sounds like an outdoor concert on Prospect place at 2AM!

nobody should be playing that late, don't care if people use cultural events as a excuse.

unless say they are moon worshippers who can only do it at night etc.. other than that, if they can be done normally during the day time. respect everyone else. it makes life easier for everyone.

It will be over soon. People come from all over the world to the festivities this weekend. The rest of the year should be quieter. Though if you are new to the nabe I can imagine you'd be worried... But in this case, if you can't beat em - join em ! I Or you can stay home and sulk.

don't say I didn't warn you

Man opens fire at Brooklyn parade, toll rises to 39 shot since Saturday morning

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/gunfire_interrupts_brooklyn_parade_ra4iBVeaKOdhB5vLKBucaJ#ixzz1X7BPMpW0

A huge smile came to me on my BF's face when we plopped down at home, on the couch, after walking around crown heights and still heard the parade. Awesome. It's a happy sound.

....Santa even comes at the end!

But, as always, I had good time at this year's parade.

Perhaps as a result of the prediction of rain, the event was not super crowded like years past.

Perhaps as a result of not being super crowded and the cooler weather, there seemed to be good vibe in the air.

I also saw a lot more women wearing just pasties as tops. This could have also contributed to the good mood that I and others experienced.

Commissioner of the New York City Police Department doesn't expect much less from this parade:

>>>Kelly said some of the shootings were associated with the West Indian Day festivities.

"Frankly," he said, "this is something that does happen at this parade."<<<

http://online.wsj.com/article/APe3197caf420a4415a3e40dcc5679affd.html

The night goes on?

There was just a shooting at 9:15 PM, near Franklin Avenue

http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/topic/shots#post-740590

A riot is a form of civil disorder characterized often by what is thought of as disorganized groups lashing out in a sudden and intense rash of violence against authority, property or people. While individuals may attempt to lead or control a riot, riots are thought to be typically chaotic and exhibit herd behaviour, and usually generated by civil unrest. However, there is a growing body of evidence to suggest that riots are not irrational, herd-like behaviour, but follow inverted social norms.[1]

Riots often occur in reaction to a perceived grievance or out of dissent. Historically, riots have occurred due to poor working or living conditions, government, oppression, taxation or conscription, conflicts between ethnic groups, food supply or religions (see race riot, sectarian violence and pogrom), the outcome of a sporting event (see football hooliganism) or frustration with legal channels through which to air grievances.

Riots typically involve vandalism and the destruction of private and public property. The specific property to be targeted varies depending on the riot and the inclinations of those involved. Targets can include shops, cars, restaurants, state-owned institutions, and religious buildings.

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot

I think you are the first to use the term "riot" to apply to today's parade, and there is probably a definition out there that could be applied that meets the definition for riot.

While I prefer the term "surge of violence", I wonder what terms the TV and print media will to describe all of today's violent events.....

I doubt they will bother to discuss them as separate incidents; they will instead paint the whole parade as being violent.

...which it wasn't.

Here's a story about carnival that was written after some of the violent incidents, but before tonight's incidents.

Homeowner-

I completely agree, and fear such cycles may be far easier to create than stop.