Prospective Park Place Pawnshop! - Near Franklin Avenue.
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This past weekend a 1'x2' Roland amplifier was stolen from one of my neighbors on the first floor of my building. You wouldn't just happen to have one is stock to replace it would you?
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urbanexplorer, check your PM box. ....but no offense taken if you are not interested.
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Roland amplifier if one should show up you will be the frist person i will let know
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steel man did your parents teach you if you have nothing nice to say you should keep the steel over your mouth it might help you in the long run
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Notice, good people, he doesn't deny it.
Booklaw, don't go 'all NPR' on CHJ. Be 'tolerant' of his flouting the rules of this universe as well as the rules of the English language. I know he is hard to 'tolerate', and to 'take seriously', but, please do it for the giggles...
As long as he doesn't start talking about Muslims redeeming electronics and gold, we should be alright.
CHJ, you talk pretty some time?
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MHA
I DONT KNOW WHO YOU THINK YOU ARE I AM SURE YOU WANTED TO BE A WRITER AD IT SEEMS YOU NEVER MADE IT MOST OF YOUR STUFF IS BS I am sure when you write you are the biggest joke to this community and I am 100% sure that most people are sick of reading your non-sense and stupidity so do us a favor stop posting adds -
Oh this is wonderful. This is good stuff CHJ! Please, more, more, please! You do 'talk pretty some time'!
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Sorry to tell you I have better things to do with my time then write BS all day
Enjoy your day
Happy holiday
If you have anything you want to sell don’t be shy we pay top dollar -
Okay, see you in 5 minutes. I have an electronic dictionary you can have.
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Mod Note:
We are about 5 figurative minutes away from closing this thread, due to the decreased level of civility here. Too many people baiting CHJ, and too much incivility in CHJ's responses.
CHJ, I remind you of what I wrote earlier... resist the temptation to get nasty... or you will no longer have the opportunity to do so.
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While MHA and Crow Hill Jewelry are a bonding
and the mods consider a mod-ing,Whynot is a stirring.
For all the whos in whoville
I thought I would share this photo taken earlier today.
...to denote just how far, this conversation may be going astray.
Twas a scary scene indeed.
OMG! A neighborhood so rough that I was afraid to take out my camera for this screed.
Yes, the thieves of the Financial District they abound
When I think hard-core crime, this is ground!
Crack heads be everywhere in their suits and their ties.
and folks like whynot taking pictures on the fly....
(my apologies to the late Dr Seuss)
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MHA
I DONT KNOW WHO YOU THINK YOU ARE I AM SURE YOU WANTED TO BE A WRITER AD IT SEEMS YOU NEVER MADE IT MOST OF YOUR STUFF IS BShahahaha
Be 'tolerant' of his flouting the rules of this universe as well as the rules of the English language. I know he is hard to 'tolerate', and to 'take seriously', but, please do it for the giggles...
get over it! you are INTOLERABLE.
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CHJ,
Just sent you a PM. Please check.
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Okay, no more baiting from me. I want this to last a long time. I am certainly guilty of that here.
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I also want this to last a long time.
....if we can, let's put aside the fact that the owner of this business dislikes the segment of the community that successfully prevented him from opening a pawn shop.
Let's put aside any positive or negative feelings we may have about the mural.
(try, readers, try!)
How much control should local communities have over their local community?
As it spruces up the surroundings and brings new businesses to Franklin Avenue, should CHCA also gain the "right" to determine which businesses find it attractive and choose to open up shop?
....or should such authority remain with the city council via the DOB and Department of City Planning?
Why or whynot?
[note: I would like to avoid a discussion as to whether CHCA has the right to protest the business or the landlord. ...I strongly believe it has the right]
[note: I would like to avoid a discussion as to whether the landlord has the right to rent to whomever s/he chooses ...I strongly believe s/he he has that right]
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Hey, I just got very timely mail!
Greetings Everyone,
Please join us
this Tuesday 12/21 at 7:30
at our December meeting
(LaunchPad 721 Franklin Avenue)
and celebrate the Holiday Season with usWe will be taking nominations for the 2011 Board of Directors.
Only current members may participate in the nomination/election process.
You are welcome to fill out an application and join on Tuesday ($30/household, $125/merchants).
To serve on the Board of Directors, one must be a member and have been active in the Association for a year.Refreshments will be served
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stay up to date, visit our:
website - www.crowhillcommunity.org
facebook page - http://tinyurl.com/op5l5o
blog - http://chcabklyn.blogspot.com/Crow Hill Community Association
790 Washington Avenue, Ste #208
Brooklyn, NY 11238
718-228-7928if you wish to be removed from our list, please hit reply and put "remove" in the subject line
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Okay, no more race baiting from me. I want this to last a long time. I am certainly guilty of that here.
fixed
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Must we start this? Seriously, must we? So you take something I say, intentionally alter it, and for what purpose, to give the impression I said something I did not say...
Ah well, I guess I can be tolerant of it. I guess you perceive me as one who is engages in 'race baiting' whatever that is... Cool. That's how discourse is maligned. As I've said in other posts, ad hominem is the tool of those who DON'T want discourse.., You engage in it a great deal, mr. met.
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i would like to join and be a merchants member and bring in a check is that ok even duo i am not wanted in the community
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That's how discourse is maligned. As I've said in other posts, ad hominem is the tool of those who DON'T want discourse.., You engage in it a great deal, mr. met.
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crow hill jewelry wrote: i would like to join and be a merchants member and bring in a check is that ok even duo i am not wanted in the community
See you there.
I think it would be good for you to join, and perhaps you will realize that not everyone in Crow Hill is trying to get rid of you, especially now that you appear to be complaint with local laws and regulations.
As per http://www.crowhillcommunity.org/mission.shtml, the organization's
mission is:"The mission of Crow Hill Community Association is to provide leadership, guidance and assistance to the residents and merchants working collectively to resolve issues facing our community."
The organization's accomplishments include:
Over the years we have:
Partnered with police for a safer Franklin Avenue.
Made the sidewalks pedestrian friendly by commissioning curb cuts for seniors and strollers.
Championed for cleaner water by changing sewer lines.
Planted dozens of trees and planter boxes along Franklin Avenue for a greener environment.
Petitioned for historic street light posts along Franklin Avenue.
Coordinated financing to upgrade storefronts and security gates.
CHCA is a small, nonprofit, self-help organization comprised of residents and merchants living and working in the Crow Hill area of Crown Heights, Brooklyn. The organization has great aspirations and has made a major difference in promoting the development of Crow Hill with a focus on Franklin Avenue between Eastern Parkway and Atlantic Avenue. The group has a wealth of creative ideas with which to invigorate this vital community, and is committed to rebuild Crow Hill with integrity, commitment, and quality.As a non profit organization, CHCA has no political alliances nor does CHCA make political endorsements. CHCA does work in cooperation with all of our elected officials.
As CHCA moves towards our goal of improving the community, from time to time, we invite our representatives to meetings in an effort to provide a forum for our members to voice their concerns.
Your business, like all of the legal business on the avenue, likely has no problems with its accomplishments or its mission.
I believe a diverse association should welcome all members who agree with its overall mission, even those who do not agree with specific goals or tactics. There will be some things everyone agrees on, and some we don't.
Afterall, there is no rule that we have to like each other to coexist.
...but I do look forward to hearing about whether the leadership is receptive to your membership application.
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...but I do look forward to hearing about whether the leadership is receptive to your membership application.
Does a Merchant Assoc. have to accept all legal merchants in their district?
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What has DISTRACTED discourse is ad hominem and white male arrogance about 'tolerating' me and 'taking [me] seriously'.
I'm confused by this. Why does his arrogance have a color and a gender?
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Reading that list of things that CHCA has done from clean water, trees and "upgraded" store fronts...omfg. Dismal failure if that was your goal. Walking from Atlantic toward Eastern there are lots of empties,absolutely none with upgraded anything. The curb cuts were done to comply with a federal lawsuit files by dozens of organizations for ADA rules. No group of pro stroller advocates was part of any suit. The jewelry guy going to a holiday get together w a check in hand is a recipe for disaster. Read what they believe has happened and you can see that most of the CHCA is living in some type of dream. Cleaner water..I mean really. And please show me which non-advoctaed wheelchair/walker curbs are not modified. Total and complete BS.
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I'm confused by this. Why does his arrogance have a color and a gender?
This should be good.
While you're at it, please go into how you deduced that i'm a white male. Show me the inner workings of your brilliant mind.
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I think we have a good three conversations going on at the moment.
1. Posters who perceive that whenever someone disagrees with MHA, he pretty quickly attributes it to their race.
2. Posters who think CHCA is overstating their accomplishments on their webpage.
3. Posters who wonder about the proper role of a community organization such as CHCA.
I will attempt to only address only #3.
whynot to Jeweler wrote: ...but I do look forward to hearing about whether the leadership is receptive to your membership application.
snowboardqueen wrote: Does a Merchant Assoc. have to accept all legal merchants in their district?
I think we need to be careful not to confuse terms.
In my understanding, NYC has city recognized Business Improvement Districts and these are authorized by the city to charge fees to every business located in their zone for the services that they provide. In this sense, businesses and the BID have no choice, they have to "join" even if that means simply an exchange of $.
CHCA is not a BID. As such, participation by businesses is completely voluntary. I has no official "zone or district"
That said, I'll take a (non-lawyer) crack at answering your question. Although is an essentially a private organization, it could easily be argued that CHCA is in the business of providing a public accommodation.
As such, if the need arose, the organization would need to be ready to prove that it did not deny its services to an entity based on one of NYC's protected criteria (race, gender, religion, etc). The NYC Division of Human Rights investigates such complaints.
Unlike a BID or a community district (such as CD 8), the organization has no formal authority granted to it by the city, and is likely not regulated like such entities.
The organization is simply a group of people who wish to advance the neighborhood. To my knowledge, it is free to define what "advancing the neighborhood" means and work on its own goals. ....I suppose this could take the form of denying membership to a legal organization within the area.
Can CHCA deny a legal business the right to join?
I guess so, but would seem to me like a really short-sighted move, and would undermine my perception that it has tried very hard to include as many people, with as many viewpoints, as possible.
As a result of having no outside funding or regulatory authority, this organization exists largely as a result of people's willingness to support it.
....If they were to deny Jewelry store membership, I would perceive it as being similar to them denying me membership, simply on the basis that I disagree with them regarding whether "protesting all businesses who rent from the landlord" is the best use of their resources.
A healthy democracy is full of conflict.
A healthy democracy contains some people and entities that others perceive as a pain in the ass, even though their only offense is disagreeing with them.
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whynot_31 - thank you for taking the time to break down the difference between a BID and a community organization and for your valuable input!
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you are welcome. I'm glad you were able to get thru the typos and missing words.
However, I hope that tonight's meeting actually has nothing to do with the Jewelry and Electronics store.
I hope the leadership gracefully moves the organization on to more pressing issues. I am certainly not bringing the issue of the Jewelry and Electronics store.
BTW, I'll be coming right from work and will likely be only guy wearing a light purple dress shirt. Feel free to stop by and say Hi.
I hope there are holiday cookies.
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Cookies? enable cookies.!
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No cookies. ...but sushi and turkey wraps.
A fine meeting.
Howdy, Stranger!
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