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A look below the surface in gentrifying Crown Heights published Jan 15 2013 — Brooklynian

A look below the surface in gentrifying Crown Heights published Jan 15 2013

If I may say so, it is damn good and worth your time:

http://narrative.ly/2013/01/the-ins-and-the-outs/

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  • Wow! That is probably one of the most balanced pieces on all of the complex issues of gentrification that I've ever read. It does, not paint a pretty picture of either MySpace or Elcorno Martin, but that's pretty much in keeping with their on-line reputations anyway.

  • I can't claim credit for the writing, but I am glad you liked it.

  • Why not excellent piece I'm shocked mike really tried to help ms Cruz and his rep in the area was that he was crazy. Of course u know I'm not a fan of the tenant little Zelda so I have only one thing to say about him it will be another park slope but more expensive. And his rental renewal will be significantly higher. Oh we'll good for him!

  • Why not sorry I know u hate smugness

  • Homeowner-

    I view the profile of MySpace as being similar to that of many businesses that make their money from the less than savvy and/or desperate:

    Pawn shops

    Lottery sales

    For profit trade schools

    Prostitution rings

    drug dealers

    etc

    What sets them apart is, that unlike some of these businesses, what they are doing is completely legal.

    What makes them the same is that if you were to somehow get rid of them, the transactions would still take place, just in a slightly different form, with slightly different actors.

  • Why not u keep me in the know

  • I don't see MySpace as being particularly worse or better than the average city broker/developer. They stand out locally because of their ubiquitousness and relative success.

    They wanted my building's business, but I turned them down. I'm not in this to maximize my profits, but I have my own selfish reasons for why I do things so I try not to judge others (though often I fail).

  • I believe everyone often fails.

    This leads me to empathize with the goals of those who are judging MySpace.

    However, this is a classic case in which someone can agree with thier goals, yet disagree with both the methods used to achieve said goals AND their focus.

  • Thanks, Whynot, quite a good read. I think you are Mike Fagan, right?

  • Sometimes.

  • ....It really depends upon my mood.

  • Eastbloc-

    Mrs. Whynot stated she enjoyed this quote the best:

    But as for the ownership of MySpace NYC specifically, Sharon elaborated: “They’re not regular Jews who wear black. They wear the jeans, the designer labels.”

    She loved it because this seemed to her to be such a Crown Heights-centric statement.

    It is as if Sharon was unaware that most Jews in NYC don't wear black and/or live in the largely Lubavitch area of Crown Heights.

    So. Precious.

  • sharon sadly represents many in the community. yes, you can live in a diverse place like nyc and still be completely ignorant about other cultures/races/religions.

  • my favorite quote

    “It’s just a little strange,” Cory explained. “You go from four-dollar Chinese food sold from behind bulletproof glass to a twenty-eight dollar pizza and a Lambrusco in half a block. What fills the gap between them?
  • Similarly good conversation on Brownstoner:

    http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2013/01/a-close-look-at-gentrification-in-crown-heights/#disqus_thread

    bklynmind wrote: Yes its only the people who lived there for decades...the dramatic reduction in crime has nothing to do with the police or NYC Government, and the improvement in desirability has nothing to do with new businesses, landlords, developers, and individuals investing millions of dollars into these areas.

    Obviously sarcastic

  • CLAYFILMS said:

    my favorite quote

    “It’s just a little strange,” Cory explained. “You go from four-dollar Chinese food sold from behind bulletproof glass to a twenty-eight dollar pizza and a Lambrusco in half a block. What fills the gap between them?

    I thought this quote was interesting, too, considering there's no shortage of options to fill the gap. Yes, Barboncino and Mayfield are pricy for the area, but there are plenty of affordable dining options that don't involve plexiglas partitions: Chavela's, Taste Buds, Guero's, Bombay Masala, etc.

  • Picked up by Huffington Post, which also has a conversation going:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/a-look-below-the-surface-_n_2482260.html?utm_hp_ref=new-york

    A whole bunch of Facebook threads and shares by people who operate businesses in Western Crown Heights.

    other pickups include:

    reddit:

    http://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/16mojo/

    Some blog in chicago http://isteve.blogspot.com/2013/01/crown-heights-gentrification-and.html

  • And now, from a source I do not have permission to quote:

    It's interesting that De Zayas is one of the first merchants quoted in this article, I know some local CH merchants who see him as one of the pushy gentrifiers who can't be bothered to make nice with the older merchants on that block.

    P.S. The website that profiled Franklin Avenue, is running several articles on gentrification this week. Some of the neighborhoods profiled are experiencing the opposite: Disinvestment.

    http://us5.campaign-archive2.com/?u=75fd15d26b96a36801073cfe1&id=9844876cb9&e=98209e660d

  • the nerve of anyone trying to get people at 724 Franklin to pay rent! the nerve!

    the nerve of a father of an infant not wanting music to be so loud as to wake his baby up at night! the nerve!

    surprised no one has commented on the seemingly rampant anti-semitism (if this article is to be believed) in the neighborhood.

    i also enjoyed the quote from Nick, a 22-year-old, about the real nature of gentrification. you think he took a college course on it?

    pretty spotty journalism. don't understand why this piece would get so much attention over so many others.

  • via the above Brownstoner link:

    deano wrote: Being on and around Franklin since 2010, and living here since 2011 as another one "displaced" by the changes in Carroll Gardens, it appears to me that much of this attention and angst is caused not just by the changes going on here (not too different from the process going on in many parts of brooklyn) but to a larger extent by the astonishing *speed* of these changes, very evident in my two years around here, which is making it more exciting/disruptive/painful for the various folk involved.

    The narrative.ly piece doesnt mention two really big catalysts for this incredible speed: first, the Jewish Hospital conversion was a huge "moment" in this process, creating an almost instant community of new faces (and new money) within its own walls. It's so much easier for new faces to venture to an unknown neighborhood knowing that an equally new and like-minded community would be coming with them.

    Second, and more relevant to today: while MySpace may be no more callous than most hungry realtors, their business model is. It's a freakishly powerful force in pushing up the average rents and changing the character of the neighbourhood. Never a fee for renters - that's the trick. They'll take a fee from the landlord instead, and their pitch to win owners promises higher rent for the space to offset the fee. It's a canny model for them and clearly it works; but now we are all seeing how it impacts the community; renters (especially those with less experience and/or savings) are drawn to the area by the shiny allure of "NO FEE" and commit to a higher monthly rent than they could otherwise. Maybe they can sustain it, maybe they cant, but without the 'anchor' of having a fee to amortize, they are more likely to leave at the end of the year ... and higher turnovers mean more money for brokers. The landlord will pay again because MySpace (having driven up the comps nearby) will promise even higher rents for the new lease, and to help keep open the faucet of new renters they'll encourage landlords to put 3 or even 4 bedrooms into 700-800sf apartments. Landlords end up losing out from turnover and renters with less incentive to be good tenants, renters lose out to the higher monthlies. MySpace wins from both sides, and then wins again as their own growing inventory is appraised higher and higher from the spiralling rents.

    So if we want to ease up on this breathless pace, then landlords - dont rent property through MySpace. Renters - dont use MySpace if you can avoid it; save up and pay the upfront fees for a better lease, or use Craigslist and rent direct from an owner.

  • I lived in an E. Martin building for years. No raccoon in the kitchen but gross and disgusting none the less.

    Insane to me that both he and MySpace have store fronts on Franklin and that only MySpace gets picket lines and uproar on the Internet.

    ...The terrible person in me thinks it is because white people like to feel guilty about displacing people of color (while continuing to displace them of course, stating that that is just the ways of the world) and so MySpace gets press. A terriblly insane person - Martin - however, is only hurting poor people. No one feels guilty about that.

  • xlizellx-

    I won't comment on Elcorno Martin's mental health, but I will state I think you are right about everything else.

    First, I am going to define how I use some terms, then I'll jabber...

    Slumlord: A landlord which operates a building/"slum" which is in disrepair. The tenants usually lack "power".

    Flipper: A landlord which quickly purges the current residents of a building in order to refill the units with tenants who pay higher rents. Upgrades are often, but not always, done between tenants.

    Market Rate Landlord: A landlord who has market rate tenants. The tenants usually have "power".

    The first building the article discussed was 724 Franklin. This building seems like it was a slum, and operated by a slumlord for decades. A tenant reports that the owner sold it because no one was paying rent, and the cash flow was lousy. The new owners, MySpace, quickly flipped it by offering cash to the tenants.

    Once all of the tenants accepted a payout, MySpace renovated the apartments so it could attract people able and willing to pay market rate rents. I think it is safe to state that in the "mind" of MySpace, renovating the apartments for the long term tenants who were paying (or not paying...) very low rents was never an option.

    Compared to the prior landlord, MySpace operated the building while it was in a state of disrepair for a relatively brief period of time. Hence, MySpace is a Flipper and Market Rate Landlord, but not a Slumlord. With me?

    Now, let's move on to the second building profiled: 577 St. Johns. This building has also reportedly been a slum for decades. However, if the two tenants profiled are typical, cash flow might not be bad. One pays $1033, the other $1800.

    This may mean that Elcorno Martin (a landlord who maintains an office at 790 Franklin and owns 577 St. Johns along with several other local buildings), is doing ok financially and won't be willing to take the "fast cash" that MySpace offers.

    If I am right about Mr. Martin having no urge to sell to MySpace, this seems to mean that his tenants (regardless of how much rent they are being charged) are stuck in a crappy apartment and paying their rent for quite sometime. If history is a guide, DOB and the Public Advocate will continue to call him a "Worst Landlord", but do little else.

    Meanwhile, MySpace is able to earn solid $ (see really good analysis by Brownstoner commenter Deano, above) and stay off the Worst Landlord list because it owns buildings in disrepair for a very brief period of time. Smart, comparatively wealthy, prospective tenants check such lists.

    By making all of the units in its buildings [whether they own, broker or manage] market rate, MySpace also fulfills the preferences of people who wish to live near people of similar incomes. In turn, this makes "their" units even more attractive than units in Mr. Martin's mixed-income, poorly maintained buildings.

  • My Space defends itself against the members of the Crown Heights Assembly, and the statements they made in the Narritive.ly article:

    https://docs.google.com/viewer?srcid=0Byy9KCF99MK0cTg1THBZOFVsTXM&pid=explorer&efh=false&a=v&chrome=false&embedded=true

  • I think you'll need to have a google account to access the above Cease and Desist Letter from MySpace's attorney to one of the leaders of the CH Assembly members quoted in the article.

    Readers interested in getting a copy of the letter can PM me, and I'll email it to them.

    Attached files MYSpace_letter_pdf.mht (368.7 KB)
  • FYI I knew the author want to arise controversy. I refused to give him an interview, and I don regret it.

  • Yes. Despite the fact that I think the author did a good job, if I ran a business or a community association (I.E. CHCA) I would not have granted an inteview either.

    The risks from participating would simply outweigh the potential gains.

    Of course, NOT participating has risks too.

    ...some naive readers use the fact someone declined an interview as evidence of people having "something to hide".

  • This discussion is interesting and I feel there are certain elements missing from the discussion. The idea that these apartments are market rate is up for debate. What are the determinants of market rate? It is important to note that the tactics of many of these landlords are in fact displacing many people. Sadly, many of the prior and current tenants in this areas, as well as the new tenants do not understand the rent stabilization laws and statutes that should govern the rates that we all pay. Most of these apartment buildings around here are rent stabilized.

    The fact that many of the prior tenants paid lower rents should compel people to question these new market rate rents. These flippers must be able to justify the improvements that they are making. When the term market rate is used, we are talking about rents above $2500 per the rent laws. There is a lot of illegal mess going on here. I am facing it myself. These landlords do half ass renovations and inflate their numbers and they are committing fraud. A huge component of gentrification is fraud. We all pay a lot to live here.

    Compare what many consider to be low rent with say rent in Alabama. Hey new tenants...you may be overcharged! People who question the impact of gentrification and the very real act of displacement perhaps have never been to housing court. In having an honest conversation about gentrification and how and why it happens and to whom it impacts adversely, we must consider the different parties and what they stand to gain or lose, the rent laws, the agencies ( housing court, DHCR ) .

    Myspace is not alone....who owns your building? How much did the prior tenant pay? Do these half ass renovations justify your rent? Are you paying a preferential rent? Did they even disclose your apartment is subject to rent stabilization? Ignorance abounds and I say that without judgement as it defeats the old tenants, places long term residents in a defensive position and perhaps is resulting in the payment of illegally high rents for new tenants.

  • Market rate is simply what people will pay. If people are paying it, then it's market rate. If the apartment is going vacant because the landlord set the price too high, then that is above market rate.

    Easy, right?

  • Perhaps, or put another way....an apartment that is deregulated. Obviously in nyc one has to consider rent regulations as part of the definition as there are apartments subject to regulation and many that are not. There are many that are illegally deregulated and are now subject to market forces. But much of it is a farce just like the mortgage bubble.

  • bkrest-

    Yes, as you point out, many landlords have concluded that they do not have to consider rent regulations.

    In light of the level of enforcement of the regulations by HCR, many landlords choose to simply ignore the rules.

    Others are a little more clever and increase the amount legally able to be charged by colluding with contractors who create false, inflated invoices.

    This is especially the case in areas (such as Western CH) where there is a large pool of prospective tenants willing to pay above the set rates.

    In such cases:

    -The landlord has little incentive to tell HCR about the actual rate charged, or inform the tenant that the apartment is subject to rent stabilization.

    -The new tenant has a diminished incentive to inform HCR about the actual rate charged, or care whether the apartment is subject to rent stabilization.

    -The former tenant may have "voluntarily" accepted a payment to leave and signed a document waiving their rights to the apartment.

    ...leading the residential mix of the neighborhood to change at a quicker rate than the authors of rent regulations intended.

    http://www.ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/pdfs/publications/Tenant_Rights_2011.pdf

    http://www.actorsfund.org/others/pdfs/NY/Tenants_Rights_Organizations_New_York.pdf

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