Franklin Roadhouse?
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How is the air conditioning? The owners who can figure out how to keep thier customers cool, will get $10 for a burger.
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I went to do laundry today at Park and Franklin and decided to go across the street to get some mozz sticks and beers. (note: I ended up falling asleep back at my apartment this afternoon before putting away all of my laundry -- meaning I probably won't have beers after a long day of teaching before eating some food again)
The AC was good (I hate when places really crank it up just as much as places with too little AC- it was super comfortable both walking in from outside and staying for an hour or so) and while the food was nothing to get excited about, crappy mozz sticks and cheap beers was what I wanted after a long/hot/crappy day.
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Very few people I know around here are going to pay $10 for a burger, no matter how good it is. Dutch Boy's burgers aren't that great either and their fries are way too salty. Pasha Pita Pizza on Bergen And Classon make an amazing burger for half the price and it's twice the size of Dutch Boy's.
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The Spot also has a good burger. on weekends it's 6-7 bucks for a nice burger and fries.
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Well, Caseo- judging by the fact that every place that's selling a burger around here is not lacking for business, I'd say you're in the minority. There are plenty of folks around here that are willing and do pay $10 for a burger. The nabe she is a changing.
Also, I heard the Spot was nasty.
I had the Woodwork sliders yesterday, I do not recommend.
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The Spot is pretty terrible, especially their mimosas.
If a burger is costing me less than about $8, I'm questioning the quality and freshness of the meat. I'm all for a good bargain when it comes to food, but wholesale prices are a beast these days, which means small restaurants selling burgers for $5-6 are cutting corners somewhere. It could be on their workers wages or they could be buying the meat the processing plant scrapes off the floor.
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Wait...I totally forgot about liquor sales. You can sell burgers for cheap when you can also offer booze to go with it.
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$10 is not the going rate for burgers on "Vandy". In fact, most places charge more than that.
Cornelius - $12
Beast - $14
Branded Cattle - $11
The Vanderbilt - $12Places not technically on Vanderbilt, but in PH, also charge more:
James - $15
Dean Street - $12The only ones I could find that charge less than $10 were Plan B ($8) and The Usual ($6). Not sure how much Soda costs, as I never go there.
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I think Soda's burgers are about $10ish. Their veggie burgers are AWESOME.
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The lamb burgers at Dutch Boy are superb and well worth $10.
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Jack Krohn said:
$10 is not the going rate for burgers on "Vandy". In fact, most places charge more than that.Cornelius - $12
Beast - $14
Branded Cattle - $11
The Vanderbilt - $12Places not technically on Vanderbilt, but in PH, also charge more:
James - $15
Dean Street - $12The only ones I could find that charge less than $10 were Plan B ($8) and The Usual ($6). Not sure how much Soda costs, as I never go there.
That's with cheese!
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with the interior temps inside the dining room, this guys sign should say free beer not 3 dollar beer. Pies looked pretty good but some of the other people eating there had sizzling skin from the 300 plus inside.
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As we approach the hot month of July, can I request that people post which has the best A/C?
I seek good meat plus good a/c, and will pay up to $12.
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I was trying to be nice but I meant a lot of the people who've lived here for years that aren't on Brooklynian. My neighbors aren't paying $10 for a burger on Franklin and neither will I.
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Right, issues of gentrification are different than, 'this place is crazy to charge $10 for a burger'
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Never said they were crazy for charging $10 for a burger. We all know who's going to go there and who won't though, that's why they're charging $10 for a burger.
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Went last month and we had burgers/fries for two (a plain cheeseburger and a bacon and blue cheese burger with cheese fries made on request). Not the most amazing food ever but better -- and cheaper -- than Dutch Boy.
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caseopele said:
Never said they were crazy for charging $10 for a burger. We all know who's going to go there and who won't though, that's why they're charging $10 for a burger.Ok, I may be either opening a can of worms or putting my foot in my mouth by not phrasing this correctly. Obviously, I can't tell someone socioeconomic background by looking at them -- however, the large majority of these supposed "gentrifiers" are white - and yet every time I've gone, my husband and I have been the only white customers. We've also been marginally younger than most (though not all) of the other customers. Actually, the customer base seems to be more 40-year-old working men and women in the neighborhood and are generally of Caribbean or African decent.
I'm sure I've phrased this wrong -- but all I meant was, compared to the customers I see when I walk past Dutch Boy, Franklin Roadhouse seems a lot less young and white.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and state that the combination of "burgers and beer" has wide appeal.
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We all know who's going to go there
WHITEY
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um, how about whitey and all other people with $14 who happen to like burgers and beer?
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Recently I was in there and overhead several "black guys" talking to each other about their workdays. One of them was having a hard time adjusting to cubicle life ....crafting memos that are not read.
It was a pretty mixed crowd. The Amber beer was yummy. Their dining room is more comfy than Dutch Boy's
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How can Whitey go here when he is confined to a federal lockup in Boston?
Harharharharhar.
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for those who don't get Jack's reference:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/23/whitey-bulger-arrested-in_n_882728.html#s296735
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Is the Roadhouse still open? It's been closed all week, or at least after nine from what I can tell.
It would not surprise me if this place was unable to survive beyond an initial six-month lease. I know nothing of their lease, profits, etc., I just know it is one of the most awkward places in the neighborhood.
Perhaps an owner/investor actually saw the place and realized it was a joke and decided to re-invent the place. That would be the best scenario.
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It has been closed a lot lately, and I totally agree a relaunch would be best.
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Soon to re-open under new owners!
I met the new owners tonight and they talked about how they are in the process of getting permits, and envision it becoming an American style casual dining establishment.
However, I did not get the name of the place and I did not ask them if it would be more upscale than a diner.
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Their complete press release:
At the Franklin Avenue Merchants meeting last night, ILFA had the pleasure of meeting Jacques Belanger and Lev Gewirtzman, the business partners who've taken over the old Franklin Roadhouse space at 688 Franklin (pictured above). The Crown Heights residents have ample experience in restaurant world between them, and after meeting with CB8 tonight, they're aiming to be open in 5-6 months, offering American casual fare that focuses on seasonal ingredients. No word yet on what the space will look like
http://ilovefranklinave.blogspot.com/2012/03/local-culinary-vets-to-open-restaurant.html
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the part about "seasonal ingredients" makes me think this will be a nice upscale place.
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