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The official my street is still not plowed/transit update thread - Page 2 — Brooklynian

The official my street is still not plowed/transit update thread

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  • I am supposed to head back to park slope tomorrow after christmas vacation

    will I be alright getting to 13th street btw 8th and 7th ave. I am going to be fine getting from Penn to F 7th ave train but am concerned about my heavy luggage in streets

    i was thinking of pushing my return trip till Monday would any of you?

  • problem with them plows are like city buses. when you see one there are like 3 behind that one on the side street. kinda lame.

  • It's Bloomberg's fault it snowed? I'm sure a mayor seeking reelection would never have allowed that to happen. ](*,)

  • That's just silly... No one said the Mayor caused the snowstorm. But it is the Mayor's responsibility to keep the city running, and to make sure that the necessary systems and assets are in place so that the city will keep running, in spite of torrential rains, lightening storms, or serious snowfall.

    The Mayor had a reputation a a talented business executive, a technocrat who would get things done. This time he totally blew it.

  • so I take it that if you can push back coming to brooklyn for few days you should?

  • Am I the only one who loves all this snow?

    It's like a massive art installation that blanketed everything in sight in white. It makes the neighborhood look different, sound different, feel different. Sidewalks are flanked by walls of snow. Kids are building snow forts in the middle of the street.

    Christo eat your heart out.

  • Hated Rudy but the old combover was great in a snow emergency. Bloomster doesn't like kvetching, and Broadway shows are open, and he's going to one, and stop kvetching already or you'll make him late!

    On the other hand, it's great to not see a moving car or stroller in sight, if just for two days.

  • The one mistake Bloomberg made was not declaring a state of emergency and closing the roads to all traffic save emergency vehicles.... I so totally agree with this statement of what Bloomberg's mistake was!

    Some idiot wrote on my front glass doors in lipstick. (defacing my property)..CLEAR YOUR WALK!... You must be kidding! Yesterday we did a "narrow" path on the sidewalk but it was passable before 10 AM. This morning we had 4 guys (we paid them) completely clear the frontage. I am not a Rudy fan but I felt like I understood HIS problem for a moment! We did the best we could; we created safe passage... but perfect took an extra day!

    Shoot me!

    Probably would have happened if the A hole slogged down 9th street again and they were not satisfied with out shoveling job.

  • will I be alright getting to 13th street btw 8th and 7th ave. I am going to be fine getting from Penn to F 7th ave train but am concerned about my heavy luggage in streets

    Side streets weren't plowed yet (as of this evening), such as 1st, 2nd, etc. I don't know about 13th. It will likely be a struggle in spots.

  • Clearly, the gov saw the weather forecast and said, it's the holidays - they can just wait till the warm front comes at the end of the week to get rid of the snow via meltage

  • After CNN did a report from Park Slope about the blizzard, I saw numerous snow plows in the neighborhood this morning, including one following another down my street while another was sitting on 7th Avenue at the corner. 10th Street has been plowed at least three times and salted. And the stuck bus was extracted from the c/o 9th Street and 7th Ave this a.m.

  • As of 1:34 am Thursday morning, less than half of the blocks in Bed Stuy have been plowed, Nostrand is barely plowed, running one tiny lane at like 2 mph, no B44 bus through here, impossible to call a cab, very difficult to even walk anywhere. On my block there are 2 little stuck buried cars, but then other blocks I just cannot see why they didnt plow. No mail, packages, deliveries, taxis, nothing. I have missed 2 days of work and cancelled everything else for the rest of the year. I will trudge to very local markets to get stuff for New Years meal, but wine is out of the question as I cant get to it, it cant get to me and it is not around here.

  • Union slow down is the reason for the slow snow removal. Thanks.

  • Union slow down is the reason for the slow snow removal. Thanks.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/sanit_filthy_snow_slow_mo_qH57MZwC53QKOJlekSSDJK

  • mayor, mayor, mayor....

    blah, blah, blah...

    i too thought the snow was wonderful. make sure you all stop every once in a while to enjoy life rather than complaining about it. we're not all as important as we think we are.

  • Some of us do not have the Luxury of being able to stay home, be healthy and not need to visit doctors/hospitals, not have to travel to work, be wealthy enough that a week off is not a big deal, or be Stranded away from home with cancelled flights for 4 days now -stuck just trying to get back home to NYC.

  • Sanitation Department's slow snow cleanup was a budget protest

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/sanit_filthy_snow_slow_mo_qH57MZwC53QKOJlekSSDJK#ixzz19c1MhTkQ

    Not that The Post is the bastion of accurate investigative reporting, but still :mrgreen:

  • i suspected as much, like i said in many other post, i live pretty close by the one of their depots. in the past they were normally out and about during the snow. but this time they super delay till we got this mess.

    it should be illegal for public servants to strike against the public.

  • AW,

    Even if they prove that there was an unauthorized job action, I doubt there will be any criminal charges. Such instances are very difficult to prosecute.

    http://www.capitaltonight.com/stateofpolitics/

    Speaker Sheldon Silver is taking a much different view of the NY Post article alleging that certain Sanitation department bosses specifically instructed workers to respond slowly to routes in order to make a point.

    During an interview this morning on “Live from the State Capitol with Fred Dicker” on WDGJ, Silver said he didn’t believe the post story. And when asked about talk of criminal charges, he dismissed it as “hyperbole.” Silver attributed the slow clean up to the size of the storm, and the fact that hundreds of sanitation workers have been laid off over the past year.

  • it should be illegal for public servants to strike against the public.

    It is. Its called the Taylor Law and there are very steep fines and penalties against the unions involved if an illegal job action can be proven including decertification of the union. However, I'll bet dollars to donuts they have a hard time proving that there was a concerted job action, so no penalties will end up being assessed in this case.

  • and you assume my life wasn't impacted by the snow? of course it was. everybody was. but we still need to relax. people miss work. it costs them money. i get it. but seriously, if we can't relax for a day then maybe we ought to change how we're living.

  • Aquaman and et al, I agree.

    However, my thoughts were more along the lines of:

    If people (including the city) are this unprepared for a minor emergency, what will a real emergency look like?

    Think about it. In this snow adventure:

    -Very few people lost power.

    -Many people were out of town, lessening the stress on the city.

    -There was nothing that caused lots of injuries or deaths (like a earthquake, civil disturbance or terrorist event would).

    Yet, many were unprepared:

    -Some lacked basic items like canned goods in their pantry.

    -Some ran out of medications.

    -Few had a reserve supply of water

    -Few had flashlights.

    -Few had a battery powered radio.

    -Few had a wool blanket to get them thru a period in which their building might not have heat as a result of a electricity failure.

    While the city could have done much better in this instance, there may be an instance when the resources of the city are completely overwhelmed.

    ....there are a lot of things people can do to be more self sufficient, and allow the resources of the city to be available to those who truly need need them: The disabled. The old. The absolutely broke.

    http://www.nyc.gov/html/oem/html/get_prepared/ready.shtml

  • that story is ludicrous. One single republican councilman is the entire basis for the whole story.

    In which:

    -bosses were upset that they were being demoted and added to the rank-and-file. the rank and file union members supposedly are acting in solidarity with their management, despite the fact that their union membership grew?

    -management actually ordered the union members to perform a work stoppage/slowdown

    the only thing that makes any sense in the whole article is this:

    Sources said budget cuts were also at the heart of poor planning for the blizzard last weekend. The city broke from its usual routine and did not call in a full complement on Saturday for snow preparations in order to save on added overtime that would have had to be paid for them to work on Christmas Day.
  • If people (including the city) are this unprepared for a minor emergency, what will a real emergency look like?

    We have seen major emergencies, September 11th and the blackout come to mind, and the city handled those pretty well, I think. So I don’t see the incompetency exhibited during this blizzard as a sign of overall incompetency. I think they just dropped the ball and I also suspect that maybe people were on vacation and either couldn’t get back or didn’t want to.

    I wouldn’t be completely shocked if it was an intentional work slowdown, but it just doesn’t make sense to stage a secret protest. Protests are supposed to draw attention to an issue.

    I don’t know where these allegations of a work slowdown first came from, but it really put the sanitation folks in a bad spot. Now they either have to admit it was intentional (if it was) and risk the ire of the public, or deny it, in which case they come across as just being incompetent, lazy boobs.

    Regardless, I feel pretty confident that they’ll be more on the ball the next time we get a big storm. That said, they still need a good bollocking for the crap job they did. That's how you make sure people don't screw up twice in a row.

  • piano wrote: Regardless, I feel pretty confident that they’ll be more on the ball the next time we get a big storm
    whynot adds: "or disaster".

    Ok.

    ...but will the public be more prepared?

  • I don't know about a disaster. But next time they're calling for a 10" or more, I expect to see snow plows out before it stops snowing.

    As for the public, who knows how we will respond. We're supposedly just a bunch of crazy jackals. But then again the public always seems to react much better than the movies expect us to. They always have us turning on each other and beating each other over the head with bats.

    On September 11th I was surprised by how well people reacted. Thousands of people orderly, and somberly, walking from Manhattan to Brooklyn. Strangers handing out bottled water, people looking for places to give blood.

    So the public can rise to the occasion - though I hope I never have to find out again. But at the same time, I was also in London when Diana died, and everyone just went ape shit. It was pretty creepy.

  • yup, mentally we've been quite calm.

    ....I just think people could do a lot more to not have to depend on the government. ...but do not.

    [of course, emergencies, such as those that REQUIRE 911, are different].

  • Granted, we haven't run around killing each other, but I have been very disappointed in how the public responded to this.

  • The NYC storm as per the Taiwanese


  • cool video of the storm by a pro


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