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  • chloeroyale
    chloeroyale

    Eastbloc pm me and I will tell u. I will also be waiting for u to deliver it to my door. That's when we will have something for u to hold on to!

  • chloeroyale
    chloeroyale

    But u know Eastbloc I bet u won't come. Talk is cheap and u got a lot of talk.now the ques is can you back it up. Sometimes u need to play it cool because screen names can come to light.i use to hear people like u talking and I would say to myself boy he's got of talk but can he spit those words face to face I bet not!!!!!!

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    ...it seems I will need other researchers to explore my hypothesis.

  • chloeroyale
    chloeroyale

    That's right why not get researchers for your masters thesis

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Nah, more people read this silly message board than most Masters thesis. And, I like some of these characters better.

  • eastbloc
    eastbloc

    I'd offer to buy you coffee sometime, chloe, but you're bound to be disappointed. I'm not known to be meek in person. I'm also more likely to pick up garbage that's not mine than to leave it for others.

  • chloeroyale
    chloeroyale

    Easy bloc that what u say and I know for a fact talk is cheap

  • booklaw
    booklaw

    Take it easy, folks... I'd prefer not to have to close this thread.

  • eastbloc
    eastbloc

    Easy there, sheriff booklaw. There's no reason to close the thread.

    I'll PM chloe about our coffee date. If either of us get hurt, you've got my permission to cooperate with the 77th :)

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Hopefully those two posters are bonding.

    Meanwhile, now that the M-F workweek has resumed, readers might be looking for a way to kill some time. I put forward my hypothesis one more more time:

    whynot_31 said:

    It would not surprise me if there was a correlation between neighborhood change (be it investment/gentrification, or disinvestment/slumification) and 311 utilization.

    People likely use it as a way to try to protect their investments against perceived threats.

    I would hypothesize that the financially and emotionally invested, and those that have good experiences with authorities in the past, tend to use it more than those who are less invested, or have had negative experiences.

  • homeowner
    homeowner

    Actually, Whynot, I'm not sure if there is a correlation. 311 is a very recent addition to the city and provides a very easy, non-confrontational method of voicing displeasure about the behavior of others. Given the fact that 1) its easy; and 2)it means avoiding confrontation I think it probably gets used often by people who previously were either not aggrieved enough to spend time and energy tracking down the correct party to complain to or didn't want to get into a dispute with their neighbors.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Yea, I'm certain 311 has increased the amount of work that city agencies have to do.

    This is good and bad.

    Good: We not longer live in a city where it is common to see things like huge sink holes in the street, where the residents (out of desperation) have resorted to putting shopping carts and trash cans in the holes to warn drivers. Now, the city is made aware of such things and (for the most part) fixes them. ...while some of this can be attributed to having a "richer" city, a lot of it is that the city is able to quickly learn where such problems exist.

    Bad: People depend upon the city to resolve pretty petty disputes. While I am all for giving residents the ability to use the "muscle" of the city, it probably is a lot cheaper and time efficient to politely ask/tell people to cut something annoying out.

    I think some newbies to the neighborhood use 311 more, because they expect the areas to quickly change to their preferences, and/or they don't have the credibility that comes from having long term relationships.

    ...while I am a nice guy, I put more weight on not pissing off neighbors whom I expect to have for years in the future, than ones who I think I am likely to lose because I believe they are moving, or I am moving.

    As the demographics of neighborhoods change, it isn't just the business mix that is forced to change ...it is the norms too.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    xlizellx said:

    Whynot, I agree. I live in Ditmas Park now and supposedly we are one of the top 3 neighborhoods for noise. I say it's crap, though, because it is solely based on 311 noise calls. Meaning it isn't necessarily louder, rather that people complain more here. I prefer to say we are in the top 3 most full-of-complainers neighborhoods. Our place in Crown Heights was WAY louder, but less people called.

    xlizellx-

    Do you think this is because your Ditmas Park neighbors are less transient than your CH ones?

    There is probably some relationship to age, education, wealth, race, and income level ...but I kinda feel like focusing on the transient thing.

    Likewise, maybe your Ditmas Park neighbors have more young infants that they don't want woken up? Or, they work in jobs that make THEM more physically tired than their CH counterparts.

    Or, have they just lived in the city longer and know that complaining about things is not always productive?

    ....It would be interesting to see how often people living in those new condos that have popped up are CH calling 311.

    So many mysteries!

  • chloeroyale
    chloeroyale

    Oh they will be calling regular u said it "its about their investment!"

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