CB 8 Meeting on New liquor licenses in Prospect Heights

New Permits sought:

1. Pluto, Inc., 730 Classon Avenue (Prospect/Park) = Anyone know more about this one?

2. R&D Restaurant, LLC, 606 Vanderbilt Avenue (St. Marks/Prospect) = City Bakery's new location.

3. Shane’s Restaurant, 794-798 Washington Avenue (Sterling/St. John’s) = Just seeking a liquor lic, has been open for years

4. Janelle’s Cuisine & Bar, 671-673 Washington Avenue (St. Marks/Prospect) = New business, presently struggling

5. 636 Carlton Avenue Restaurant, Inc., 636 Carlton Avenue (Prospect/Park) = Something new? Near Flatbush Ave.

Question on renewals:

10. ***95 South, 778 Franklin Avenue (St. John’s/Lincoln)

***Numerous issues reported by 77th Precinct

Is it easy to not renew the liquor permit of a business that has "numerous issues reported" by the local police pct? Like initial applications are renewals matters in which the local community board can merely recommend that the Liquor Authority taken an action (renew or not renew), but the liquor authority frequently does as it chooses?

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Liquor Licenses are renewed as a result of a process which takes into account community concerns, such as community members making valid complaints to their Community Board, and the input of the local police.

The Community Board then recommends to the liquor authority whether the permits/renewals should be granted.

If you have such complaints, you should bring them to:

danaeo wrote: The Economic Development Committee will meet on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 at 6:30 PM at the Center for Nursing and Rehabilitation, which is located at 727 Classon Avenue, Brooklyn, NY (between Park and Prospect Places).

It isn't a secret that we have a few "knowledgeable CB8 people" who occasionally read these boards. I seek their opinion on how much of an impact they think the board presently has with the Liquor Authority.

....I would imagine that when more people complain about a given business (or complement it), it influences how seriously the Liquor Authority takes the recommendations of the community board.

In other words, if you want to be heard on liquor license, you gotta go to the meeting.

whynot_31 said:

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In other words, if you want to be heard on liquor license, you gotta go to the meeting.

Does this mean the mighty Whynot will rise from this armchair ?

I would also like to note that the majority of the premises to be reviewed are in Crown Heights, not Prospect Heights. Perhaps the admins would consider moving this thread to Crown Heights?

Vis a vis WN's question regarding the powers of the community board, yes, they are limited. In the infamous case of the now closed Po'k Knockers on Atlantic Avenue, the refusal of the community board and the precinct to support a renewal was over-ridden because the owner had the support of several elected officials. This despite a hoard of illegal handguns found on the premises and a number of shootings linked to the establishment.

That said, no owner likes to be the object of criticism. Having to face a bunch of unhappy residents at a community board hearing is not something most owners look forward to.

Of course, some owners choose not to come and take their chances with the Liquor Authority without the support of the community, but this is rare in my experience. I've been attending CB 8 Economic Development meetings for about a dozen years.

So as WN says, get out and attend the meeting. The more people that attend, the more likely the owner will get accurate feedback.

As with most things, a certain few members always attend every meeting and bring their usual points of view. Quite often these people have no direct experience with the establishment, just an ax to grind. What the community really needs is folks with personal experience. Perhaps that is you.

AY gets part of the credit, but there also seems to be an influx of people making more money that started quite a while ago.

Some of them seem to like alcohol.

I think it is ridiculous to consider bars and restaurants together. If a given avenue has 20 restaurants and only 2 bars, I see no reason why a third bar should be prohibited; conversely, if there are 8 bars and only one restaurant, it would be silly to cripple a second restaurant by denying them a liquor license.

I hold that view even if the bar serves "bar food" and if the restaurant has a counter with stools where patrons can drink liquor.

Thanks in part to the positive feedback of a local first time attender, the Economic Development committee voted to support the liquor license renewal of 95 South yesterday.

The full board will vote tomorrow on this and other applications. The meeting is open to the public and will take place at Berean Baptist between Utica and Rochester at 7 PM.

See, sometimes showing up can make a difference!

So I guess that WN is suggesting "gansta' rapper" is a legitimate market segment?

Anyone knows more about the restaurant on 636 Carlton Ave? When is it coming and what kind of restaurant will it be or even a bar? Looking to move just nearby of it so I am not sure. Thanks!

Anyone knows more about the restaurant on 636 Carlton Ave? When is it coming and what kind of restaurant will it be or even a bar? Looking to move just nearby of it so I am not sure. Thanks!