fishers and the coffee shop
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whynot_31 said:
yes, it is basically SURROUNDED by six, 12 story buildings.....they did their research.
Let's just hope that the built-in business isn't enough for them to stop trying.
Dry goods are relatively easy - you just have to have it in stock and at a reasonable price. It's the produce and meat that really suffers in the immediate area. I still can't bring myself to buy meat at NSA (former C-Town) - I did once, recently, and I was turned off... and it's not like I have lofty standards as far as ground beef is concerned. Produce... it's hit-and-miss at best, in the area.
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yes, it is basically SURROUNDED by six, 12 story buildings
yea, and there is another huge hospital building close to being redone literally right behind the Compare Foods. add the diner on the corner, and that block is really going to transform, hopefully by the time the weather warms up.
add to that the high-rise condos on bergen b/w classon and franklin and the new building on bergen b/w classon and grand.
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Yeah, the Fishers guy has always kind of rubbed me the wrong way, too. I respect his presence in the neighborhood, but was totally turned off by the whole coffee-shop wars on this site last year. I expect I'll divide my grocery shopping between the new Fishers and the new Compare, assuming the prices are comparable.
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As described by all, the opening of Compare will once again put Adam Smith's invisible hand to work.
Note: the hand isn't perfect, but it often does good work.
....let's see if Tony's new store will be enough for him to survive the new, more competitive marketplace.
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As described by all, the opening of Compare will once again put Adam Smith's invisible hand to work.
Note: the hand isn't perfect, but it often does good work.
....let's see if Tony's new store will be enough for him to survive the new, more competitive marketplace.
while Compare is surrounded by big apartment buildings, Fisher's is a block from the subway. i think both are in good locations and will flourish. i'm more interested to see what effect Fisher's has on Pine Tree Deli and Nam's.
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Oops.
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Tony seems to understand that if people can buy heavy bags of "normal goods" (canned goods, frozen stuff, Orange juice, etc) close to their apartment, they will.
...yes, this is likely why he decided to go to head to head with Pine Tree and Nam's.
Assuming one gets off the subway and walks toward the hospital buildings, Pine Tree and Nam's remain closer to "home".
....people don't like to drag even their "low weight" organic, high priced goods further than they have to.
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Hello everyone. Looks like we will be opening around the first week of April. I hope every one will be very pleased with the store when its finished. We will be offering a full line of groceries (organic and conventional), dairy, frozen,floral, and a full scale produce dept at everyday low prices. I hope to have the store open 24 hour, seven days a week. If not we will most likely close 12 midnight. I have used the time off to open relationships with new suppliers. I am very pleased with the partnerships that I have made, and they are very excited about featuring their products in our community. As a customer you can expect the finest service and freshest product in the new store. I invested in a pos system to help track inventory and eliminate out of stock items. I hope to partner up with pushcart and groupon to offer further savings to the public. As always its an honor to serve the people of Brooklyn. TF
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Best of luck, Tony. Been enjoying sneaking peaks at your work in progress, looking forward to shopping there once its opened.
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Fisher’s Supermarket – Revamped & Restocked – A Changing Store In An Ever Changing Community.
Tony was kind enough to go into specific details of what the Revamped Fisher's will be all about.
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I'm glad he has chosen to stick with the changing neighborhood, and adapt his business model to the more competitive environment.
I hope he gets rich.
...I wonder what will happen to the bodegas at Franklin and Lincoln, and Franklin and St. Johns.
Will their owners have the skills, resources and work ethic to adapt to this rendition of the ever changing 'hood?
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I don't think they'll adapt, and further don't think they'll need to. There is certainly still a market for venues such as those.
Tony's competitors are more along the lines of Nam's/Pine Tree and the new place that opened up further west on Washington, Compare.
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Yes, we've jabbered about those places.
So, you believe that the ungentrified streets of Lincoln and St. Johns will remain ungentrified and continue to provide an adequate customer base for these bodegas?
I agree.
....but could the owners of the bodegas make MORE if they improved their stores.
...and, -even if they wanted to- do the owners have the skills and resources to improve their stores?
I perceive Tony as having a skill set and resources that many along the avenue lack.
(and to think that Tony says we don't say anything nice about him, hmph)
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there's a new bodega opening up where that suuuuuper gross 24-hour pizza/chicken/garbage place was directly across the street from Fisher's. Wonder what sort they'll be.
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Hopefully the sort that will not tolerate people selling things in micro glassine bags out front.
Hopefully the sort where one can buy a pint of OJ and a egg and cheese sandwich for a total of $4.25.
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It may not be a fair comparison.., but I wish more corner stores/bodegas in our neighborhood looked like 5th Ave. Market in my old neighborhood.
I don't understand dirty, filthy stores in general.., but I'm noticing with bodegas it seems like a given. I don't understand how that benefits the owner?
I also don't understand bodegas profit structure. I refuse to shop in them.., but the few times I did venture in.., everything seemed to be priced very low.
So do those small stores sell very high volume? Who's their customer base and why?
Can they purchase equivalent items at the discount stores and Fisher's?
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Lottery tickets, cigarettes, beer, and junk food are high profit items.
But even so, I can't imagine running a bodega is profitable.
Some places supplement their earnings thru drug sales, but not most.
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whynot_31 said:
Lottery tickets, cigarettes, beer, and junk food are high profit items.If that's their main profit, bodega's - especially the disgusting ones - could be out of business soon if they don't re-think their model.
All Fisher's has to do is stock those items, as Fisher's will be 24/7, so the bodegas will have no longer have an hrs. of operation advantage.
Perhaps if the the new "Deli-Bodega" opening directly across the st from Fisher's is clean and friendly and their hot-food is affordable as in your previous example:
"the sort where one can buy a pint of OJ and a egg and cheese sandwich for a total of $4.25"
- then the new "Deli - Bodega" in combination with the revamped Fisher's may force the other bodega's in the area to literally clean up their game.
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Bodegas often disappear when such options appear, but all neighborhoods in NYC seem to have them in some form.
A few will go under, and a few will survive.
I'll shed very few, if any, tears.
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SnowboardQueen said:
If that's their main profit, bodega's - especially the disgusting ones - could be out of business soon if they don't re-think their model.All Fisher's has to do is stock those items, as Fisher's will be 24/7, so the bodegas will have no longer have an hrs. of operation advantage.
Pie in the sky. These bodegas are not in competition with old, and especailly not new, Fishers. Tony's place doesn't sell cheap 40's or "reservation" smokes at discount prices if you're in the know. And I don't recall Fisher's having quite as much junk food stocked as the local bodegas tend to.
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I just spoke with Tony this morning. Great news for everybody!! Tony said as part of the new look at Fisher's he is making sweeping changes to customer service. Any order over
40 dollars that includes cat food,dog food, big bag of potatoes or rice, or heavy cat litter will be delivered free!!I couldn't believe it. Also if you buy 1 six pack of craft beer at the regular price he will throw in a small bag of chips, buy a whole case, you get it delivered, with chips and 4 Slim Jims to make a complete meal..wow! Tony is pulling out all the stops and really upping the grocery game here in CH. Thanks Tony you are the greatest
*I may have got some of the details wrong but you get the idea, Tony said feel free to ask any question -
I was literally just talking to my husband about the amazing-ness of our small college town for undergrad -- we could call "Campus Beer" and cases/kegs would be delivered for no extra charge -- and they delivered until 2am (closing time in PA). It was amazing. Hopefully Tony gets good full-cases then. Cause while I love the place on Washington Ave (Beer and Soda), I sometimes can't carry the case myself and need to drink!
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Lol. Here we go again. I never had the pleasure of meeting the catwalker person, so this conversation never happened. Although catperson gave me some good ideas. Delivery for customers would not be a problem either in-person or phone in. As far as the small bags of chips and slim jims are concerned I always left that business for the bodegas and I always will. So sorry on that.
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Ha! Maybe she was talking to your brother, Tony.
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