MTV VMA's at Barclays Aug 25, 2013
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Will Daniel Goldstein and his minions protest this event? Oh, that's right, Ratner already purchased Goldstein's silence.
Either way, this will help Norman Oder to justify his own existence for at least one more day.
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it takes a special kind of person to insult someone who lost their home as well insulting as an entire neighborhood of people who worked hard to keep their neighborhood's character. especially three years after it occurred. on a post that has nothing to do with it. thanks for making this forum lame.
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You are very welcome, sir/madam!
That was always the problem with the anti-AY types: they equated the slightest hint of criticism as a personal attack. That's one of the many reasons why their efforts were an abject failure.
If you consider being paid $3,000,000 for an apt. valued at $700K to be "losing one's home", then you are lamer than I.
For the record, I was "insulting" all of these types long before you ever registered on this board, not "three years after it occurred".
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i'll take jack's bait. the a.y. project was sold on a bundle of false promises for the condemnation of private property by government for private gain, including by declaring the rapidly developing north end of our neighborhood blighted in order to tear it down and create the blight it was ostensibly intended to remedy, and for the foreseeable future. the iconic gehry design? gone. the promised jobs? didn't happen. affordable housing? nope. once the project got its approvals, the public benefits it was sold on somehow vaporized. it's still an issue, whether or not one person got a better deal when he was forced to move, which he inarguably was. whatever you think of that, the greater crime is surely that done to our neighborhood. all the celebrity glitz in the world won't change that.
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Thanks, Smokin' Joe, for nailing it. Jack Krohn doesn't know what the f he's talking about.
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The fascists took my grandparents' home to give to a Nazi officer, and then the Communists took their vineyard. But after reading Jack Krohn, I realize my family was just a bunch of NIMBY crybabies who were against progress.
Ugh. The reality is that Dan Goldstein is out of the picture. Bruce Ratner and his Russian oligarch friends are the ones who are continuing to steal our money. It just so happens that I was rereading the Urban Development Corporation determinations regarding AY, and I was reminded that the official reason to do the project was the cover up the Vanderbilt Railyard and other blighting influences. It turns out that Ratner isn't going to bother to cover up those railyards for another 15 years, if we're lucky.
So, I can safely say that my 4 year old daughter is more mature in talking about Atlantic Yards than Jack Krohn.
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um, regardless of how one feels about the arena, this seems like it is the first really big event.
http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/36/34/dtg_vmasupdate_2013_08_23_bk.html
....if they do well, I expect such events to become pretty common
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I predict this event is going to suck for the people living in the immediate neighborhood. Its going to be a blip for everyone else.
At some point the people living in the immediate neighborhood will either 1)get used to the 2-3 massive street closing events at the Barclays each year or 2) will move.
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I don't think the effect will be a lot different than the West Indian Parade has for those living on Eastern Parkway.
-Some enjoy the festivities
-Others flee the noise and pervasive smell of jerk chicken.
-etc
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whynot_31 said:
I don't think the effect will be a lot different than the West Indian Parade has for those living on Eastern Parkway.And who are still living on Eastern Parkway because no one tore down their homes or businesses to make room for the parade. The parade displaces people for a few days a year, and it's unique to the character of the neighborhood. Whereas the arena has permanently changed the neighborhood, for events that could have happened anywhere, and would still be happening even if there were no arena.
I mean, to be fair, I've gotten to like the arena despite myself. But Daniel Goldstein and the other AY opponents turned out to be 100% right. The stadium was built, with our money, for the benefit of Ratner and his partners. The rest of the land we gave away -- the blocks and blocks of rubble to the east of the stadium -- is now up for sale. The local businesses we lost are being replaced with worthless t-shirt shops and the restaurants and bars we moved to Brooklyn to avoid. And we're going to hide out from our own neighborhood on Sunday night.
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grifting the public
has been the time-told story
prophecy fulfilled
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seriously jack
with three million dollar digs
how could they claim blight?
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I kinda liked the blimp.
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We couldn't read it from so far away but certainly saw the blimp. What did it say?
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floating typo: surrender bouncee
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