertise except by the word of mouth, its core membership is probably less than 50 people. ....most of whom probably live within 2 miles of GAP.

So yea, I'm with Xlizelx, if it wasn't for KWAC posting every murder that goes down in the 77th, I doubt this thread would have been posted on the board. Hopefully the $10 was lost in the context of a joint checking account.

I think it is accurate to state that KWAC usually starts such threads for professional reasons: He'd like to solve crimes and keep us from becoming victims. (KWAC, you'll let me know if I'm wrong, right? You'll let me know if you'd like crimes to go unsolved and for us to be victims, right?). :shock:

Even though we can't help him solve many murders, I think he keeps coming back because he's gotten enough leads and entertainment to make it worth his while. ....kinda the same reason the rest of us seem to be here.

must. stay. on. topic.

Anyway, this murder thread of KWACs quickly produced Crickets, and so folks jabbered away on whatever they felt like. (kinda like Krow's post above, and this post by me).

It all comes back to my central theory of the regulars of this board: We have found a way to kill a lot of time. Sometimes we this time and this board to attempt to change the world, but mostly we use it for what we are certain it can accomplish: Killing time.

Speaking of which, KWAC and I have had long discussions in the past whether posting every shooting is a good or bad thing. The debate has usually been about whether folks should post when they hear gunshots, and we seem to have varying opinions about that. But I've heard very few people (if anyone) state that we shouldn't discuss murders, even those "east" of where most of live.

KWAC- Now that some time has past, did you guys catch anyone in this killing? Was it rival cru stuff like dizel.prod states? (no offense dizel.prod, I don't know you yet.)

Note this took place in the 71st Precinct, not the 77th, so KWAC saying he does not know about the status of the investigation does not mean it is being ignored by police. It is just not his bailiwick.

Text below is cut-and-paste from the Brooklyn Eagle edition of Thursday September 23. http://www.brooklyneagle.com/categories/category.php?id=38295

Crown Heights Shootout Claims Life of Guard, 20
by Brooklyn Eagle ([email protected]), published online 09-23-2010

By Leslie Yeh
And Ruby Edwards
Special to Brooklyn Daily Eagle

CROWN HEIGHTS — A 20-year-old man was shot dead Tuesday night outside his home in Crown Heights in an episode that spiraled into a shootout on a nearby shopping street.

People waiting for the bus around the corner on Utica Avenue ran for shelter, and storekeepers ducked under their counters as gunmen tore down the streets, firing several more shots and shattering the window of a shoe store at the end of the block, witnesses said.

The victim, Guyana-born Jurgen Goudmyn, had been working his shift as a security officer all day. According to his brother Andre, he had returned home from work, put his jacket and Popeye’s chicken down, and went back outside. Moments later he was dead.

“I heard five shots and saw people running to the scene,” said a store assistant working next door.

Goudmyn was found lying on the pavement with two gunshot wounds to the chest. Despite several more shots that were fired as gunmen raced around the corner, no further injuries were reported.

Police and ambulances arrived on the scene within 10 minutes and rushed Goudmyn to Kings County Hospital, where he was pronounced dead on arrival.

“People panicked and filled my store,” said Solomon Castro, the manager of a clothing store next to Goudmyn’s apartment building at 1103 Eastern Parkway.

“One even said that a gunman had elbowed her while running away,” he said.

Local street vendors were reluctant to comment on the incident. One woman said she was afraid to speak without a guarantee of protection, amid speculation that the crime was related to gang activity in the neighborhood.

Tony Mantana, an employee of the shoe store that was hit by a stray bullet, said that gang conflict is a common occurrence in the area.

“Everyone here has guns, at least two or three,” he said.

Friends and family grieved in silence on Wednesday in front of a sidewalk memorial set with candles and a poster board bearing messages in honor of Goudmyn’s memory.

They spoke warmly of his character.

“He was like a big teddy bear,” said Lashawna Chester, one of Goudmyn’s closest friends. “Everyone can tell you, you see Jurgen and you get a big hug. He always brought positivity.”

She said that Goudmyn was well known around the community and always made a point to greet people on the street. He and his friends would hang out, laugh, and drink in front of his home often, despite warnings from his mother not to stay outside too late.

“She said it’s not safe on the streets out here,” Chester said, sobbing on the shoulder of a friend. “She always wanted us to take care of him.”

Relatives mourning outside his home included his two older brothers and his cousin, who had another family member who was killed in a shooting last week.

“We need people to come forward,” police said. “Otherwise, it will just turn into another senseless, unsolved murder.”

Always take what you read with a grain of salt, because newspapers always portray the victim in this manner. Just look at the way the victim in the Pacific Street was depicted as being shot after breaking up a fight. No where did it mention that he was a blood member or had just got finished bashing someone over the head with a hammer.

It's probably safe to assume that the victim in the Eastern Parkway shooting was also Blood member judging from the red bandanna that was hanging by his memorial.

sorry for the delay in posting this, but I don't read the linked website real often:

An article with pictures re: this shooting
http://www.crownheights.info/index.php?itemid=28977&catid=23