Grand Prospect Hall peition

fafner · February 2011

Hello.

Apologies if this has been posted, but I did a search and couldn't find it. As many of you know, Grand Prospect Hall has started the motion rolling to possibly ask the city for a spot variance to build a 11 story hotel with a garage for 400 cars in their current parking lot. As part of this project they will be demolishing two houses on 16th street to make a freight and delivery entrance for trucks.

As residents of the surrounding area after fighting for many years to get the zoning regulations put in place to prevent large out of context condominiums from sprouting up in our neighborhood we are trying to show the city that regulations are there for a reason and the "spot rezoning" of this property should not be allowed.

Basically a spot rezoning is a way to get around the due process of the height and size regulations and would allow this building to be built through a loophole.

As concerned residents of the area we have posted a petition that we are circulating that outlines in detail some of our concerns about the plan. To be clear, we are not against the owners of GPH building, we are just requesting the building be in context with the neighborhood and the impact of such a building be understood before it is permitted without a study.

The online petition is here. Even if you do not want to sign it, I urge you to look through it to see the points we are raising as they impact not only the surrounding area of the project, but could serve as a loophole for other buildings in your area that could utilize the same tactic.

[mods: It would be great to link this to the greenwood heights forum as well if possible]

stoney stomp · February 2011

Signed - happily.

booklaw · February 2011

by me also.

reggi · February 2011

This is just too much of a large scale project, for our neighborhood. Just thinking about the sewage alone,

is troubling. I signed it earlier today, but could not see how many signatures this petition has

garnered. Keep signing.

metalnyc · February 2011

Hotel should be allowed. Period.

MOD, curious. If if Grand Prospect put a petition to allow the hotel, would you pin that as well?

fafner · February 2011

Metalnyc, just to clarify, the petition isn't against the hotel, it is against a non-contextual building that is outside the permissible zoning law.

booklaw · February 2011

If the hotel were to petition for a back- door zoning variance to allow them to create huge sewage problems, complicate the attempt to cleanup the Gowanus canal, no I personally would not. Perhaps some other mod might. I live in the neighborhood, and will be affected by any mess the new hotel creates.

I say let them go before the zoning board, file their environmental impact statement, and prove their case.

peanuts · February 2011

Signed - with pleasure

drano · February 2011

Not after the way they made my dreams come true.

karl the druid · February 2011

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whynot_31 · February 2011

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karl the druid · February 2011

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veets · February 2011

That Commercial is just too silly! But, The Grand Prospect Hall has provided a service in PS for decades. I can't believe it is that long!

As far as the proposal for changes of this site... too me it is all about the owners making even more money. I salute them for the initial venture, which at that time (the1980's) was monumental but now... just about making more money. I try not to count anyone's money but reality tells me that the owners are well off. But, more is better. I signed petition and will continue to advocate and believe that this is not a good idea.

xlizellx · February 2011

but now... just about making more money. I try not to count anyone's money but reality tells me that the owners are well off. But, more is better.

So you're against people with a good business model expanding it to make more money? Interesting.

But my main question for that argument is, is there already a hotel very close by? I know when planning my own wedding many guests (understandably) didn't want to travel between reception(open bar) and hotel(bed). If they see that people who may have family/friends not from Brooklyn want to have a wedding there there may be a need for a hotel.

I get the argument about height, sewage, traffic, etc. - but them just wanting to "make more money" and therefore its bad? I don't really get that.

booklaw · February 2011

Nothing is wrong with wanting to make more money... unless the greed motivates them to cut corners on compliance with zoning laws and create undesirable consequences such as increased sewage overflows into the Gowanus, etc.

fafner · February 2011

There are 4 hotels within a 1 mile radius of the proposed hotel for a total of 390 rooms.

This proposed hotel is bigger then the 4 of them combined.

best western prospect park hotel 99 rooms

sleep inn 72 rooms

la quinta inn 72 rooms

hotel le blue 48

drano · February 2011

MOD, curious. If if Grand Prospect put a petition to allow the hotel, would you pin that as well?

no I personally would not. Perhaps some other mod might. I live in the neighborhood, and will be affected by any mess the new hotel creates.

Maybe you should lay the decision off to a disinterested mod next time around.

booklaw · February 2011

I haven't stuffed any ballot boxes lately... I'm merely affording people the opportunity to express their opinions if they so choose. I don't see the harm in that.

From your comments, and specifically your desire to prevent people from having the continuing opportunity to sign the petition, it sounds as though you are a whole lot more interested in this matter than I am.

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