Christie's patty closing after 45 years - (Thanks to Nets?)

Fine, but don't blame it entirely on the Nets and Barclays Center.

i doubt that an arena seven blocks away that's still months away from opening has much to do with it. it's not like businesses are clamoring for the real estate -- there are lots of vacant storefronts on vanderbilt much closer. sounds like unpaid rent is the bigger issue. too bad they couldn't have stayed in the smaller space across the street, which was sufficient for a takeout joint and probably a good deal cheaper. my guess is the space will stay vacant for a while, unless there's another nail salon or cellphone franchise out there.

While the arena is a factor, it is not the ONLY factor. The area started gentrifying long before Ratner announced plans to build the arena. Plus, the article clearly states that business at Christie's has been slow recently and that the owner is two months behind on his rent and other bills. He enjoyed a good run and was open longer than most posters on this board have been alive. Not many restaurants in NYC can make that claim.

I just hope that we don't have a boom, then bust phenomena.

Wherein the businesses and landlords over estimate the arenas impact, and create unrolled, expensive storefronts.

ayinfonyc said:

IT HAS EVERYTHING to do with the arena, according to the report

no. read the article. it has everything to do with the arena according to the owner of christie's, who also said business has slowed and he's two months behind on the rent. you could be right, it may be about the arena, but this article doesn't prove it.

i don't disagree that AY is fucking over the neighborhood. i just prefer to focus on facts, which they're plenty of, rather than assume everything bad that happens is AY's fault. if you tailor every problem to fit your agenda, then it's just your propaganda vs. theirs.

I feel that the landlord is a total buttplug for making Mr.Hates keep his patty prices at 2 dollars instead of raising them with any common sense.

I also feel that the landlord is a complete slob, I mean look at that awning!!

I think the landlord should have held out a little longer waiting for the Slopers to make there way over for a ground meat pocket after a trip to the co-op.I also feel that the 1000's of new residents just didn't embrace local culture, instead they are flocking to Bark and Brooklyn Larder.

Why go to Franny's when a 2 dollar meal is available? People just don't get it.

The landlord is right to make way for another place like Prime6 because that place was not only welcomed by the surrounding community but it has been completely accepted. Hat's off to you Mr.Hayes. Your protest mechanism is one I hope more people use, don't pay your rent and the landlord will certainly perk up and start paying attention.

May want to read story about Grimaldi's pizza. The landlord in that case called an 80 year old man to ask if he would like his old space w a new lease. The story originally unfolded as if the landlord was a money grubbin' asshole, turns out he just wanted to paid on time.

ayinfonyc said:

Oh, having so many new liquor licenses applications every month the CB8 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE can't deal with any other agenda item is just 'propaganda'? 19,000 'fans' traipsing thru the NAB 220 days a year is just 'propaganda'? Having 24/7 construction for the next 25 years is just 'propaganda'? you are smokin'....

you're making my point. these facts do nothing to prove or disprove the assertion that christie's was forced out to make room for a higher paying, ay-friendly venture. in this case, there was at least one other factor, which may well have been the main factor, which you choose to ignore.

the larger point is that you do the neighborhood, and those of us opposed to ay, no favors by building your argument on questionable claims, especially when there are so many real ones available.

@ SJ;

so what's your point? it's not questionable, it what was written in the article & that's what this thread is about....

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“She’s trying to kick me out,” he said. “I don’t think it’s worth the stress; it’s killing me. I’ve had so many sleepless nights.”

The dispute is the latest evidence that small businesses may have trouble staying open near the arena, where the Nets will play basketball next season (if there is a season).

Businesses owners in Fort Greene and north Park Slope also report that landlords have doubled rent, citing proximity to the arena in new real-estate ads.

@ WhyFi.... I didn't write the article... I agree with it... I don't give a flying F-k if you agree & you don't speak for everyone else.... & I'm NOT asking for your sorry a$$ support... people with YOUR IRRATIONAL IDIOTIC ideas why the tax payers keeps getting screwed with these unprofitable arena projects... at least the taxpayers in Long Island weren't stupid enough to vote for more debt to build another arena for the Islanders....

i desist.

I wonder what will go in that space next....

Jack Krohn said:

I agree with you, WhyFi, that ayinfonyc is irrational. It's this overzealous approach that caused the DDDB crowd to fail so miserably in the first place.

WhyNot, I was wondering the same thing. I guess time will tell.

DDDB was going to fail, regardless of whom kept their head and who didn't. AY had the full backing of City, State & Fed. Even the US Supreme Court found in favor of Eminent Domain, no matter what the reason. Now, as far as Christie's goes, the neighborhood is changing. The rents have been sky-rocketing for a while. I'm surprised they lasted this long. Hopefully, the owner will find another place to open shop. Hopefully, he'll have enough cash to buy the property he's setting up shop in so he won't have to worry about paying rent and can actually put collect additional pocket change. I guess this leaves Benoit Barber Shop on Park Place (by Carlton) as the last of the OGs.

Mama-

The location is kinda small for anything like the Olive Garden. Maybe an Olive Garden Express?

There is a double brownstone located on Prospect Pl, near Vanderbilt that I have been eying for a while. It presently has a Haitian Baptist Church in it, but is unused most days of the week. If I had the cash, I'd make the congregation an offer and they could purchase a much lager church closer to where their members now live. I'd then divide it, renovate them and sell them. The buildings are presently painted yellow, but a little sandblasting would take care of that....

Anyone remember when the Haitian Times newspaper used to have its office on Vanderbilt, near where Milk Bar is now? ...they have now moved to Flatbush Ave.