Vanderbilt = Smith St?
O FML - this new restaurant: http://nymag.com/guides/fallpreview/2011/restaurants/ilene-rosen/
is apparently planning to open up near my house. Which means that any time we have our back windows open we will hear people dining and drinking (breakfast through dinner plus a full bar are planned) and probably have the smell of grease etc...coming in too.
I did not move to Prospect Heights more than 20 years ago to live on what seems to be turning into the new Smith Street or 5th Avenue.
This makes the drunken men who used to booze it up and yell in that yard (and once waved guns around at each other) seem tolerable in comparison.
Crap crap crappity crap crap.
But venting here does feel good.
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More changes are coming.
The rumoris that the AY parking lot will hold more cars than expected b/c those multicar racks will be installed. Park, dine, see show at arena.
Lots of change headed our way.
If you own, your property values might increase (or at least not drop) due to people wanting to pigeon such a vibrant (aka loud) area.
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"I did not move to Prospect Heights more than 20 years ago to live on what seems to be turning into the new Smith Street or 5th Avenue."
I know! They didn't check with me either when they decided to develop the neighborhood!
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thanks for the perspective, Danae!
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I experienced the joy of a bar moving in under my apartment a while ago on that Vanderbilt strip. I'm still pissed at the fact that they removed all the sound proofing in their ceiling in order to reveal the punched tin. The constant late night smoking and yelling outside my windows was a harsh adjustment. Oh, and how about Tuesday trivia night where there would be tops, ten people at the bar playing, and yet the bartender insisted on using a microphone to read out the questions. The massive increase in vermin, including one of the times I tried to be supportive of the place when I went in for my birthday and found a baby roach in my drink.
I would find myself wide awake, listening to their music at 2:00am on a week night. When I called to ask them to please lower it so I couldn't hear the individual words of the songs either the music was too loud to hear the phone or they refused to answer it. I would sometimes go down and find it was all employees and their friends getting drunk and partying on their own.
Grrrr. The place was so loud so late I couldn't keep an employed roommate. I had to move and I don't miss the place at all. The sad thing is at first I tried to be very nice, but it was almost as if they were trying to drive me into leaving. The majority of the workers were so abrasive and unpleasant they wouldn't even acknowledge my presence when we were walking past each other on the street.
I don't know what I would have done if I had owned the apartment, probably filed frequent noise complaints that I should have filed then, but I hadn't wanted to completely alienate the people in there. It sounds like Vanderbilt ave. is going to be completely intolerable soon.
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If you really miss men yelling, drinking, and waving guns, feel free to move to Brownsville or ENY. No one's stopping you.
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Yah know sarcasm isn't necessary, Jack Krohn. When I moved into the neighborhood over 20 years ago crack vials would crunch under my feet when I left the apartment in the morning and Vanderbilt was full of car repair shops. Not interested in moving back to that era, but would still like it not to be all about the nightlife and drunken revelers weaving and yelling down the street. Would like a nice mellow residential neighborhood.
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GoodProspect said:
Yah know sarcasm isn't necessary, Jack Krohn. When I moved into the neighborhood over 20 years ago crack vials would crunch under my feet when I left the apartment in the morning and Vanderbilt was full of car repair shops. Not interested in moving back to that era, but would still like it not to be all about the nightlife and drunken revelers weaving and yelling down the street. Would like a nice mellow residential neighborhood.In your opinion, how long did the nice, residential era before the tipping point last? Or maybe it's still here in your opinion. Curious since you've been here for 20 years. I've been here for only 2 and have seen the alarming rate of trendy, rapid-fire change in just this short time period.
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I for one say keep em coming. I was thinking to my self last week " you know what? Vanderbilt could really use a raw bar." then I realized cornelious just down the street serves oysters. Hands down best decision of my life was to buy a place here 8 years ago.
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I would say that there was a sweet spot in this neighborhood, starting probably 15 years ago and it perhaps ended three or four years ago. There has been a tipping point. Too many of my long-time neighbors (most of them African American and Caribbean American) have moved out and many, many young hipster types have moved in.
I know it's ridiculous to feel irked about having to sidestep the strollers when I had my own kids in strollers not terribly long ago, but I do feel like Vanderbilt Avenue now reminds me of the East Village back when I was in college - roaming packs of young, inebriated, self-absorbed adults.
On the upside, though, I like the international flavor - many foreign languages being spoken - and many people with a creative bent (writers, visual artists, architects....) seem to have moved in in the recent past.
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It's a restaurant replacing a restaurant...right? And its coming from the chef at City Bakery - who is not exactly a purveyor of the night club scene.
I can see getting upset about an "open till 4 AM" "weekday DJs" kind of place, but this one? I don't think you are going to have to move because of it.
Just curious, but are you bummed about the new ramen restaurant, too?
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If you bought 20 years ago, you should be able to sell for a tidy profit and move to one of those nice neighborhoods Krohn suggested.
Heck, you can probably buy a whole block with the proceeds.
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Not interested in living in Brownsville or East New York. I need to live in Prospect Heights for several different reasons.
This restaurant is going where a black hair salon used to be, not replacing another restaurant.
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i am SO happy this place is opening up! much better than the empty storefront that's been there for how long...? wouldn't it be nice if we welcomed this new business (which doesn't seem particularly targeted to basketball fans, strollers or inebriated hipsters, and may even attract acceptably international creative types, LOL), instead of going all crotchety right away?
if we do, maybe the operators will embrace the neighborhood back, and want to do what the landlord(s) apparently don't: clean the sidewalks, take care of the tree pits, and generally make that stretch of Vanderbilt a nicer place to be. that would be fun.
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I moved from prospect and Vanderbilt about three years ago and I loved my neighborhood!I missed it very much. We're moving back in a few months, but we probably can't afford our old neighborhood anymore... I'm thinkin Crown Heights. I can't believe Tavern on the Dean is gone! Is Soda still there, Beast?, The Met?, that bakery next to the Met that had awesome red velvet cupcakes? Be careful everyone during the hurricane!
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