Apartment leads in area for a 2 bedroom around 1500
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Also, look into one bedrooms where the living room is seperate from the rest of the apartment. A lot of the pre-wars have this. Then one of you could be in the living room, another in the bedroom, and you just wouldn't have much in the way of common space except for the kitchen.
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So, if you are north of EP and west of Nostrand you're basically looking at the rapidly gentrifying (and expensifying) areas of Crown Heights, and already pricey Prospect Heights. I think there's a reason that so many of your student friends live in the area you don't want: it fits their budgets.
Just to give some perspective on Queens, six years ago we had a rent-stabilized 1-bedroom in Astoria for $1100/month, which we considered to be a great deal.
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Queens. I second and third that. Sunnyside and Jackson Heights near the express 7 trains are great..
My extra 2 cents would be Sunset Park. Believe it or not if you live near the 36 street station it is 20-30 minutes to 8th street NYU. You may have better luck finding a two bedroom around here for 1500-1700. It will also be a ton safer too
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The Psycho-ologist said:
Queens. I second and third that. Sunnyside and Jackson Heights near the express 7 trains are great..My extra 2 cents would be Sunset Park. Believe it or not if you live near the 36 street station it is 20-30 minutes to 8th street NYU. You may have better luck finding a two bedroom around here for 1500-1700. It will also be a ton safer too
What is sunset park like? We heard pretty bad reviews but I've seen plenty of places there in our price range.
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in sunset park rule of thumb has always been the higher the ave the better the location vs the lower the ave towards the industrial zone.
If you don't mind Asians, towards 6 or 7 ave and above fairly safe.
people from sunset park is mostly made up of immigrants.
But still have a large older Puerto Ricans lower side of sunset park and you could still find Irish and Nordic in the Asian areas.
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That list is a wonderfully warped and wacky wandering down a wide-brush wormhole.
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Respectfully, I feel like your idea of "manhattan" prices is really idealistic.
dean street at new york avenue is east of nostrand and north of eastern parkway and it's absolutely gorgeous/ rapidly becoming more expensive. if you want someplace as "safe" as the NYU dorms you'll have to move way farther out (like bay ridge maybe?) or raise your budget by at least 200 a person.
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also, hello! i am moving to the aforementioned intersection after 5 years in bushwick. very excited to be moving south.
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Lorien said:
Respectfully, I feel like your idea of "manhattan" prices is really idealistic.dean street at new york avenue is east of nostrand and north of eastern parkway and it's absolutely gorgeous/ rapidly becoming more expensive. if you want someplace as "safe" as the NYU dorms you'll have to move way farther out (like bay ridge maybe?) or raise your budget by at least 200 a person.
Manhattan prices are all over the place. Sure, you can shell out $3000 for a studio easily. But I lived in an east village apartment last year and paid under $1000/month (this was right off first ave too). I can easily get a 2 bedroom in downtown areas (since I know which management companies to work through) for around $1100 a month (per person, $2200 total) without paying a broker. Sure, it won't be spacious and I may not have that much natural light, but that's possible and those are Manhattan prices to me. Sadly, I don't have that kind of money this year so prices like that are just off the table.
The one thing I will say about searching for a place in Brooklyn is that everyone is much more disorganized, probably due to the fact that a lot of places are owned by individual landlords and smaller management companies. Management companies in Manhattan know if a tenent is renewing a lease or not at least a month in advance and begin showing places about 3 weeks in advance. And if you contact them with a price range, location and size before that and they’re nice, they’ll show you the place way in advance. At least, that’s been my experience.
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Also, just wanna says thanks everyone for the helpful advice! The lists and insider insight are great!
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Hi there! Not sure if you've tried this already, but if not, give the management company you rented from last year a call. They may have rental properties in Brooklyn. In fact, you can try this with any building. Just Google the address to find the contact info for the building owner. Some may pass you along to fee-based broker, but some may not. It's worth a shot. Good luck!
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I think going the roommate route will be your only way to do this. I.e. not an apartment.
http://newyork.craigslist.org/search/sub/brk?maxAsk=750&minAsk=300&srchType=A
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TrebleClef 1 said:
Manhattan prices are all over the place...I can easily get a 2 bedroom in downtown areas (since I know which management companies to work through) for around $1100 a month without paying a broker. Sure, it won't be spacious and I may not have that much natural light, but that's possible and those are Manhattan prices to me. Sadly, I don't have that kind of money this year so prices like that are just off the table.I'm confused. You can't afford to pay $1100 for a two-bedroom in Manhattan, but you can afford to pay $1500 for a two-bedroom in Brooklyn?
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Architecture Biscuit said:
I'm confused. You can't afford to pay $1100 for a two-bedroom in Manhattan, but you can afford to pay $1500 for a two-bedroom in Brooklyn?Sorry, I meant $1100 per person. So we could find a 2 bedroom for $2200 total, $1100 per person. In Brooklyn, we are looking for a two bedroom for $1500 total, $750 per person.
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Where are you from? If you really had a place in the east village for under $1000 and you chose to leave it, you're a fool. I don't care if you would have had to get a night job, or leave NYU, you don't give that kind of place up.
Also, the process isn't more disorganized in Brooklyn than Manhattan, you've just had some luck in that area. It's like this everywhere in the city. Besides, a lot of places are not run by management companies. Sometimes you deal directly with the landlord. Your assumption that in Manhattan landlords will show places earlier than in Brooklyn is also a bit bizarre.
Read the locations Psycho-ologist listed. I agree wholeheartedly that Queens is somewhere you should be looking.
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Where are you from? If you really had a place in the east village for under $1000 and you chose to leave it, you're a fool. I don't care if you would have had to get a night job, or leave NYU, you don't give that kind of place up.
Also, the process isn't more disorganized in Brooklyn than Manhattan, you've just had some luck in that area. It's like this everywhere in the city. Besides, a lot of places are not run by management companies. Sometimes you deal directly with the landlord. Your assumption that in Manhattan landlords will show places earlier than in Brooklyn is also a bit bizarre.
Read the locations Psycho-ologist listed. I agree wholeheartedly that Queens is somewhere you should be looking.
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tateinbk said:
Where are you from? If you really had a place in the east village for under $1000 and you chose to leave it, you're a fool. I don't care if you would have had to get a night job, or leave NYU, you don't give that kind of place up.Also, the process isn't more disorganized in Brooklyn than Manhattan, you've just had some luck in that area. It's like this everywhere in the city. Besides, a lot of places are not run by management companies. Sometimes you deal directly with the landlord. Your assumption that in Manhattan landlords will show places earlier than in Brooklyn is also a bit bizarre.
Read the locations Psycho-ologist listed. I agree wholeheartedly that Queens is somewhere you should be looking.
I don’t see how where I’m from has to do with any of this. I’m from NJ, grew up very close to the city. We had a Jakobson 4 bedroom duplex apartment that was a bit under $4000. But let me assure you, that place was pretty crappy. No natural light, a kitchenette rather than a kitchen (and we had a mini fridge rather than a full size fridge), a dinky spiral staircase (which was not fun for anyone who had two beers or more), and tiny rooms (one of which had a door to the outside). There were a lot of reasons to leave. Money was the main reason, but having incredibly annoying neighbors and a change in the roommate situation were also factors. Plus, they wanted to raise rent.
We’ve expanded the areas we’re looking in and saw a few really nice places (in albeit sketchy but not wholly unsafe neighborhoods). Walking up and down eastern parkway and calling every number on a building was also helpful.
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tateinbk said:
Where are you from? If you really had a place in the east village for under $1000 and you chose to leave it, you're a fool. I don't care if you would have had to get a night job, or leave NYU, you don't give that kind of place up.Also, the process isn't more disorganized in Brooklyn than Manhattan, you've just had some luck in that area. It's like this everywhere in the city. Besides, a lot of places are not run by management companies. Sometimes you deal directly with the landlord. Your assumption that in Manhattan landlords will show places earlier than in Brooklyn is also a bit bizarre.
Read the locations Psycho-ologist listed. I agree wholeheartedly that Queens is somewhere you should be looking.
I don’t see how where I’m from has to do with any of this. I’m from NJ, grew up very close to the city. We had a Jakobson 4 bedroom duplex apartment that was a bit under $4000. But let me assure you, that place was pretty crappy. No natural light, a kitchenette rather than a kitchen (and we had a mini fridge rather than a full size fridge), a dinky spiral staircase (which was not fun for anyone who had two beers or more), and tiny rooms (one of which had a door to the outside). There were a lot of reasons to leave. Money was the main reason, but having incredibly annoying neighbors and a change in the roommate situation were also factors. Plus, they wanted to raise rent.
We’ve expanded the areas we’re looking in and saw a few really nice places (in albeit sketchy but not wholly unsafe neighborhoods). Walking up and down eastern parkway and calling every number on a building was also helpful.
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TrebleClef 1 said:
Sorry, I meant $1100 per person. So we could find a 2 bedroom for $2200 total, $1100 per person. In Brooklyn, we are looking for a two bedroom for $1500 total, $750 per person.I gotta ask people who are renting: is this even a realistic amount for a two bedroom apartment in these neighborhoods? I was paying more than that 12 years ago for a 2 bedroom in a so-so part of Boston. If we wanted to rent out our two bedroom we would have to charge more than $1,500/month just to cover our costs and make a little money.
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TrebleClef 1 said:
Sorry, I meant $1100 per person. So we could find a 2 bedroom for $2200 total, $1100 per person. In Brooklyn, we are looking for a two bedroom for $1500 total, $750 per person.I gotta ask people who are renting: is this even a realistic amount for a two bedroom apartment in these neighborhoods? I was paying more than that 12 years ago for a 2 bedroom in a so-so part of Boston. If we wanted to rent out our two bedroom we would have to charge more than $1,500/month just to cover our costs and make a little money.
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I dont want to scare you or shit on CH. But I can say with confidence the "sketchiness" you are playing down will turn into outright insecurity/discomfort as time goes on. Don't forget, you will have to walk around more than EP, and EP gets hairy at night all the way up to and including the museum.
Why do you want to live in this area so badly?
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I dont want to scare you or shit on CH. But I can say with confidence the "sketchiness" you are playing down will turn into outright insecurity/discomfort as time goes on. Don't forget, you will have to walk around more than EP, and EP gets hairy at night all the way up to and including the museum.
Why do you want to live in this area so badly?
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I agree with Cool the Kid in asking why this area is so important to you. Is it just that you have friends already there?
I disagree with CTK though on the overall scariness of the neighborhood. There are certain streets that are a little more desolate than others, but I disagree that EP gets so hairy at night. I moved into the area just as CTK was moving out though. Maybe it's changed since that moment in time? I walk on east on EP or even Lincoln past the Museum at night and haven't had my NYC-spidey sense alarm go off.
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I agree with Cool the Kid in asking why this area is so important to you. Is it just that you have friends already there?
I disagree with CTK though on the overall scariness of the neighborhood. There are certain streets that are a little more desolate than others, but I disagree that EP gets so hairy at night. I moved into the area just as CTK was moving out though. Maybe it's changed since that moment in time? I walk on east on EP or even Lincoln past the Museum at night and haven't had my NYC-spidey sense alarm go off.
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Like with most people, certain areas are just more desirable because of my living preferences. Sadly, most of my friends can afford Manhattan so it’s not about social life. The main thing I need (personally, this doesn't account for my roommate) is to be able to have a decent commute on the subway, especially late at night, as I usually stay in the library until 3/4 a.m. during the academic year. This means being near multiple subway lines in case one line has disrupted service or being on the express train. Then, you factor in wanting safety in the area, a decent night life scene that’s there or accessible, good food/culture, and apartments that are actually nice (as opposed to what I was living in last year) and I’ve come up with this area. Plus, the fact that I’ve walked along eastern parkway and other parts of this area at night and not been totally freaked out just makes it my first go-to preference. Astoria and some other parts of brooklyn also come a close second.
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Like with most people, certain areas are just more desirable because of my living preferences. Sadly, most of my friends can afford Manhattan so it’s not about social life. The main thing I need (personally, this doesn't account for my roommate) is to be able to have a decent commute on the subway, especially late at night, as I usually stay in the library until 3/4 a.m. during the academic year. This means being near multiple subway lines in case one line has disrupted service or being on the express train. Then, you factor in wanting safety in the area, a decent night life scene that’s there or accessible, good food/culture, and apartments that are actually nice (as opposed to what I was living in last year) and I’ve come up with this area. Plus, the fact that I’ve walked along eastern parkway and other parts of this area at night and not been totally freaked out just makes it my first go-to preference. Astoria and some other parts of brooklyn also come a close second.
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I think you can find a 2BR in CH for $1500. Probably better off grabbing a 3rd person and that will bring the cost down and likely be easier to find. By your description, though, I'd think Fort Greene would look better for you, assuming its still semi-affordable up there.
2nd, you probably shouldn't be using safe and CH in the same sentence. It is in the top 5 most violent precincts for Brooklyn. My buddy moved to Franklin and he absolutely hates it and regrets it. Also, theres no way you can compare the safety of Astoria vs CH. And I'm no Astoria fan.
Don't listen to the hipsters and "artists" that think its cool or trendy to live there. Thats what an acquaintance thought when he moved to Bushwick (read East Williamsburg) and got stabbed by a 16 y/o for no reason.
Good luck anyhow.
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