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Select Bus Service and other changes on Nostrand Jan 2013+

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  • The Met and Key foods has shown they can thrive in many types of neighborhoods. Their offerings tend to adapt as the neighborhood changes.

  • Nostrand avenue pub set to open in two to three weeks. Lots of work being done there and new facade is up.

    ditto for bagel place between atlantic and pacific.

    ran into old timer who was glad to see changes on Nostrand. He mentioned that nostrand used to be a pretty swell shopping street. Lets hope that it will be again. I personally would kill for a "fancy korean deli" with all the frills. Its sometimes too far to schlep to Franklin Ave to get something tasty to munch on.

  • We could have our spring gathering at Nostrand Avenue Pub.

  • So they didn't decide on a better name?

  • I haven't heard anything about them changing their name.

    Photos of location:

    BTW, in my experience, bars with uncreative names can still have good beer.

  • i will certainly come to Nostrand ave pub. Its right around the corner from me.

  • Excellent.

    BTW, I have eaten a few times at the new CT Muffin, and like it.

    Is the new Indian place, Mahwah, yummy?

    ....the efforts of the North Crown Heights Nostrand Merchants Association are starting pay off:

    http://nostrandavemerchants.blogspot.com/?m=1

  • I looked in on Nostrand Pub a few days ago.

    It has booths with pew type seating.

    It looks like it has a backyard.

    It has a website, but no content yet: http://nostrandpub.blogspot.com/

    ...I look forward to it opening and our Spring gathering.

    P.S. The address was the site of murder in 2009: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/29/nyregion/29shot.html

  • whynot_31 said:

    My dog and I decided that Nostrand was going to be today's destination.

    We saw several pretty prime storefronts being warehoused by landlords, presumably with the hope that they will be able to recoup the rent lost in the vacant months with higher rents from new tenants.

    We also checked on progress at Hello Living site; they are building a big, market rate, residential building just off Nostrand. Similar buildings were constructed by them just of Washington Ave a few years ago.

    Here's the apex of today's walk in photos:

    Prime corner space, recently vacated

    The Hello Living construction site (Nostrand and Sterling)

    Another prime corner, now vacant

    yet another prime corner, now vacant


    Something good is coming to this corner. It will be in by summer.

  • So Nostrand is the new Franklin. Man this gentrification wave east is an unstoppable tsunami. In 5 years there will be coffee shops and dog hotels on Utica

  • CTK, don't forget baby stores!

  • CTK,

    Brooklyn will only be able to continue its present rate of gentrification (i.e. investment and an increasing tax base) if the larger economy, and the new Mayor cooperate.

    In addition, sometimes physical or socio-economic barriers define a nieghborhood's borders.

    For example, for a long time, Manhattan was MUCH different above and below 96th St. Sociologists and Urban Planners can talk for hours about such subjects, but all seem to agree that the existence of NYCHA projects above 96th st seemed played a role in "delaying" the expansion until relatively recently.

    In CH, the Albany Houses tend to serve as an epicenter for a neighborhood that is bordered by Kingston, Atlantic, Utica and EP. As a result, it would not surprise me if the eastern tsunami you describe pauses (or literally stops) at Kingston.

    As you are aware, the area between Nostrand Ave and Kingston has already undergone a lot of change over the past few years. I hope the residents and businesses located between these avenues are ready for the next few years; they could be similar to those that have ALREADY occurred between Vanderbilt and Nostrand.

  • People said the same about Bushwick, but one of my very good friends was one of many white faces who lived in proximity to Marcy projects. The levee that will break the city's back will be NYCHA's inevitable caving. NYCHA is already embarking on partnerships with private entities looking to build on NYCHA land & engage in "mixed use" strategies for their buildings. One of my good friends lived in a high rise either on or surrounded by NYCHA facilities way down in the LES. It wasn't great but it was doable. The projects in places like East Harlem and Astoria are not bad at all, and for the right price the general public would definitely move in. So I think we all know where NYCHA is headed, and what implications come with that direction.

    And even while folks flee NYC many will still pour in. I think the long term change is NYC is changing from a place where ambitious people come to link up and be with others like them forever, to a place where ambitious people come, start their careers and settle elsewhere. I would say 9 out of 10 young people I know have either mentioned considering or are planning on leaving- the few who remain are rich. So NYC is changing into a developmental pit stop/career boot camp rather than a place for normal people to actually live and grow old.

    Even outside of structural economic issues, there are just fundamental infrastructure problems that might choke growth. The L line is basically at capacity. The 2nd ave line will help a ton, but can you imagine what will happen to the East Side line if all the East Harlem NYCHA developments turn private? Any neighborhood comprised of people living in buildings they don't own is up for grabs, and the infrastructure can't keep up with it.

  • A big part of Nostrand's coming change will be in response to the relatively high income, young people who already live to its east and west.

    They currently pack the "somewhat few" drinking and dining places that meet their preferences on Nostrand.

    As a result of spending quality time on the Nostrand, I am pleased to report that "they" seem to share a variety of hues.

  • I am pretty sure, but not certain, that the new Hello Living to be built on Sterling near Nostrand will be Condos.

    http://helloliving.com/development/hello-sterling/

    Needless to say, these folks will be even better off than many of the renters (long term or new arrivals) in the area.

    It would not surprise me if some of the vacant storefronts are filled with businesses who hope to serve the Hello Living complex's future residents.

    It is going up very quickly:

    A few weeks ago:

    March 8, 2013


  • whynot_31 said:

    A big part of Nostrand's coming change will be in response to the relatively high income, young people who already live to its east and west.

    They currently pack the "somewhat few" drinking and dining places that meet their preferences on Nostrand.

    As a result of spending quality time on the Nostrand, I am pleased to report that "they" seem to share a variety of hues.

    At present, Brooklyn Avenue seems to be an established dividing line.

    However, one can spot the occasional row house gut-renovation between Brooklyn and Kingston. Dumpsters, work permits in windows, the sound of circular saws....

  • It wasnt long ago that Franklin was the established dividing line. Things will keep trucking east, up to and past the Albany houses. I have friends and do a bit of work over there. Its doable.

  • Just about everything is doable and possible.

    Nostrand Avenue's change appears certain.

  • I just want to note that the first picture you posted is the former home of the Starlight Lounge (Brooklyn's oldest gay bar), which had been in that location from the 1960's until last year (or was it 2011?). They were replaced by a 99 cent store and the MetroPCS store. The MetroPCS is now gone. It didn't even last two years.

    While the landlord may have succeeded in getting out a low-rent, long-time tenant for a high-rent, short-term tenant, I've got to believe there is going to be more rapid turnover at this location between months of empty, inactive space.

    PS. When I looked at the Starlight Lounge thread I noted that seven years ago, you could get a gin and grapefruit on Nostrand for $3. :drunken:

    THREE DOLLARS PEOPLE!!!!!!

  • homeowner said:

    I just want to note that the first picture you posted is the former home of the Starlight Lounge (Brooklyn's oldest gay bar), which had been in that location from the 1960's until last year (or was it 2011?). They were replaced by a 99 cent store and the MetroPCS store. The MetroPCS is now gone. It didn't even last two years.

    While the landlord may have succeeded in getting out a low-rent, long-time tenant for a high-rent, short-term tenant, I've got to believe there is going to be more rapid turnover at this location between months of empty, inactive space.

    PS. When I looked at the Starlight Lounge thread I noted that seven years ago, you could get a gin and grapefruit on Nostrand for $3. :drunken:

    THREE DOLLARS PEOPLE!!!!!!

    Daaaaaaamn, you can't even get a PBR for $3 anymore!

  • whynot_31 said:

    I am pretty sure, but not certain, that the new Hello Living to be built on Sterling near Nostrand will be Condos.

    http://helloliving.com/development/hello-sterling/

    Needless to say, these folks will be even better off than many of the renters (long term or new arrivals) in the area.

    It would not surprise me if some of the vacant storefronts are filled with businesses who hope to serve the Hello Living complex's future residents.

    It is going up very quickly:

    A few weeks ago:

    March 8, 2013

    This article makes me believe that the Hello Living project on Sterling and Nostrand will rent up (or sell out) very quickly.

    http://therealdeal.com/issues_articles/brooklyns-building-bonanza/

    ...I'd build it quickly too.

  • Perhaps inspired by my post on 3/12, Brownstoner gave this project some additional coverage on 3/13.

    They are reporting it will be 6 stories, 46 units.

    http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2013/03/more-floors-at-834-sterling-place-build/#disqus_thread

    Thanks Emily!

  • The developers published this photo today, April 3, 2013:


  • BTW, The Starlight Lounge seems to have closed in Jan 2010, after this article was written about its impending demise:

    http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/33/3/33_03_ac_starlight_lounge.html

    I believe this photo was taken in March 2004:



    photo: http://www.bridgeandtunnelclub.com/bigmap/brooklyn/crownheights/nostrandave/index.htm

    P.S. In case you are wondering why Nostrand is changing, real estate blogs like this will help you understand the means of the residents: http://bktothefullest.blogspot.com/2013/04/castle-closes-in-crown-heights-875-st.html

  • On the corner of Nosstrand and Lincoln, presenting Lula Bagel. Opening in June.

    From the owners of Lula Bean - http://www.yelp.com/biz/lula-bean-brooklyn

  • Nice! Do you know which corner?

    NW, NE,

    SW, SE ?

  • The former Feeding Tree space. NW corner.

  • They have bagels (obviously), coffee, pastries, a decent selection of fresh bread, and paninis.

  • Whynot, is your new signature a personal quote or was it lifted from an article?

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