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Cafe Allegria Closed: Bagels for St Marks near Franklin: June 2013 — Brooklynian

Cafe Allegria Closed: Bagels for St Marks near Franklin: June 2013

whynot_31
whynot_31
edited October 2014 in Crown Heights/Prospect Lefferts Gardens

From trusted poster, Tsarina:

tsarina said:

not knowing where i left off in the discussion of developement on or off Franklin.... The Fresh bagel bakery on St. Marks just east of Franklin will open within two months. He is filing for LLC and then it will be a done deal. All the permit are ready. Just talked to him today.

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  • eastbloc
    eastbloc

    Hopefully they will be real bagels, not those puffy things.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Hopefully Tsarina can give me the street address, that way I can put up a dated photo from a few years ago.

    I am a preservationist.

  • tsarina
    tsarina

    545 St. marks. Provisions, bagels, mmmm. I'm getting hungry. The guy will be making them on the premises.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Unless you are talking about the dinky vacant lot, I think you mean 543 St. Marks, aka 659 Franklin Ave. ...The construction supply business on the corner.

  • hellobklyn
    hellobklyn

    Nice to know!! Will be visiting

  • mr. met
    mr. met

    wow -- that place is finally getting fixed up!

  • tsarina
    tsarina

    no I mean 545 St. Marks. The first house on st. marks. It has paper on the ground floor business windows and it looks like a normal house except for the ground floor glass doors. Check Google maps.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    545 St. Marks is technically the little vacant lot to the left of the building.

    545 photo:



    http://www.propertyshark.com/mason/Property/151049/545-St-Marks-Ave-Brooklyn-NY-11216/

    The correct street address for the building that Tsarina has heard will house a bagel shop is, (drum roll) 547!.

    547 is the building to the right of the vacant lot. Part of what perplexed me is that this location was first floor of a house on a seemingly residential street, and I was looking at the old Propertyshark photo.

    Then, I found an article in Brownstoner which talked about how 547 did a major renovation in 2010, which involved an extension, and it then received a mixed use Certificate of Occupancy:

    http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2010/09/new-house-at-56/

    547 After renovation

    Photo: Brownstoner

    545-547 Most recent photo:



    Photo: Google street view

    545 and 547 seem to be owned by the same person, and the house might even have 545 on it because the lots are now effectively combined.

    MMMMM, bagels

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    mr. met said:

    wow -- that place is finally getting fixed up!

    Mr. Met, it seems like 543 St. Marks, (aka 659 Franklin, the ugly construction building on the corner) will remain in its present form for a while longer, but I predict it TOO will change soon.

  • tsarina
    tsarina

    (Have the drugs kicked in?) Yes. That is the beast. Fresh bagels for all! 659 Franklin might feel the need to get developed. The Vacant lot they used for storing Building Supplies is being developed and it looks like ... apartments. But back to bagels. That vacant lot will be the patio where people will sit and drink coffee and crunch on bagels. Add a pool and I will move in full time. Should be good.

  • ehgee
    ehgee

    Will there be a BAGEL GARDEN?

  • tsarina
    tsarina

    if its all grass does it qualify as a garden? There will be outside seating i've been told.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    I wish to go on record as stating that I prefer a "bagel garden" over the present empty lot that is used to park the above black SUV.

    ...At lunch time, I would imagine one could eat turkey bagelwiches with a Snapple and chips at such a garden.

  • newguy88
    newguy88

    whynot_31 said:

    ...At lunch time, I would imagine one can eat turkey bagelwiches with a Snapple and chips at said gardens.

    Or a fresh onion bagel with cream cheese and a Dr. Browns. Yes we do need a good bagel place!

  • eastbloc
    eastbloc

    It will be at 547? That's bizarre.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    tsarina wrote: He is filing for LLC and then it will be a done deal. All the permit are ready. Just talked to him today.

    As per Tsarina and Brownstoner, the owner of 545-547 has accomplished the following things:

    1. Massive extension on house, approved via DOB.

    2. Changed Certificate of Occupancy from "Residential" TO "Commercial first floor and Residential above"

    I need clarification from Tsarina as to what "All the permit are ready. " means. Does this mean that the owner has received the permits from DOB to install a code compliant commercial kitchen?

    ....In comparison to the above, establishing a LLC is only a minor hurdle.

  • tsarina
    tsarina

    the kitchen is in. everything is ready to go. Only the LLC needs to be filed and they are good to go - after a huge wait....

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    I take this to mean that DOH has approved the kitchen.

    whoa.

    ...this owner gets things done.

  • newguy88
    newguy88

    So, its at the bottom of the owners house? That's a new one.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Lots of places are zoned mixed use (commercial first floor and residential above), and -when it is a small building- the owners often live above.

    However, these are usually located on pretty main through fares.

    ...It has been over a month since we last got an update, has anyone heard when it will have its Grand Opening?

  • tsarina
    tsarina

    last weekend he said next month. how tiresome! at least we have the new wedge to enjoy!

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    May 13, 2013

    Breaking news:

    547 St. Marks is in the process of applying for a lic to sell beer and wine, and would like to utilize its outdoor space for consumption of same.

    It looks like we may get more than a bagel garden out of this deal....

    This place could become named Café Allegria

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    This place will describe their business concept at the June 3 CB8 SLA mtg.

    ....it looks like it is going to happen.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    He has agreed not to serve beer and wine past 8 PM on Mon - Sat nights.

    Sunday he won't be able serve past 3 pm.

  • newguy88
    newguy88

    whynot_31 said:

    He has agreed not to serve beer and wine past 8 PM on Mon - Sat nights.

    Sunday he won't be able serve past 3 pm.

    Wow that's gonna kill his business if he ever moves past bagels. The CB is begin more totalitarian in terms of booze.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    The closing time can't be blamed on the CB. The owner only wanted to serve until 8 PM.

    This venue is sounding more like Neptune II, on Classon. If he wants to serve later, he can ask for that in a few years, at renewal.

    BTW, given how slow NYS SLA can be, we aren't likely to be able to buy beer here until August, at the earliest. Hopefully he will begin serving bagels and sandwiches much sooner.

  • tsarina
    tsarina

    neon fresh bagel sign spotted in window!

  • newguy88
    newguy88

    So who do you think is going to have better bagels this place or Lula on Nostrand?

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Lula has made bagels before, and has another existing location. Lula will specialize in breads and bagels, whereas Cafe Allegria may be allowed to pursue mediocrity because he will have income from beer.

    I vote Lula.

  • newguy88
    newguy88

    That makes sense. Jack of all trades yet master of none.

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