Parents: Save the sidewalk chalk grafitti for the park.
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whynot_31 said:
so far we have brand new posters Rupaul and Narcoloeptic Abe joining us!Marty would be proud.
west1440, DownwardPuppy, TruthandBeauty, Stretchy, RupaulRox, NarcolepticAbe, QuantumSilence
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i agree with LTSloper.
WSmith, you already got your "yeap" before, why keep on jumping to another different subject? We are talking about kids and their chalk graffiti, wanna give us your piece of mind on that?
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As long as they weren't drawing offensive pictures or writing derogatory things whats the problem? The rain will wash it away. You actually scolded a parent for letting their kid be a kid, you are going to be the laughing stock of your neighborhood, calm the frak down.
The only time I dared to scold a parent for how their children were acting was some stoner dad who was letting one of his children (there were 4 all under 10yrs old) repeatedly kick the metal gate in front of our home while he stood there and hit one of the other kids for trying to run away from him (cant think why). I told him to control his kid (the kicking one) to which he replied to MYOB to which I replied it was my business as it was my property and for him to move along with them which he did.
But to scold a parent for this???? The Grinch ain't got nothing on you.
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Why is it too much to ask to have your child do this kind of stuff on your OWN property?! Why is it that the people in this neighborhood have no common sense or common courtesy? And don't give me this bull that the rain will wash it away. Maybe I should squirt mustard all over your car and say don't worry the rain will wash it away!
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Mustard would stain the car ruining the paint job the sidewalk will recover on its own. A car is property and the sidewalk is not - do you want more reasons why your point is invalid? If the kid tripped you or was in your way maybe maybe then you have a point otherwise you are just being a grouch. As Halloween is coming up I'm sure the kids will remember you with fondness.
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This thread is a prime candidate for White Whine
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Slopeduder-
White Whine and Puckbrooklyn both appear to be on to something.
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Alana said:
Mustard would stain the car ruining the paint job the sidewalk will recover on its own. A car is property and the sidewalk is notExactly.
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I hope the kids become as good as these folks. They do their sidewalk art on public sidewalks throughout the world
I love the lobster about to eat the baby

This fish is also cool

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Have you tried to draw anything legible with sidewalk chalk lately? It's really hard. The colors are all too similar to get any kind of contrast so there goes any kind of shading/shadows. Depending on the grade of the sidewalk/street it's often too bumpy to get a clear line.
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I have not drawn on the sidewalk in quite sometime.
...but even when I drew more often, I never advanced past drawing hopscotch squares.

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Sure it is removable with a hose and water but why should I clean up this mess?
You shouldn't. After a few days and the first moderately heavy rain the chalk is gone. Today's drizzle should handle the erasing duties.
I hope no other blogs pick on this thread because not matter which side you fall on you all sound like douchecocks. Big, idiot, douchecocks.
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DR wrote: Today's drizzle should handle the erasing duties.
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I think this is the first time I have heard you use the word drizzle in a way that is not necessarily sexual. -
I could be mistaken but I thought that you owned the property to the curb, but that there is a right of way from the curb to the front fence/stoop line. That's why the city makes you clear the snow and repair the sidewalk.
QuantumSilence said:
I figured I weigh onto this topic especially since it hits home on so many fronts. I am a home owner and I am of the sort that justifably believes that the sidewalk in front of my home belongs to me. Sure the sidewalk in front of my home technically does not belong to me. Hell, I have no bill of sale for that patch of ground but the city sure as hell believes it does belong to me especially when they fine me for any little piece of refuse found on that patch of ground.Year in and year out the weather gets warm and the children from neighboring homes come out and play on the sidewalk. Hell, I used to do it back when I was a child. i engaged in skellies and marbles on the street and sidewalk but my parents always taught me to clean up after myself. Fast forward to today and you have a different sort of child rearing technique being used. Some of these children find it within their hearts to use those chalks and draw enormous portraits of gibberish. Yes I said gibberish. Some go beyond their designated canvass area and even have decided to paint on my stoop and my patch of ground. Sure it is removable with a hose and water but why should I clean up this mess? Why are the parents of these children not stepping up to clean after the messes created by their spawn? As you can tell from my diatribe I am not a champion of the sidewalk chalk artist and if matter were left to me I would hose the very children into teh gutter along with the colorful stains they leave behind.
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I think this is the first time I have heard you use the word drizzle in a way that is not necessarily sexual.Sorry... all this talk just made me drizzle in my pants a little bit.
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Well Alana, you can't seem to answer the question as to why the parents of these kids don't keep this type of stuff on their own property! Every week I'm out there picking weeks in my landscaping, sweeping my areaway and sidewalk, making my house look beautiful and then you feel its necessary and ok to have YOUR kids scribbling chalk directly in front my MY property. Your ignorance is so typical for this neighborhood.
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Stretchy-
It sounds as if you have created a lovely showcase for their art.Maybe you should stop taking care of your property, and see if they move on to a nicer gallery.
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Come on whynot, why should anyone have to do that. I don't know how anyone with a sensible mind can justify that its ok for their kids to do this in front of other people's property. Oh and one time these kids left a couple of those thick pieces of chalk in front of my house. So now I run the risk of someone tripping on them and then I get sued. And anyone who thinks that can't happen in this sue-happy world is very mistaken. Bottom line is, keep this type of activity on your own property.
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OMG, this is one huge troll party. :eyeroll:

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AW-
Any idea where the zoo was able to get that bear size rocking horse?That looks awesome.
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no idea but so damn cute
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I am not a fan of people who are over zealous about the space in front of their homes. I am also not a fan of hyper children who are allowed to run amok with pieces of chalk in hand either. I am hoping that the information I am providing will finally put this topic to rest once and for all.
According to the city council there is a law on the books which classifies the behavior of the children in question to be against the law. According to Local Law 111 the child armed with the hefty piece of chalk is in the wrong and the property owner is within his/her right to have the child's parent summonsed/arrested for said act. I know it sounds absurd but the below article basically points this out and simultaneously resolves the senseless bickering on this forum.
http://brooklynpaper.com/stories/30/40/30_40graffitigirl.html
So to recap:
PARENTS-
If you think your child's Picasso like attributes can continue without consequences then think again. You might just find yourself paying a $300 dollar fine or being arrested for the actions of your child. It might be prudent to take the little rascals to the park or perhaps let them chalk up the floor in your apartment instead.PROPERTY OWNERS-
If you find yourself the victim of vandalism via a child armed with a huge piece of chalk then call 311. Physical confrontation is not recommended. The police will respond and deal with the child's parent via a summons or an arrest. It is not fair that property owners should be given summonses by Sanitation for having the sidewalk in front of their homes marked up by someone else's child.ANARCHISTS-
Scolding another person's child is not recommended. Scolding the parent of the graffiti child is also not recommended. Hosing the offending children into the gutter or into traffic is extremely not recommended unless you want your face pummeled. We live in a civilized society where upon the aforementioned acts will resolve nothing and yet escalate everything. Think prudently before you act.The defenders of each side of the argument now have their options. I pray they take my advice and finally squash this most frivolous matter.
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As a property owner I must comfess, I have actually GIVEN sidewalk chalk to children and FACILITATED their use of said chalk. I throw myself on the mercy of the (Stretchy) court!! I had no idea I was fostering such horrible behavior. I promise I will reform - sometime.
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Read the article again, SoldierSanta:
the statute defined “graffiti” as “any letter, word, name, number, symbol, slogan, message, drawing, picture, writing … that is drawn, painted, chiseled, scratched, or etched on a commercial building or residential building.”
A sidewalk is not a "building".
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Salix, as I am understanding the law as written in the article it basically allows a property owner to allow children to mark up the property in front of that owners home but it does not protect that property owner from the Sanitation agent who will summons that property owner. Ironically an anonymous call to 311 will remedy the situation via a summons no matter how you slice it. It appears that the only entity winning out in this matter is the city via the influx of a new money source.
Read the article again, SoldierSanta:
the statute defined “graffiti” as “any letter, word, name, number, symbol, slogan, message, drawing, picture, writing … that is drawn, painted, chiseled, scratched, or etched on a commercial building or residential building.”
A sidewalk is not a "building".
I beg to differ, Booklaw. The end result is the same. The summons is still issued to the property owner by sanitation where as the graffiti artist is subject to arrest or even a fine which is a moot point when it comes to children. No matter how you slice it both parties involved are wrong and stand to lose.
THE MORAL OF THE STORY:
Sidewalk graffiti has now been vilified and the OP stands correct in his original statement. -
The summons may be issued, but it cannot be enforced.
Chalk on a sidewalk does not meet the definition of graffiti, and thus does not violate the statute.
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