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Select Bus Service and other changes on Nostrand Jan 2013+ — Brooklynian

Select Bus Service and other changes on Nostrand Jan 2013+

whynot_31
whynot_31
edited February 2014 in Crown Heights/Prospect Lefferts Gardens

Over the past few years, the changes in the neighborhood have begun to be reflected on Nostrand Ave:

-A cell phone store replaced Crown Fried Chicken at EP and Nostrand

-CT Muffin has appreared "midway" on Nostrand, between Atlantic and EP.

-NuBar has opened

-Fewer corners are the site of obvious drug activity by young men

-etc

Anyone want to jabber about what is next?

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Comments

  • tsarina
    tsarina

    nostrand ave pub will be across the street from ct muffin. bagel bakery will be between atlantic/pacific. sakura Tokyo. Richol bakery. Another Sushi place by Sterling. Syds sandwich. Hair places closing down, and even (gasp) a few nail salons. The site of the starlight sits empty in all its sheetrock glory. We all miss the old bar and I could just spit nails when I see this generic space.

  • ap
    ap

    A great update on the recent changes from the blog Nostrand Park:

    http://nostrandpark.com/2013/01/15/what-do-sushi-tattoos-indian-organic-skincare-and-a-french-bakery-all-have-in-common/

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Whoa, I didn't realize that LaurelB/NostrandPark was publishing again!

    That is a good list.

  • markhor
    markhor

    i actually joined this forum to ask about nostrand, particularly imhotep. its recent closing (after 26 years) is really disappointing. i saw some folks poking around there a few weeks ago though, so it looks as though the space might be occupied fairly quickly? any ideas on what it might be?

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    http://nymag.com/listings/restaurant/imhotep_health_and_vegan_restaurant/

    I don't know. However, after 26 years, they might actually be the owner of that location.

  • epiclylaterd
    epiclylaterd

    There was a building for sale not too long ago. It's the Nostrand Travel building, might house Imhoteps too, not sure, but it was for sale for a little over a million.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Maybe they cashed out...

  • goldemi
    goldemi

    With the changes on Franklin and rental prices going up (commercial and residential), it makes sense that more will move east given the nice housing stock, strong retail potential, and proximity still to the subway and park.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    I agree.

    I add that this seems to be a case of the residents leading the change, and then the businesses mix catching up to the neighborhood's changing preferences.

    Adapt or perish?

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    My dog and I decided that Nostrand was going to be today's destination.

    We saw several pretty prime storefronts being warehoused by landlords, presumably with the hope that they will be able to recoup the rent lost in the vacant months with higher rents from new tenants.

    We also checked on progress at Hello Living site; they are building a big, market rate, residential building just off Nostrand. Similar buildings were constructed by them just of Washington Ave a few years ago.

    Here's the apex of today's walk in photos:

    Prime corner space, recently vacated

    The Hello Living construction site (Nostrand and Sterling)

    Another prime corner, now vacant

    yet another prime corner, now vacant


    Attached files image image image image
  • markhor
    markhor

    some more updates:

    - a new ice cream place at prospect pl and nostrand (on the western side)

    - a fish and chips shop

    http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2012/03/fish-and-chips-joint-coming-to-nostrand-in-crown-hts/

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    I have been meaning to try the Fish and chip place.

    ...do you know anything more about the ice cream place?

    Do you know if it is going to be a Baskin Robbins, or a smaller chain, or not a chain at all?

  • epiclylaterd
    epiclylaterd

    Its called BK Scoop. They have coffee, ice cream, pastries etc. Located right next to the elementary school on Prospect.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Putting an ice cream place next to an elementary school sounds like it might work!

  • tsarina
    tsarina

    Yes Ice cream and kids should be good. Its run by the same lady that had the pary goods store there before. They have coffee, soup, hot dogs. and the ice cream is really good, not generic, well made. and muffins too.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Have any of you observed any activity at the corner storefronts I took photos of?

  • epiclylaterd
    epiclylaterd

    No activity there but saw a large trash dump at 722 Nostrand Ave next to "Secrets." Looks like a gut reno

  • chloeroyale
    chloeroyale

    Is nostrand travel sold???

  • dmiami
    dmiami

    The Nostrand Ave SBS (select bus service) is underway... additional info attached. i think there was another thread on this but i couldn't find it.

    Attached files Nostrand_Ave_SBS_Construction.pdf (167.2 KB)
  • dmiami
    dmiami

    Nevermind... attachments are busted on brooklynian.com

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Yes, that should be have big effects!

    Readers, this will basically provide a dedicated bus lane like that on 34th St and some other streets in Manhattan.

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbo=d&site=&source=hp&q=nostrand+avenue+select+bus+service&oq=nostrand+sel&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.1.0.0i8j0i8i30l3.3789.9689.0.12247.13.12.0.1.1.0.445.2135.0j7j1j1j1.10.0.les;..0.0...1ac.1.3.mobile-gws-hp.MUMNT-cXNro

  • chloeroyale
    chloeroyale

    So how will the merchants get there goods delivered?

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Chloe-

    The same way as where there are SBS lanes Manhattan; Those who can't adapt to the change will go out business.

    ....they have known the change is coming for literally years.

  • dmiami
    dmiami

    Deliveries are allowed during construction. Once the SBS is up and running the delivery folks will have to work around the rules, whatever they are. I don’t think the merchants will be inconvenienced as much as the companies that deliver their goods.

  • homeowner
    homeowner

    While it may not seem like a big deal, there are 2 supermarkets on Nostrand that receive deliveries between 7-8 am two or three times a week. Currently this works as there is no parking from 7:30-8:30am so trucks can pull up unobstructed, unload directly in front of the store and leave without disrupting the other two travel lanes of traffic. With the new traffic pattern, the curbside lane is scheduled to become a driving lane which means no access for those trucks. The 53, 40 and 35 foot trucks will all need to double park on side streets and walk their goods around the corner.

    I've mentioned this to DOT several times as a concern, including to the person who is in charge of the SBS and they have continue to state that its not going to be a problem. I don't know if this is because they are going to turn a blind eye towards tractor-trailers double-parking on non-truck routes to discharge goods, or if they believe that the trucks will continue to load on Nostrand reducing the number of travel lanes to one during the morning rush hour. In my mind, either plan is stupid.

    Its interesting to me that the one of the reasons stated for the SBS is the need to speed up the B44, yet DOT seemed to overlook the fact that one of the main reasons for the slow service on that line was their failure to make necessary repairs to the street. The section of Nostrand between Flushing Avenue and Fulton Street was almost impossible to navigate and traffic routinely traveled at 15 mph or less to avoid the potholes, depressions, and cave-ins that existed on the avenue.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    I suspect that the supermarkets will incur some increased costs as a result of the added labor Homeowner describes.

    Frequently, they pass these costs on to consumers. If they can't pass the costs on (because people simply shop elsewhere), the business mix may change to one in which there is less competition (aka supermarkets).

    When you look at the other SBS Avenues, you can get a sense what Nostrand may become.....

    http://www.nyc.gov/html/brt/html/routes/routes.shtml

    http://www.nyc.gov/html/brt/html/routes/nostrand.shtml

    If all goes according to MTA's plan, Nostrand is going to become one of the busiest bus corridors in NYC. It will allow people a somewhat quick way to go North/South, in the absence of good subway service.

    This will be a big change for merchants, drivers and shoppers, and may already be playing a role in the changing business mix along Nostrand in Crown Heights.

    At least, I hope they have started to prepare....

  • dmiami
    dmiami

    Nostrand Ave is in need of repaving, no doubt. Perhaps some repairs will be done during construction.

  • chloeroyale
    chloeroyale

    Nostrand is a target zone for economic development most of those merchants won't be there in five yrs including the supermarket. Oh we'll change is here!

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    I don't think the effects will be that stark. I tend to think of it this way:

    -Those who adapt will likely survive.

    -Those who don't adapt have less of a chance of surviving.

  • msboombastic
    msboombastic

    The SBS construction involves a lot of work to repair Nostrand, but only from Atlantic to Flushing.

    http://www.nyc.gov/html/brt/downloads/pdf/2013-01-sbs-nostrand-newsletter.pdf

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