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Karma? Did I miss something? - Page 2 — Brooklynian

Karma? Did I miss something?

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  • candicissima
    candicissima
    Flexichick wrote: I highly suspect faster-than-allowed-for-regular-posters ratings by the moderators (even the "rules" verifies this), which means it's only a reflection of how THEY view you. That's pretty pathetic.
    If you think that, it shows how self-centered and paranoid you are. Mods have better things to do than give random smites to someone we don't even know/care about. Considering it's a community of hundreds, maybe most of the smites come from other people who, you know, may disagree with things you say. It may not be right, but who cares?

    If the biggest topic of most of your days are a random addition of a thing meant to be a little fun and silly, you need lives. And if the "Gang of 5" was going to get all Big Brother on you, it wouldn't be from an ineffective point system.
  • bklyn6
    bklyn6
    I just smote Candisscima (or whatever your name is) AND I call "bullshit".
  • candicissima
    candicissima
    Flexichick wrote: I just smote Candisscima (or whatever your name is) AND I call "bullshit".
    See, you might be a rude bitch, but I won't give you the satisfaction of smiting. Though if I wanted to, you could be so low that you'd make Armchair look good.
  • raw
    raw

    Subject: I vote we get rid of the Karma thing.

    I thought most of us were older than 15. I vote we get rid of the Karma thing. Many of us suffered enough of this crap in highschool. Kill karma!
  • alminacpants
    alminacpants
    Candicissima wrote: [quote=Flexichick]I just smote Candisscima (or whatever your name is) AND I call "bullshit".
    See, you might be a rude bitch, but I won't give you the satisfaction of smiting. Though if I wanted to, you could be so low that you'd make Armchair look good.

    I can see why many might not like Armchair, but I find it quite suspicious that he ended up with -35 so fast.

    Being called a "rude bitch", by you....well, how sweet! And here I thought you didn't care.
  • livetotravel
    livetotravel
    Candicissima wrote: [quote=Flexichick]I just smote Candisscima (or whatever your name is) AND I call "bullshit".
    See, you might be a rude bitch, but I won't give you the satisfaction of smiting. Though if I wanted to, you could be so low that you'd make Armchair look good.

    Ummm - could this :shock: be a case of Mod Meltdown?
  • jacquie
    jacquie
    Livetotravel wrote: [quote=Candicissima][quote=Flexichick]I just smote Candisscima (or whatever your name is) AND I call "bullshit".
    See, you might be a rude bitch, but I won't give you the satisfaction of smiting. Though if I wanted to, you could be so low that you'd make Armchair look good.

    Ummm - could this :shock: be a case Mod Meltdown?

    Me thinks she doth protest too much!

    Perhaps I struck a nerve :lol: I love the mature response, though. Made me giggle
  • apollonia666
    apollonia666
    Oh my Maude, the drama! :)

    No "gang" of however many instituted the karma thing. Some of the admins (which is a smaller group than the moderators, with even more diabolical powers) have been experimenting with various phBB modifications, mostly just to see what's fun and what's not. Some people are getting a giggle out of the karma thing, and others clearly aren't, but either way, it's not going to affect whether you can post here or not. Some joking about that made its way into the thread about this on the PH board, but it was only joking.

    For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure the mods don't get to use the karma/smite feature any more often than other users. IMHO, any problems with the quality of discussion here are more related to the amount of cluttery posts and spam, and at least the spam situation has gotten better since the addition of some other modifications the admins have installed.
  • restless native
    restless native
    Do a search on "karma" and find the original (I think) posting on the PH thread and you will see that one of the moderators clearly stated that they can use the karma feature more often than regular posters.

    Either way, the concept doesn't seem to be going over too well. Neither does the "guest" log in feature, but the moderators seem to choose to ignore whatever suggestions they don't agree with (which I suppose is their right, just as our right to call "bullshit").
  • whyfi
    whyfi
    Flexichick wrote: I love the mature response, though. Made me giggle
    Let's be honest - how many immature responses have there been in this thread? There have been plenty from all sides, but I still find it amusing that so many are fighting because it's SO lame, SO immature, SO this-and-that. So many are voicing the opinion that it's beneath them, yet the attention they're giving it seems to indicate otherwise... :?
  • lyinsan
    lyinsan
    WhyFi wrote: [quote=Flexichick]I love the mature response, though. Made me giggle
    Let's be honest - how many immature responses have there been in this thread? There have been plenty from all sides, but I still find it amusing that so many are fighting because it's SO lame, SO immature, SO this-and-that. So many are voicing the opinion that it's beneath them, yet the attention they're giving it seems to indicate otherwise... :?

    I agree with that. 10 days of rain and captivity = boredom, obviously.

    Time to do something more productive than give InvisaPeeps meaningless "karma". REAL karma will manifest itself when all is said and done.
  • whyfi
    whyfi
    Flexichick wrote: 10 days of rain and captivity = boredom, obviously.
    :shock: Do you live in the Amazon or in England?!

    Here I thought this was a Park Slope message board...

    I kid! I kid!
  • livetotravel
    livetotravel
    WOW! Well, giving credence to the conspiracy theory of who's hitting the karma trigger - Candicissima went from -3 to +2 in a heart beat and flexi the other direction in the same timeframe.

    Curious that.
  • whyfi
    whyfi
    Livetotravel wrote: WOW! Well, giving credence to the conspiracy theory of who's hitting the karma trigger - Candicissima went from -3 to +2 in a heart beat and flexi the other direction in the same timeframe.

    Curious that.
    There are 9 possible voters online right now.
  • meanderthal
    meanderthal
    Karma ratings would work except for the fact that we’re human. In discussing anything, we each come to the table with different premises, and even the most fair and rational among us commit occasional lapses of logic. It’s no wonder we disagree so much, because we’re often not thinking straight or not focusing on the subject.

    I think that in the best of worlds, karma points should be awarded on the basis of how well-stated someone’s point is—regardless of her/his side of the argument. The object of debate should be not to win, but to seek truth. A well-stated point given courteously and dispassionately might merit a point; an ad hominem attack or a non sequitur might be worth a smite. We shouldn’t exercise those tools merely because we agree or disagree with people, or like/dislike them.

    Just my two-cents :)
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    Some basic facts as groundwork for further discussion:

    1. There are 9 mods and 2 admins (6 mods for the PS board alone)
    2. Mods are not currently limited by time between applause and smitings
    3. I'm not aware of any mods using this power to multi-applaud or multi-smite anyone, although we may applaud or smite different people without waiting for 10 minutes
    4. No one is getting voted off the island
    5. The whole karma thing is an experiment that the admins are running, and probably won't last more than a week at most
    6. Everyone is taking this way too seriously

    For what it's worth, I originally thought the karma thing was funny and kind of cool, but I don't like how it's making everyone totally paranoid, and now I think we should get rid of it.
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    meanderthal wrote: Karma ratings would work except for the fact that we’re human. In discussing anything, we each come to the table with different premises, and even the most fair and rational among us commit occasional lapses of logic. It’s no wonder we disagree so much, because we’re often not thinking straight or not focusing on the subject.

    I think that in the best of worlds, karma points should be awarded on the basis of how well-stated someone’s point is—regardless of her/his side of the argument. The object of debate should be not to win, but to seek truth. A well-stated point given courteously and dispassionately might merit a point; an ad hominem attack or a non sequitur might be worth a smite. We shouldn’t exercise those tools merely because we agree or disagree with people, or like/dislike them.

    Just my two-cents :)
    Well-said! =D>
  • rose
    rose
    I have to say I'm surprised to see a moderator calling a poster a "bitch."

    Also, Dave, if you are going to use the word "douche," I want you to spell it correctly, but I would really prefer if you would pick a word without misogynistic overtones. (I'm just bringing this up because I've noticed you using the word before and it bugged me, so since people are being so, um, honest in this thread . . . )

    This board can seem a bit cliquey and yeah, incestial, and the karma feature just intensifies that. It's going to discourage new people from posting (or registering).
  • brooklynpotter
    brooklynpotter
    Carnivore wrote:
    For what it's worth, I originally thought the karma thing was funny and kind of cool, but I don't like how it's making everyone totally paranoid, and now I think we should get rid of it.
    i thought it was funny and cool till i got a negative rating. and yes, i know it doesn't matter in the real world. and it doesn't even matter on this board. but people, no matter how self assured or nice or whatever, have a tendency to feel crummy when being insulted (or smited). it's human nature to want everyone to like you.

    i think that's why this thread has gone over the top; we shouldn't give a rat's ass about being unpopular on the board. it's a message board, for crying out loud. but who doesn't remember being smited as a kid. that stuff is deep, deep down, and we forget it's there until some juvenile thing reminds us we might not be popular.

    and just an FYI, in real life i'm very popular.
  • armchair_warrior
    armchair_warrior
    btw guys they gave the more vocal ones on these boards negative karma hehe and i'm proud.

    it really means nothing.
  • steve
    steve
    I think the karma thing is about the stupidest thing ever. It detracts from the supposed purpose of the board and makes an already incestial board even moreso. I'm particularly sympathetic to those it reminds of high school.

    That said, I'm fascinated by the reaction to it and I wouldn't mind if it was given a tryout of a few weeks. I'd like to see if the numbers go anywhere interesting. I'm fascinated by social tension like this.

    Mod note: The word "incestial" should only be used ironically. When speaking seriously, try to stick to "incestuous".

    Steve note: I reserve the right to add and remove words from my vocabulary as I see fit. I have decided that incestial is a lighter version of incestous and is appropriate in this context. I also like the word resumize which I define as the process of crafting a resume that fits your needs as opposed to one that reflects reality.

    Mod note: Ha! :lol:
  • armchair_warrior
    armchair_warrior
    doesnt this make you wish you never left hs.
  • quijibo
    quijibo
    let's give this karma thing more than 1 week to see if we want to keep it or not

    at least until armchair gets into the positive range

    i'm giving you applause each time i log on armchair! :P
  • steve
    steve
    I'm joining with Q in building back armchair. Dude's not on my enemy's list.
  • armchair_warrior
    armchair_warrior
    quijibo wrote: let's give this karma thing more than 1 week to see if we want to keep it or not

    at least until armchair gets into the positive range

    i'm giving you applause each time i log on armchair! :P
    bro :)

    /hugs
    <3

    yeah some guys when this thing started every 10 mins my my negative went up lol. thats how long the timer is.
  • livetotravel
    livetotravel
    Carnivore wrote: Some basic facts as groundwork for further discussion:

    1. There are 9 mods and 2 admins (6 mods for the PS board alone)
    2. Mods are not currently limited by time between applause and smitings
    3. I'm not aware of any mods using this power to multi-applaud or multi-smite anyone, although we may applaud or smite different people without waiting for 10 minutes
    I'm quite certain, that human nature being what it is, that no Mod (I love that term - has a certain Carnaby Street vibe to it) would ever consider abusing this unfettered access to the karma trigger. Perish the thought. :roll:
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    Livetotravel wrote: I'm quite certain, that human nature being what it is, that no Mod (I love that term - has a certain Carnaby Street vibe to it) would ever consider abusing this unfettered access to the karma trigger. Perish the thought. :roll:
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  • livetotravel
    livetotravel
    Carnivore wrote: [quote=Livetotravel]I'm quite certain, that human nature being what it is, that no Mod (I love that term - has a certain Carnaby Street vibe to it) would ever consider abusing this unfettered access to the karma trigger. Perish the thought. :roll:
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    Cleverness always scores high karma points in my book =D> =D> =D>
  • apollonia666
    apollonia666
    Flexichick wrote: Do a search on "karma" and find the original (I think) posting on the PH thread and you will see that one of the moderators clearly stated that they can use the karma feature more often than regular posters.
    Oh, okay. I missed that. I haven't been using the smiting/applauding thing that much, honestly.
    Flexichick wrote: Either way, the concept doesn't seem to be going over too well. Neither does the "guest" log in feature, but the moderators seem to choose to ignore whatever suggestions they don't agree with (which I suppose is their right, just as our right to call "bullshit").
    There's a lot of disagrement among the mods and admins about stuff like guest logins, actually. Believe it or not, we aren't an evil, monolithic, group-thinking whole.
  • lsexeny
    lsexeny
    apollonia666 wrote: [quote=Flexichick]Do a search on "karma" and find the original (I think) posting on the PH thread and you will see that one of the moderators clearly stated that they can use the karma feature more often than regular posters.
    Oh, okay. I missed that. I haven't been using the smiting/applauding thing that much, honestly.
    Flexichick wrote: Either way, the concept doesn't seem to be going over too well. Neither does the "guest" log in feature, but the moderators seem to choose to ignore whatever suggestions they don't agree with (which I suppose is their right, just as our right to call "bullshit").
    There's a lot of disagrement among the mods and admins about stuff like guest logins, actually. Believe it or not, we aren't an evil, monolithic, group-thinking whole.

    Fair enough, but the idea that one of the mods immediately resorted to calling me a bitch is pretty damn pathetic (and I will applaud Rose for saying something similiar above).

    I had another laugh when my friend just mailed my my monthly horoscope:

    "If an individual turns out not to be your focus, then a group or community that you belong to could be your concern. You may be rejected by a club you may have applied to for membership, or you may have a difference of opinion with the board that governs the organization. "

    Maybe she's onto something with this particular horoscope site being right on the money :lol:
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