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Park Slope ranked one of the worst neighborhoods for property crime — Brooklynian

Park Slope ranked one of the worst neighborhoods for property crime

dailyheights
dailyheights
edited November -1 in Park Slope

I don' usually post news releases, but when I do...

DNAinfo.com, New York’s leading online neighborhood news source, has released an interactive Crime & Safety Report ranking the safety of every neighborhood in the five boroughs. This unprecedented analysis of data from the NYPD and U.S. Census Bureau reveals startling results, including an increase in murder, rape, and robbery rates for the first time in decades.

Park Slope (http://www.dnainfo.com/crime-safety-report/brooklyn/park-slope) for example, thought to be one of the safer neighborhoods in NYC is actually one of the worst ranked neighborhoods for property crime, ranking 57th out of 69. On the positive side, felony assault dropped 40% from 2009 to 2010.

DNAinfo.com Crime & Safety Report: www.dnainfo.com/crime-safety-report

Video highlighting the report features: http://bit.ly/qRrAsG

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  • armchair_warrior
    armchair_warrior

    people go rob where they think rich people live etc... typical of criminal mind set and its fairly close to poor areas of nyc. easy commute.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    While many NYC thieves have shown a willingness to travel in order to steal, most murderers tend to have an aversion to travel in order to murder.

  • armchair_warrior
    armchair_warrior

    people tend to kill people in disputes and people they know.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Criminologists like to try to think about crime using little models, and variables. Although lots of things cause crime, these criminologists decided to write their paper on the dynamics of crime while examining poverty as a variable.

    Returning to Park Slope, assuming that those convicted of committing property crimes in Park Slope closely reflect those who commit property crime in Park Slope, it would be interesting to see how far they traveled in ordered to commit their crimes.

  • armchair_warrior
    armchair_warrior

    all i see is bullet and done with.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    ....if I was a burglar, I would want to focus on valuable, light items (like jewelry), and avoid trying to steal valuable, heavy items (like 46" TVs).

    To maximize my day, I would pick a neighborhood with good jewelry. I imagine that some neighborhoods have only cheap, gold plated jewelry to steal. I imagine that Park Slope would be a good place to break into a home and steal valuable jewelry.

    I wonder how much of Park Slope's property crime is the result of the burglaries that involve stealing jewelry.

  • armchair_warrior
    armchair_warrior

    if you look at property crime in nyc as whole, you could tell that they are fairly well off and easily for commuters to come and rob those places.

  • dance rehearsal
    dance rehearsal

    This thread really makes me think....

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Thinking is good for us DR!

    Crime is complex stuff.

    Because we are all likely too cheap to pay the $0.99 required to access the study DailyHeights links, lets look at some of the source material they used. Because we are cheap AND lazy, let's just look at two precincts.

    "Well off" Park Slope is in the 78th Pct, which has had 86 incidents of recorded burglary (a type of property crime) so far this year. http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs078pct.pdf

    "Not well off" East NY is in the 75th Pct, which has had 349 incidents of recorded burglary so far this year. http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs075pct.pdf

    At first glance, you could leap to the conclusion that a ENY apartment is WAAAAY more likely to be burglarized than one in PS, and you might even be correct.

    But this would be a dumb method to go about making such conclusions. The intelligent way to go about making such a determination would be to figure out how many households were in each "official neighborhood", then overlay the precinct maps and create burglary : household ratios.

    86:xx

    349:yy

    You would have to determine whether people in ENY were just as likely to report burglary as those who live in PS, and determine if the cops were willing to actually document said incidents in a consistent manner. Otherwise, that the precinct reports may be of no use what-so-ever.

    I assume the folks who published this study underwent a similar process when they created their rankings.

    To my knowledge, the report does not make any conclusions as to WHY neighborhoods have more crime, and I would hesitate to do so given the large numbers of variables (income, type of dwelling, proximity to neighbors, bars on window, valuables, presence of mean dog, doorman building, work from home, door unlocked, visible valuables, unlocked window by fire escape, etc) involved in determining one's individual burglary risk.

    After all, only the criminal actually knows why he picked a specific house to burglarize.

  • homeowner
    homeowner

    Oh come now, Whynot, I can come up with 10 good reasons to burglarize in PS and I'm not even a criminal

    1) Fewer houses with those "ugly" bars on ground level and parlor floor windows (front and back of houses)

    2) More people who work 9-5's so fewer chances of neighbors seeing or hearing anything

    3) Less chance of climbing through a window and meeting an attack dog

    3a)Greater chance that the attack dog is a tiny lapdog or a very friendly big dog

    4) Greater chance of open windows on upper floors next to fire escapes

    5) Greater chances of expensive toys like laptops, ipods, smartphones

    6) Stay-at-home-moms not likely to come out and challenge you in the hallway

    7) Greater chance that neighbors don't talk to one another or know one another's comings and goings

    8) Fewer street patrols by cops means more time to get away

    9) Neighborhood operates on a particular schedule (most people coming and going at set times)

    10) Fewer well lit houses at night

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    I agree, and suspect you were typing that ^^^, as I was simultaneously adding this:

    To my knowledge, the report does not make any conclusions as to WHY neighborhoods have more crime, and I would hesitate to do so given the large numbers of variables (income, type of dwelling, proximity to neighbors, bars on window, valuables, presence of mean dog, doorman building, work from home, door unlocked, visible valuables, unlocked window by fire escape, etc) involved in determining one's individual burglary risk.

    After all, only the criminal actually knows why he picked a specific house to burglarize.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    When I go to ENY, I am impressed (and depressed...) by the level of fortifications households have implemented.

    When I go to PS, I look out of my friends' apartments onto courtyards that have open windows by fire escapes, etc.

    The ENY people might be TOO cautious about becoming a victim of property crime, while the PS people might not be cautious enough.

  • armchair_warrior
    armchair_warrior

    dead last in property crimes, also the fairly expensive areas and close to easy access to poor areas. :p I hate paying for info lol.

    69MidtownOverall safety rank 69

    68Greenwich Village & Meatpacking DistrictOverall safety rank 68

    67FlatironOverall safety rank 65

    66DowntownOverall safety rank 63

    65Chelsea & Hell's KitchenOverall safety rank 61

    64Murray Hill & GramercyOverall safety rank 57

    63Fort Greene & Clinton HillOverall safety rank 64

    62Brooklyn Heights, Boerum Hill & DumboOverall safety rank 60

    61East Village & Alphabet CityOverall safety rank 58

    60GreenpointOverall safety rank 50

    59St. Albans & South JamaicaOverall safety rank 55

    58Midtown East, Turtle Bay & Kips BayOverall safety rank 32

    57Park SlopeOverall safety rank 41

  • dance rehearsal
    dance rehearsal

    What the fuck are any of you even talking about?

    Worst thread ever.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    DR-

    Be patient with yourself DR. You'll get it eventually.

  • armchair_warrior
    armchair_warrior

    Eating in east new york kfc is kinda like a in bank :p.

  • dance rehearsal
    dance rehearsal

    "

    Be patient with yourself DR. You'll get it eventually. "

    God, I hope not.

    Keep talking however... you guys are a pair of real experts.

  • veets
    veets

    Just one thought on why PS seems like a target.."I paid a million Dollars for this floor of this Brownstone so I ran out of money to have custom made window treatments. So, that is why you (thief) can see my 5 thousand dollar TV and all the expensive stuff in here. To support this lifestyle I leave for work at 6AM and come back nice and late to put the lights on so you can case the joint and decide how to get in here and what to steal and its exact location in my home."

  • lillithofarc
    lillithofarc

    Park Slope ranked one of the worst neighborhoods for property crime?

    Finally the media decides to publish the truth. Things are not what they appear to be and the economy is largely to blame.

    WAKE UP!

    As we have all come to learn, Park Slope is quickly becoming the #1 place in Brooklyn to be raped. As a woman, I fear walking the streets at night.

    To the OP, thank you for posting this.

  • witch-king
    witch-king

    I had a grande hazelnut latte stolen right out of my hand at the corner of 7th avenue and garfield.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    whynot wrote: Be patient with yourself DR. You'll get it eventually.

    DR wrote: God, I hope not.

    Keep talking however... you guys are a pair of real experts.

    I know of only two people who can claim to be experts, and they were cancelled.


  • lillithofarc
    lillithofarc

    Witch-King, funny you should mention that but I was at the Star Bucks on 7th ave between 1st and Garfield and someone actually lifted my purse from my chair as I ordered a latte. Just goes to show that even in a coffee house you can't drop your guard.

    What the hell is up with all these criminals in Park Slope all of a sudden?

  • witch-king
    witch-king

    Lillith: that's terrible. But I suspect coffee houses are prime areas for that sort of thing. Not just in the Slope.

    A couple of guys entered my building a few years ago looking to break and enter (a dumb neighbor buzzed them in without asking who it was). Cops were watching them and caught them when they exited the building. The cops said that breaking and entering has become an increasingly popular activity in the Slope.

  • lillithofarc
    lillithofarc

    Well I learned my lesson. Luckily the thief only got away with a half drank bottle of NyQuil, an opened bag of Ricola throat drops and some used tissue napkins full of infectious snot. Praise Nyorai that I had my change purse in hand. I would have paid 100 dollars to see the look on the face of the thief when he finally checked his score.

    A long time resident and neighbor of mine told me that during the bad times burglaries, robberies and thefts increase exponentially. She advised me to put gates on my windows. I might decide to heed her warnings now.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    witch-king said:

    I had a grande hazelnut latte stolen right out of my hand at the corner of 7th avenue and garfield.

    Just before that, Starbucks took your money.

    Which was worse?

    OMG, has anyone else had a store take their money in The Slope?

  • witch-king
    witch-king

    Whynot: lol :-)

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