NEW FOOD ESTABLISHMENT ON 7TH AVE
Good morning my fellow Park Slopers. I am opening a new food spot in the Slope and I wanted your opinion. I want to make a place that you will definitely want to come back to. I am looking to open up on 7th Ave (can't give you an exact location yet, but it will below 10th Street). What is something that you want to see eating wise? I am doing this for you so any and all ideas are welcomed. The spot will not be a full blown restaurant, but rather a grab and go spot with some seating areas.
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---inexpensive dumplings, roast duck, scallion pancakes, but NOT ANOTHER vietnamese banh mi place!! So over that.
A breakfast to go spot: breakfast burritos! Why don't they do this on the east coast? West coast has tons of breakfast burritos! Malted shakes, breakfast sandwiches (I just went to Shopsin's for breakfast yesterday and I'm dying for another eggs, jack cheese and chorizo on garlic bread cibbatta) .. I'm not talking a bagel place.
.... more ideas to come
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Late night delivery would be loverly. It doesn't even have to be super late, but something quality available until 11pm would be great.
(Memo to all the banh mi places - if one of you stays open past 9:30 you'll get SO much business from me! And stay open past 7:30 on Sunday. I haven't even finished digesting brunch by then!)
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Salad. A real salad bar. So many of us work at home and would like a decent salad for lunch but don't have time/ingredients to make it or need a break for a few minutes to run out and get something.
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BBQ...there is no BBQ anywhere in Park Slope (or other close-by neighborhoods). You'd corner the market.
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Do you specialize in anything in particular?
It'd be nice to have a regular Vietnamese restaurant like the ones on U street. I want some Bo Luc Lac.
But what would be really awesome is a good old-fashioned bakery. A real bakery where bread is made and baked daily. Is there even a bakery left in the Slope?
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There's at least 2: brooklyn bread and brownstone bread... not saying they are any good.
Pastoralia, there have been attempts at soul food/BBQ places in park slope for years. They all failed, there was a place on sterling/6th ave.. no one went, got rave reviews, but the nabe didn't want to go there.
Then there was the BBQ spot where Playa was, and before that another by the same people... (crap, sorry I can't remember all the names), but their BBQ was just mediocre. BBQ is serious business and you really have to do it right or not at all. Pies & Thighs seems to have a good business model and food, same for Fette Sau. Soul Spot on Atlantic does well, but much of that is that they are cheap and stick to a fast food model. -
Great guys I love the responses. Would you like to see a higher end place where you would get really good food for your $$ or just a run of the mill food joint where the food is cheaper but of less quality? (less quality does not mean bad)
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What do you think of the concept of Brooklyn Bread?
Would something like that appeal to you on 7th? Having high end italian delicacies along with a section with bakery goods. (cakes, pastries, breads etc.)
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Landjägers!
please, open a place that specializes in landjägers. they are amazing, but american society has not made a place for them. you sell landjägers and i guarantee i will ride my bike to your store each day for a snack. i'll even volunteer to hold a sign out front to bring in business so that you are successful and i can continue to eat them.
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A cheese shop like Stinky Brooklyn, with a wall full of cheese, wine, and bread from Amys, Sullivan street, Eli's, & Tom Cat bakery. Cured meats and a small selection of high end spreads too.
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Do one thing, and do it really well. For example, barbecue. Or roast pig. Even better, a full-blown German sausage-and-beer hall. Be anything but run of the mill. Park Slope Eatery just opened right around there and can serve all run of the mill needs.
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Check out Porchetta on Sixth Street in Manhattan for the perfect grab and go model.
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Brooklyn Bread is a cafe, not a bakery. I don't think they even call themselves a bakery, it just looks like one and has bread in the name. They usually mostly have pastries. I'd like a real bakery where that's all they do, or mostly what they do.
Never heard of Brownstone Bread, will have to look that up.
How important is it that you make money on this business? I'm not sure a bakery would make you rich.
Nothing wrong with a German sausage and beer hall, but it sounds like the place is going to be close to Steinhoff.
Aside from a bakery, what I'd really like is for someone to take over Brooklyn Flipsters and turn it into a regular bar.
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Pork Buns. Pleas open a Chinese bakery.
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I second the salad vote. I'd love a good salad place. And a place that's not absurdly expensive. I'm probably in the minority here because I work in South Slope but don't live here, but I can tell you that my fellow office-mates are always lamenting that we a) are running out of affordable options, and b) there's not really a place that has good, filling salads.
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Oh, and for higher end places, personally I'd say no. There are too few reasonable places left in this area.
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VMC515, what do you think the local market will support?
For the strip of 7th Avenue you want, you might want to study the evolution of the 9th Street/7th Avenue restaurant that began in 2001 as the Minnow, serving New American seafood and burgers. In 2005, I think, it expanded into its neighboring lot as Bar Minnow, adding more casual seafood and burgers. But then its owner bailed and it became the more downmarket Brooklyn Burger Bar in 2006, closing two years later. Both were surfing the food trends of the time.
This year, on the corner of 8th Street and 7th Avenue, the Greek restaurant Okeanos opened half a block south from Istanbul Park, which had opened only last year. Maybe ethnic hostility is the new trend.
There are definitely more grab-and-go food stores lately in the mid-Slope stretch of 7th and 5th Avenues, with even delis that once did little meal prep now offering more sandwiches and snacks. You'll have competition.
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Could this be the old Grecian Corner site across from John Jay?
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So how would this sound ... giving you a place that has an option for really well put together sandwiches (italian style), serving dried italian goods such as cheeses and sausages. with a make your own salad station. Would anyone be interested in having a spot like that.
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You should NEVER compromise on quality, especially in this neighborhood.
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An authentic Italian Deli sounds great, VMC- just make sure everything's sliced to order and not sitting out. Maybe traditional panini too (the real kind, not the generic ones in every take-out place). Would love a place to get a real panini with some bresaola, aged pecorino, and arugala. Some home-made soups would also be good.
I second Gig- never compromise on quality! Be a foodie.
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I would never want to skip out on the quality but if I am going to do something I want to do it right. If I hear people want a healthy (ie grass feed) meat options then I would go that route. The only downfall to having eco friendly options is the price is going to be a little higher. I wanted to see what the neighborhood would rather. Regular chicken selling for $6 or grass fed for $9. I don't want to be another eatery
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Does "Press" not fit that bill (panini-wise) already? (I don't go very often, so it's a honest question)
VMC, the best advice I have is keep it simple and specialize. Don't try to be a deli, soup, bakery, cheese store and whatever that also sells falafal/pastries or something.
One more hope for PS: I want a Defontes here. Sooooo goooood. But Red Hook is too far to go for a lunch break. :-(
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I would never want to skip out on the quality but if I am going to do something I want to do it right. If I hear people want a healthy (ie grass feed) meat options then I would go that route. The only downfall to having eco friendly options is the price is going to be a little higher. I wanted to see what the neighborhood would rather. Regular chicken selling for $6 or grass fed for $9. I don't want to be another eatery
Personally I don't care about organic or whatever. I just want something clean and fresh and at a good price. In this economy I don't patronize eco friendly expensive shops, when I can go and get a nice chicken with sides at the store and cook it at home for a fraction of the price. I know it's park slope and some are rich, but times are tough.
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I'm not a big fan of Press- something about the food there just strikes me as sloppy, and it's really pricey for what you get. I agree though- keep it simple and specialize in doing a couple things really really well. Be the best and what you do, and keep the prices down.
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I truly appreciate everyone's advice and input.
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I love the idea of a casual, grab-and-go kind of place. I think the important thing, esp if you're going to be located south of 10th St, is to not end up with a bunch of built-in competitors. Basically, you've already got great coffee (Grumpy), loads of banh mi (Hancos and Henrys), pretty decent sandwiches and wraps (Naidre's), and plenty of baked goods/breads/cheeses/cured meats (Union Market, Grab).
I think we're really lacking when it comes to salads. A place that has a salad bar or a chopped salad place would be most welcome. My only request: for the love of god, please be creative with your toppings and offerings. Fresh and healthy: quinoa salads, whole grain salads, bean salads, tofu and the like would get me coming back over and over. Whole Foods does this pretty well at their self-serve salad bars. I think panini would also work well in this type of place... I agree that it should be simple but high-quality ingredients. Something inspired by Eataly, for example.
On a totally separate track, I'd love to have some good, quick, casual Mexican. Tacos, burritos and the like. Note that I'm NOT talking about a place like Moe's that slops stuff onto your burrito. Thinking more along the lines of a good Northern California burrito joint.
And, because I can't let this opportunity pass, for the love of god, please pick a good name for your place and design the establishment with an eye towards creating a warm and welcoming place. We've seen too many places die after a half-baked concept, a bad name, or an unwelcoming space.
Best of luck!
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create a food by the lb place.
Like those in Manhattan.
....7th Ave could support it.
Like the food bar in Whole Foods at Union Square to make the organic people happy
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8thandPrez what type of atmosphere are you looking for? Can you give me an example of a place that totally turns you off.
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As for an Italian deli, there is Russo's at 7th and 10th-11th. Of course there's nothing wrong with more than one type of establishment, but again it sounds like this would be close.
Also, I'd be happy for a salad place as well, which was mentioned by some other posters. The new Park Slope Eatery makes salads like that, but I think it's the only one in the neighborhood. Also, I never see that place very busy so I'm wondering how long it's going to last.
And if the Grecian Corner isn't returning to it's old spot, nothing should. It should remain a hole in the neighborhood's commercial real estate - just like the hole it made in my heart by leaving.
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