shots?

that is totally terrible and also really conflicting reports-- one article says 2 shooters were shot dead, cop shot in stomach. now others say shot in arm. and now the one dead is a bystander?

Glad yall are okay, and glad the guy walking his dog got the he'll out of there. Could easily have been me a few hours earlier.

besides getting mugged, i have had a lovely time these last few years in crown heights but i really need to move before next west indian day parade weekend.

so not cool.

3 Fatally Shot and 2 Officers Are Wounded

brooklynleather said:

besides getting mugged, i have had a lovely time these last few years in crown heights but i really need to move before next west indian day parade weekend.

The parade is not my favorite event, but it hardly makes me feel unsafe in the neighborhood. It's a couple of days a year and it's easy enough to avoid. So sorry for the innocent loss of life, but that's one reason I won't sit on a stoop near a busy corner of CHN on Labor Day.

I did notice the huge concentration of police events around the neighborhood on the Gothamist newsmap. I wonder if the parade doesn't make the _rest_ of the city safer for the duration, as all of the troublemakers congregate on Eastern Parkway?

This is a very sad and tragic event that happened on Park Pl between Classon &u Franklin Ave.

My condolences goes all to the families that lost love ones.

Because the shooter was caught, the question I'm now curious about is:

How come anything positive that happens East of Washington Ave (Crown Heights true borders)up to Bedford Ave is hotly championed to have occurred in the Prospect Heights neighborhood, yet

anything negative that happens East of Washington Ave is categorized as having occurred in the Crown heights community?

The double standard, values and assumptions associated with this schizophrenic behavior is simply mind blowing.

Does anyone know if anything has been uncovered by the investigation? Seems like if Leroy Webster fired the first shots, so I'm wondering if there is any news on what the police are shutting off several city blocks to investigate.

Is Franklin open now? What about the Park Place shuttle stop?

So the only block closed is Park between Classon and Franklin? Or is part of Franklin closed also?

Chekhovian said:

Does anyone know if anything has been uncovered by the investigation? Seems like if Leroy Webster fired the first shots, so I'm wondering if there is any news on what the police are shutting off several city blocks to investigate.

Is Franklin open now? What about the Park Place shuttle stop?

There were a lot of shots fired, and I would imagine the police tend to like to account for all of their trajectories and final destinations.

To clarify, I'm not complaining about having a block roped off, I'm asking if there has been any additional information gathered from the investigation?

Indeed.

At first the story was that both "shooters" and a bystander were killed. In addition, two police officers were wounded.

(3 people killed, 2 officers wounded)

Now, Gothamist has updated their version of the story:

The bystander and one of the shooters reportedly died, but one of the "shooters" is presently alive in the hospital.

(2 people killed, one in hospital, 2 officers wounded)

The wounds of the two police officers are said to be minor.

P.S. Gothamist likely got their information from a more established, reputable news source, but they did not list it.

....I suspect it will be quite sometime before we know which guns fired the bullets that killed the bystander, the shooter who died, the shooter who is alive and in the hospital, and the two officers wounded.

trick-

As per this thread Ms. Gay leaves behind a daughter. Donations are being accepted for her daughter, and a community meeting will be held on Thursday.

RE: Christina Johnson, sadly such offensive comments are frequent on the unmoderated websites. Some use their real names, some do not.

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Re: The Post article

NY Post wrote: "Eight officers fired about 70 shots during the shootout"

This would partially explain the intensive investigation xlizellx is seeing and enduring.

Not Brilliant Thoughts:

If there were 8 police officers shooting, and there were two shooters: We could have 10 separate weapons discharged.

Likewise, if the police fired about 70 rounds, how many additional rounds were fired by the shooters? Could those investigating have over 90 rounds to trace?

Yes, this will take a while to sort out.

Ah, forget it. Just saw the sticky with Downward Mutt's obnoxious comment.

whynot_31 said:

Given the number of shots fired, I expect to see some evidence of the firefight to remain even after the police leave; notably chipped paint and concrete from impacts.

more neighborhood charm and character

So, it looks increasingly that Ms. Gay was killed by a police bullet. And is it any surprise, when police feel the need to fire 73 times to hit a single person?

I never understood this. It's so consistent, I have to assume it is part of the training -- when you're firing at someone, don't aim and shoot and see what you've hit, just squeeze the trigger as fast as you can and unload the magazine in your target's general direction.

I would expect a police force that is supposed to deal with highly populated areas where stray shots could very easily lead to tragedy to take a somewhat more conservative approach when using of lethal force.

As they say, "gun control" means hitting your target.