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Questions for youz guyz about stores in PH — Brooklynian

Questions for youz guyz about stores in PH

journob
edited November -1 in Prospect Heights
Hey I am a journalist doing a story about retail in PH for the Real Deal magazine (www.therealdeal.net).
I read a few of the threads and wanted to ask whomever wants to answer a couple of questions--
--are there enough food shopping choices in the neighborhood? I saw a spirited debate on Met foods and on the store on Flatbush that charged different prices. Is buying groceries a problem in PH/
--Clothing/shoes--there are three choices I know of in PH proper--Red Lipstick, Sole and Pieces. Do you need more? Or are you content to shop elsewhere in the city (and on Flatbush Ave.?) Also, no men's clothing stores...
--Eating out--how are the choices? And is it true that the local African American/ Caribbean poplulation tends to favor different locales than the newby-excuse me for saying, mostly Caucasian emigres to the neighborhood? (Okay don't all slam me at once, but is it true?)
--Will Forest City Ratner help or hurt retail in your area do you think?
If you want to email me offlist, or have me call you, pls. email me at [email protected]. And yes I spent about 6 hours in the area yesterday.
JB

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  • Subject: Re: Questions for youz guyz about stores in PH

    JournoB wrote: Hey I am a journalist doing a story about retail in PH for the Real Deal magazine (www.therealdeal.net).
    I read a few of the threads and wanted to ask whomever wants to answer a couple of questions--
    --are there enough food shopping choices in the neighborhood? I saw a spirited debate on Met foods and on the store on Flatbush that charged different prices. Is buying groceries a problem in PH/
    --Clothing/shoes--there are three choices I know of in PH proper--Red Lipstick, Sole and Pieces. Do you need more? Or are you content to shop elsewhere in the city (and on Flatbush Ave.?) Also, no men's clothing stores...
    --Eating out--how are the choices? And is it true that the local African American/ Caribbean poplulation tends to favor different locales than the newby-excuse me for saying, mostly Caucasian emigres to the neighborhood? (Okay don't all slam me at once, but is it true?)
    --Will Forest City Ratner help or hurt retail in your area do you think?
    If you want to email me offlist, or have me call you, pls. email me at [email protected]. And yes I spent about 6 hours in the area yesterday.
    JB
    There are plenty of choices for food shopping. The question is quality of selection - although, I'm pretty sure most people can get what they want.

    No men's clothing? Not true. All three stores you mentioned have men's clothing/shoes. There is also a clothing store on Pacific, between Underhill and Washington, although I've never been in there.

    Eating out - I can't address what you're talking about.

    It does seem like you might be trying to fan the flames a bit with all of your questions.
  • Subject: fanning the flames

    Brookfetish--
    you wrote about fanning the flames: Maybe, though I did get that information from observation but by talking to shop owners, and some were a little more direct in what they said. I didn't even think of it before I came into the project...
    JB
  • Subject: Re: fanning the flames

    JournoB wrote: Brookfetish--
    you wrote about fanning the flames: Maybe, though I did get that information from observation but by talking to shop owners, and some were a little more direct in what they said. I didn't even think of it before I came into the project...
    JB
    I hope your piece is more clearly written than your posts! :roll:
  • Subject: Re: Questions for youz guyz about stores in PH

    JournoB wrote:
    --are there enough food shopping choices in the neighborhood? I saw a spirited debate on Met foods and on the store on Flatbush that charged different prices. Is buying groceries a problem in PH/
    There are enough stores to choose from; I just get annoyed by the fact that each individual store sometimes doesn't have enough selection. If I'm cooking something elaborate, I often have to go to a second grocery store to pick up one or two additional items.
    --Clothing/shoes--there are three choices I know of in PH proper--Red Lipstick, Sole and Pieces. Do you need more? Or are you content to shop elsewhere in the city (and on Flatbush Ave.?) Also, no men's clothing stores...
    Clothing is something that I don't see much sense in shopping for locally. There's some discussion of that issue here: http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1476
  • JournoB, are you the woman who just came in my shop {RedLipstick on Vanderbilt} and told me you were from Columbia Journalism School? If you are, and you print anything I said, I will sue you for lying to me to get information, as well as call your boss at Real Deal magazine and try to get you fired. I'm not joking. :x
  • sje wrote: JournoB, are you the woman who just came in my shop {RedLipstick on Vanderbilt} and told me you were from Columbia Journalism School? If you are, and you print anything I said, I will sue you for lying to me to get information, as well as call your boss at Real Deal magazine and try to get you fired. I'm not joking. :x
    I know a good lawyer. :wink:
  • the ratner thing will only do one good lousy thing and that is to build where the transit hole is right now. other wise its not nessary.
  • Subject: reply to woman at Red Lipstick

    No I am not the person who came into your shop: you were closed on Monday.
    I guess you will have to sue someone else.
  • Subject: Re: reply to woman at Red Lipstick

    JournoB wrote: No I am not the person who came into your shop: you were closed on Monday.
    I guess you will have to sue someone else.
    Oh, really? But I was open on Saturday and Sunday. Most of the shops on Vanderbilt are closed on Monday, so I doubt you went around speaking to paople then. Rest assured I will be monitoring that whatever you write for Real Deal has absolutely nothing said by me or anything about my shop. I also told that woman to post here for local opinions, and here you are, just two days later, asking the exact same questions! What an amazing coincidence.

    Better take that "Ethics in Journalism 101" class again at "Columbia".
  • Subject: Response to Red Lipstick

    Hi Red Lipstick--
    I came around on Monday. I did not know that the shops were closed on Monday. That is particular to your neighborhood I guess.

    I actually did write you an email or call you on Tuesday, but you did not answer. I was hoping for a nice interview with you, which is a shame because I love the stuff you have online.
    Columbia journo students are frequently asked to cover specific neighborhoods. I am surprised that student did not give you her name or contact. We are not the same person.
    JB
  • How interesting, because I just spoke to your editor on the phone, and he confirmed that you went around last weekend. If you want to come by and introduce yourself to me, because I will recognize you, I will be happy to apologize here if I am wrong. But I don't think I am.
  • Who needs soap operas?!?! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
  • there are enough shops and enough articles about our ever popular neighborhood. maybe some articles should be written on other neighborhoods and direct the attention there... how about brownsville, they could use some money in their neighborhood for their school district - if only it worked that way.
    :roll:
  • Subject: hey again

    what is the name of this person?
    Maybe he sent one of the interns to do the same story. (I'll kill him)
    It wasn't me, sorry.
    I would be happy to send you a photo!
    And I still want to interview you
    JB
  • I just checked Columbia Journalism School's website, and classes for most students are not even in session yet, and most of them have not even started for the semester. So, is there a professor sending a "student" out on a field assignment with less than 5 days worth of instruction, or none at all? I seriously doubt it. Face it, you've been BUSTED. Thank you for the kind comments, but I have no interest in being featured or included in a Real Estate 'zine. Thanks anyway. :roll:
  • Yes at this point I will not mention your store
    Best of luck
  • best drama of the day :). you could always interview me ;).
  • Subject: UPDATE

    JournoB did indeed leave me a message on the shop machine. As strange as it is, I was actually approached by 2 separate journalists one day apart, the one on Sunday was NOT JournoB, speaking with her editor again, I now definitelly believe that. The woman on Sunday asked the EXACT same questions, with the same inflections and other subtle similarities. A day after I told her to post here, JournoB posted, with the very same questions. Go Figure.

    JournoB, I sincerely apologize for thinking Sunday's reporter was you. It was not.

    I have spoken with JournoB's editor a second time, and all is well. As a result, I did consent to be interviewed by JournoB for this story, I feel bad about the mixup, but how damned weird is this story already? Jeez. sigh.
  • Hey that's what being a crabby native is all about.
  • Lipstick: thanks for the so kind reply!
    Yours Truly JournoB :D
  • Is it bad that I wanted a Perfect Storm-type ending and not a You've Got Mail-type ending? D'oh!!!
  • Let that be a lesson that not everyone is out to get the people on this board. Now, maybe this poor person can get some real comments about the retail environment in the neighborhood. Not to be mean, but after all that flaming, and as a former writer, I don't think I'd give Red Lipstick a mention, despite the kind and sincere apology.

    Just saying...

    So, here are my personal comments to Journo B's questions...

    1) I think the Farmer's Market at GAP is a godsend. If it weren't for the Market, there'd be no decent place around here for fresh veggies (why are the veggies in supermarkets so so bad???). That being said, the Met Foods on Vanderbilt and the Key Food on Flatbush are great for staples and Delicacies is great for cheese and gourmet food stuffs. However, a proper butcher's is what this neighborhood really needs. We have to trek to Los Paisanos on Smith Street for any meat-related products.
    2) Not enough clothes shopping options, although Pieces has great stuff for men & women. Not sure if we need those little clothing boutiques anyway though - Park Slope is inundated with them. And I can just shop there or in Manhattan...
    3) The eating out choices are pretty decent, but we need more take-out options of the cheaper and ethnic variety (sure there's Islands and Joy Indian, but what about Thai? Vietnamese? good Chinese?)
    4) the Ratner mess is gonna be hell... chain stores/ restaurants galore...
  • The grocery stores have improved tremendously in terms of quality and selection in the 10 years I've lived here, but still aren't great and so I shop at the Park Slope Food Coop and/or the Farmer's Market.

    There are more and more restaurants, but I also agree with the post saying there's not enough (good) cheap takeout/affordable sit-down places. I haven't been to most of the new restaurants in the neighborhood because they're kind of pricey.

    And of course Atlantic Yards will change the neighborhood, but the full impact of it will not be felt for awhile, and in the meantime PH is already changing very fast. I'd say a more immediate question is how all the new condo developments will change things once people start moving in--that's going to happen a lot sooner than Atlantic Yards.
  • Asil wrote: I'd say a more immediate question is how all the new condo developments will change things once people start moving in--that's going to happen a lot sooner than Atlantic Yards.
    This is a very interesting question.

    Part of the answer may lie with whether they end up getting sold or converted to rentals.
  • daisyh wrote: Let that be a lesson that not everyone is out to get the people on this board. Now, maybe this poor person can get some real comments about the retail environment in the neighborhood. Not to be mean, but after all that flaming, and as a former writer, I don't think I'd give Red Lipstick a mention, despite the kind and sincere apology.
    well, as a former (award winning) journo turned artist, this would make me want to get in and interview the red lipstick lady even more. she's got some moxie, sticks up for herself, and follows her gut when things seem fishy. i like that.
  • stores in the nabe that I frequent:

    the met on vandy & the key food on flatbush - both decent places to pick up my major staples of cheese, diet coke & bread. also they usually have fresh lazy bitch salads.

    natural heights - cat food, household goods, paper goods, beauty products. I used to go to yaba for the household, paper & beauty stuff but it is WAY far away compared to natural heights. I used to get cat food at the pet store on vandy, but they close an hour earlier than nat. heights (and I tend to show up at nat. heights in the last hour before they close).

    fermented grapes - despite having a higher price than the other liquor stores in the nabe, they don't have a huge percentage of corked bottles, which is what the other liquor stores suffer from (I don't think most liquor stores in the nabe properly maintain their bottles of wine, so the only stuff that tastes decent is the stuff with high turnover, like yellow tail). now that I'm not drinking, I need to see if they'll order a variety of dealcoholized wines for me to try (though the key food on washington does carry fre, the sutter home variety, which isn't terrible). in any case, fg is still a great place to pick up gift certificates for locals and nice bottles to take to dinner parties.

    stores in the nabe I wish I frequented more:

    red lipstick - I wish I could buy all of my clothing there. I'm on the chunky side, though, so I can't. I like to go there for gifts and accessories, though.

    pieces - in addition to the chunky factor, their price point is way higher than my norm. but they have nice stuff, and I wish I could fit/afford their stuff.

    red beri - I've only been in there a couple of times and in addition to having the issues pieces has, it also has a really nasty owner. or shopkeeper. every time I go in I'm greeted with a sneer. le sigh. I could be shopping for my wealthy, skinny friend, ya know.

    housebroken - there are only so many gifts I can buy, and my friends aren't making very many babies, so it's hard for me to shop at this store. but, whenever I need some baby stuff or a nice housewarming gift, this is one of my go-to spots.
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