creepy van guy
Coming home from running this morning, I was yelled at by some creep in a brown beat up van. (16th and 6th ave) he yelled at me saying he'd said good morning to me (a block before) but i didnt respond, and continued yelling at me when i continued ignoring him. (i couldnt understand the rest of what he was saying, and had never heard him say good morning, not that it matters.). i was telling a friend about this and he said he'd seen other comments about this guy. does this sound familiar to anyone?
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No, but that is creepy. But not surprising. That is one thing that really aggravates me -- strange men who try to talk to me and are enraged if I don't respond. There was a man on 7th Ave who started screaming "I hope you die, bitch!" when I didn't respond to his "good morning."
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I guess they figure it's disrespectful for a woman to ignore a man that has condescended to speak to her - either that or they're a bit disappointed that accosting you didn't lead to an immediate sexual encounter...it's all I can think of.
Can you imagine what the conversation would be like if you did respond to these dimwits? I reckon you're doing the right thing, don't let it get to you. -
a friend suggested that when i get heckled, i demand they show me "what they are working with" on the spot. that most of them would be too shocked and caught off guard. The ones who actually did drop their drawers - i would not be able to help but laugh. i havent had the guts to try that yet.
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there is alot of duffs like that in working class areas. i had few words with guys like that before. and they swear girls like the attention and i was like dude. might work with stupid ghetto girls but wont work with educated girls that i see them howler at.
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Drano wrote: I guess they figure it's disrespectful for a woman to ignore a man that has condescended to speak to her - either that or they're a bit disappointed that accosting you didn't lead to an immediate sexual encounter...it's all I can think of.
Sounds right.
I may be a bitch, but I do believe in being polite and neighborly, and 9 times out of 10, if someone passing on the sidewalk says hello, I will say hello back. But I don't believe there is any rule of etiquette that obligates me to respond if a stranger initiates a conversation, and I always try to trust my instincts even if that means that someone thinks I'm a bitch or whatever. But a man in a van? No way would I talk to a stranger yelling stuff from his car. No way. -
I see this a lot...say if a woman is walking in front of me or passing me just as we pass a man/group of males. I must say, and this is coming from a male, that I feel so bad. Bad for the woman, but also for the man/men. I mean really...it's just so lowly and crass. I often sit there and think, you know guy, if you just waved, or offered a slight smile and a "hello" and not come off like a complete creep, she might have said "hi" back or at least given you the time of day. It's really pathetic, and a clear sign of having no game. In the history of men pursuing women, has this tactic ever worked?
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the_dude wrote: I see this a lot...say if a woman is walking in front of me or passing me just as we pass a man/group of males. I must say, and this is coming from a male, that I feel so bad. Bad for the woman, but also for the man/men. I mean really...it's just so lowly and crass. I often sit there and think, you know guy, if you just waved, or offered a slight smile and a "hello" and not come off like a complete creep, she might have said "hi" back or at least given you the time of day. It's really pathetic, and a clear sign of having no game. In the history of men pursuing women, has this tactic ever worked?
It's pathetic and I'm glad you recognize that.
As somebody...rose?...said above...if somebody is friendly and waves or says "hi", I'm almost certain to say hi back.
This just happened to me yesterday in front of Blockbuster (actually, the Rent a Center place next door).
Sadly it happens a few times a week and I'm just sick of it.
If I'm in a safe place, I have been known to say something back to shame them or challenge them, but I do recognize this as being dangerous.
Men, take note, please!
A wave, a smile, a "hi". That's it. Don't get nasty if she doesn't respond. Don't EVER say something about our bodies or body parts ("nice legs/ass/etc."). If you wouldn't want somebody saying it to your mom, your sister or your daughter, don't say it to a stranger on the street! -
the_dude wrote: I see this a lot...say if a woman is walking in front of me or passing me just as we pass a man/group of males. I must say, and this is coming from a male, that I feel so bad. Bad for the woman, but also for the man/men. I mean really...it's just so lowly and crass. I often sit there and think, you know guy, if you just waved, or offered a slight smile and a "hello" and not come off like a complete creep, she might have said "hi" back or at least given you the time of day. It's really pathetic, and a clear sign of having no game. In the history of men pursuing women, has this tactic ever worked?
i dont think it works but maybe in the working class areas of the city does. cause i have seen guys howler at girls there and girls seem to talk to guys in cars and vans e tc... -
I just took the dogs for a walk and this guy says, "That's a beautiful dog." He followed up with, "Just like the owner." I almost laughed out loud. Um, guy, you just called me a beautiful dog, that is not gonna get you anywhere with anyone.
I gave him what Miss Manners calls "the frosty smile," in which the corners of the mouth turn up very slightly while the rest of the face stays motionless. This is useful in many situations and usually deters further attempts at conversation. -
I'm so sick and tired of the things men will say/yell/mutter at me on the street. But worse, for me at least, is when it invariably turns into a racial thing.
I usually let it go, but once they start pulling out the epithets I'm too polite to repeat here about someone of my skin color not giving the time of day to someone with their skin color, I usually lash out. Using the "I'm not responding because you're an asshole, not because of your skin color" isn't really working.
I'd love any suggestions.[/url] -
Yeah, dont get me wrong, I will respond to a hello or good morning or whatever - I mean sometimes people are just being friendly, and sometimes if it's done right it's even flattering. What was more skeevy about this guy, is that I saw him turn down 7th ave as I was crossing it. He then drove around the block and up the street that I was walking down in order to yell at me. What a wacko!
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That is scary. What time of day did this happen?
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if they get obnoxious and vile, if it's daylight, i've been known to ask them if they've got a sister or a mother... and then ask how they'd feel if some stranger said those things to them? usually shuts them up.
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and what's up with the kissy noises? some guy did that not two feet in front of my face the other day, looking me right in the eye. i told him i was not a dog.
sometimes i just want to stop them and say, listen, just tell me, has this EVER worked out for you?
i am very friendly on the street, and will always say hello or thank you when appropriate. but kissy noises? what, am i supposed to roll over? probably beg. -
ladies just tell the jerk offs to pull down their pants and see if its that big and walk away.
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sweet tea wrote: and what's up with the kissy noises? some guy did that not two feet in front of my face the other day, looking me right in the eye. i told him i was not a dog.
i went ballistic on some guy on the subway after making the kissy noises. i screamed will we got to the station, and the moron subway people asked me, "do you want us to get the police?" and i'm all, "yes, i do."
sometimes i just want to stop them and say, listen, just tell me, has this EVER worked out for you?
i am very friendly on the street, and will always say hello or thank you when appropriate. but kissy noises? what, am i supposed to roll over? probably beg.
and the police put the guy onto another train in the other direction, and said solved the problem. -
Eh...I may not be the most sensitive guy in the world, but it's extra depressing when I see guys like this fall back on the, "Oh, people like you make the city an unfriendly place" or, "Oh, I'm just being neighborly, what's wrong?"
C'mon, dude. Lived in New York for 13 years now, and I have NEVER ONCE had some strange guy roll up to me and tell me I was looking sharp, or comment on what a beautiful day it was (just like me, natch) or any other bullshit unless they wanted something like money or a smoke. Pathetic. -
Rose wrote: [quote=Drano]I guess they figure it's disrespectful for a woman to ignore a man that has condescended to speak to her - either that or they're a bit disappointed that accosting you didn't lead to an immediate sexual encounter...it's all I can think of.
Sounds right.
I may be a bitch, but I do believe in being polite and neighborly, and 9 times out of 10, if someone passing on the sidewalk says hello, I will say hello back. But I don't believe there is any rule of etiquette that obligates me to respond if a stranger initiates a conversation, and I always try to trust my instincts even if that means that someone thinks I'm a bitch or whatever. But a man in a van? No way would I talk to a stranger yelling stuff from his car. No way.
I do exactly what Mommy taught me -- never talk to strangers! (Unless it's you all nice folks, here on the Daily Slope Blog) -
raw wrote: [quote=Rose][quote=Drano]I guess they figure it's disrespectful for a woman to ignore a man that has condescended to speak to her - either that or they're a bit disappointed that accosting you didn't lead to an immediate sexual encounter...it's all I can think of.
Sounds right.
I may be a bitch, but I do believe in being polite and neighborly, and 9 times out of 10, if someone passing on the sidewalk says hello, I will say hello back. But I don't believe there is any rule of etiquette that obligates me to respond if a stranger initiates a conversation, and I always try to trust my instincts even if that means that someone thinks I'm a bitch or whatever. But a man in a van? No way would I talk to a stranger yelling stuff from his car. No way.
I do exactly what Mommy taught me -- never talk to strangers! (Unless it's you all nice folks, here on the Daily Slope Blog)
how bout a guy name armchair with candy
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this happened around 7:15am yesterday morning. was out again today, and had no problems. happy to report it was an isolated incident.
i am very curious is any guy has had that actually work. you guys will have to report back if you get any answers on that one. -
One incident was around 1pm and the other around 5pm. Both times there were plenty of people around.
And actually, Brooklyn Potter, I used the "would you like someone to say that to your mother or sister" line BOTH times, but they apparently aren't a "broke-ass cracker wanna be Britney Spears" - how he got that from my work suit (was in Lower Manhattan for that particular one), I'm not sure. Maybe I get the more aggressive jerks because that line doesn't work for me.
If anything, they get more pissed because I had the balls...well...you know, to actually speak back to them.
I know I should just ignore them, but mean people suck. -
broke-ass cracker wanna be Britney Spears
That's just a shame...but par for the course, considering the original tactic to get your attention. We live among simpletons I guess. -
Subject: More creepy guys
Not that van guy but has anyone seen this flasher who rips open his pants in the park, like it's an accident? Scary....
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