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Nostrand Ave is dirty - Let's clean it up! — Brooklynian

Nostrand Ave is dirty - Let's clean it up!

nostrandpark
nostrandpark
edited November -1 in Crown Heights/Prospect Lefferts Gardens

Subject: Nostrand Ave is dirty - Let's clean it up!

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There's too much garbage on Nostrand Avenue! We're undertaking a project to clean it up. We need your help. Please take our very short survey about this project: http://bk.ly/umS . If you're interested in assisting shoot us an email at [email protected]. Spread the word.

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  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    A lot of that looks like household or business trash ....people rarely walk very far with a hefty bag of trash. That isn't a pedestrian problem
  • xlizellx
    xlizellx
    I agree, whynot. Also when the trash cans out here fill up, trash is just then thrown near it or on the ground (like in that picture). In highly trafficed areas in Manhattan, BIDs purchase bags to tie up and put aside so that the trash cans can keep being used effectively. The sanitation department doesn't come more than once a day.
  • mha
    mha
    What's needed on Nostrand is notorious B.I.D. status...
  • paraderest
    paraderest
    This happens every weekend.
  • clayfilms
    clayfilms
    count me in!!
  • homeowner
    homeowner
    A lot of the Nostrand Avenue trash on the weekends come from the commercial buildings with residents. The commercial businesses have pickups by commercial vendors, but the other tenants don't always have storage space for trash in the buildings, and dumpsters or other trash cans are not allowed on the street. As a result over the weekends when there is no city trash pickup people take their trash to the corner garbage cans when the cans inside are full.

    The rest of it comes from businesses that should be paying for trash pickups but for whatever reason are not. Sometimes, businesses have more trash than usual and they sneak bags to the corner. If one business does this with one bag a day for two days the corners are overrun with trash bags.
  • bentley
    bentley
    This is also a three day weekend, with no pick up on Monday. That adds to the pile
  • joshb
    joshb
    I've been toying around with the idea of doing the same thing on Franklin and Classon, but focusing on the tree beds. As a dog walker, I feel it's my sworn mission to remove all the broken glass and bottle caps from around the trees.
  • xlizellx
    xlizellx
    I did a street cleanup on MLK day last year on franklin ave and while it was nice it was only 1 day. What if it was done once a week, same time same place? People could come the weeks they are around and would be both effective for cleaning and would make a statement to people/businesses that we don't want dirty streets.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    MHA wrote: What's needed on Nostrand is notorious B.I.D. status...
  • mr. met
    mr. met
    i applaud all of your efforts.

    it won't do much, though. the kids and the people are the problem.

    a few days ago i was sitting outside on classon and a group of kids were walking south. one had a big glass bottle in his hands. he was in the middle of the street and threw it against a metal fence. middle of the day. whatever. and we've all seen countless people just throw garbage on the ground or in the vicinity of garbage cans. no one cares. except you.

    i applaud your efforts, but the bottom line is that the community needs more people like you and less assholes.
  • xlizellx
    xlizellx
    mr. met wrote:

    it won't do much, though. the kids and the people are the problem.
    I agree. As a teacher in East Flatbush, I see it all the time. I try to teach about litter, recycling, etc....and they don't understand. Why? Because the ground is already trashed. It's already disgusting.

    It's easier to help guide someone not to litter when the ground is clean. It's tough to say "don't do that" when they look around and see that apparently everyone else has.

    Will we change people's thought-process or behavior right away? No. But seeing people cleaning, seeing a clean street, and having businesses joining in, there can be a change in the long run.

    I don't think that one clean up a year on MLK day does much of anything. But a clean up every week that shows the community that people do care and that it can be cleaned -- that might make a difference in the future.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    ^^^ this point of view is frequently referred to as the Broken Windows theory.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory
  • hiscrownheights
    hiscrownheights
    me likes this. :)
  • snowboardqueen
    snowboardqueen
    mr. met wrote:

    Will we change people's thought-process or behavior right away? No. But seeing people cleaning, seeing a clean street, and having businesses joining in, there can be a change in the long run.

    I don't think that one clean up a year on MLK day does much of anything. But a clean up every week that shows the community that people do care and that it can be cleaned -- that might make a difference in the future.
    Amen! How could we start - organize something like this for the major Crown Heights commercial Ave.'s?

    Classon, Franklin, Nostrand - I dare say Kingston - but I'm never Kingston to know for sure.
  • xlizellx
    xlizellx
    I would totally be on board. Is there a day of the week that is better than others? Times?

    I teach so I know I'm done earlier than most....but weekends are tough for commitment.

    Ideas? I would totally spearhead starting this if I got input about convenience
  • nostrandpark
    nostrandpark
    If we directly engage the very people that we suspect may be a problem, then a project like this can have a greater impact. So approaching the guys on the corner, explaining that we are trying to clean up our neighborhood and why, handing them some flowers and asking if they want to help. If they say no, it is what is it is. But at least they were engaged.

    If people are really serious about this Crown Heights cleanup, we should get together and make it happen.

    We have already started doing some preliminary planning on this front - including sourcing funds and additional resources. Actually we went with the "Go Green Go Clean" committee chair at CHCA to meet with the Big Belly Solar company (http://bigbellysolar.com/) out in the Bronx to see about getting these nifty cans in Crown Heights. Since then, CHCA has been working with Tish James, who has been very receptive. Al Vann is a harder nut to crack.

    In any event, if you are serious about working on this, so are we. Hit us up with an email at [email protected].
  • nostrandpark
    nostrandpark
    For those interested, we will have a short meeting tonight, Monday October 25th at 6:30p.m. 1158Dean Art Gallery (1158 Dean btwn Bedford and Nostrand) to start planning for the clean up!

    Oh, and to be clear, the clean up effort will initially focus on Nostrand and Franklin. We will be working with the folks at Crow Hill Community Assoc.
  • nostrandpark
    nostrandpark
    It's official. We will be greening and cleaning Nostrand and Franklin Avenues on Saturday, November 6th at 10:00 a.m. More details coming soon. In the meantime, save the date.

    http://nostrandpark.com/2010/10/27/save-the-date-crown-heights-clean-up-november-6th-at-10-a-m/
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