Hey Mazon Discount Store on Franklin, when are you going to sell?
776 Franklin is one story.
In light of Franklin's recent rezoning, and rapidly increasing demand for buildable sites in the area, this property is now more valuable (and under utilized) than ever.
tick, tick, tick.
zoning: http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/topic/crown-heights-west-zoning-fun
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I would guess he (or his family) will sell when they no longer want to run the business or, when the business is no longer viable. And I would guess that they would look at developing it themselves before they would divest. So short answer, no time soon.
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I hope they stay, as I've found them useful to have around for various last minute needs that others around dont have.
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Mazon Discount has several locations in the area, and used to have a location on the site of the building being constructed at EP and Franklin. They tried to develop that site by themselves, then got financially stuck somehow, and finally sold it to a developer.
My theory is that they will do a similar thing to this site in the near future, and/or continue to own the property but rent the site to something more profitable than a Discount Store.
My prediction is that something significant happens to this site by Dec 31, 2014.
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I've heard from a birdie that this store is not as profitable as it was before and that the owner only wanted to keep it to be close to his (former) property across the street.
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It would not surprise me if his business at this location has fallen off; the neighborhood may have changed to the degree that fewer people purchase low price goods.
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Right, because people who live with two or three roommates to an apartment in that area don't look for lower priced goods.
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I don't doubt that its not exactly brisk business at either Mazon or the other 99c type store across the street from them. Not exactly a steady stream of people going through.
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In addition to there now being more profitable uses for this land (tear the existing structure down and build housing, or keep the structure and convert it to yet another restaurant), I think Target stores are playing a role.
There, folks can buy slightly better quality goods at similar prices, while wondering just where all those teenagers in khacki pants and red shirts will go to college.
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I don't know how many people would want to live on that corner as the noise would be terrible unless they were a few floors up. And not every parcel of land has to be utilized to its fullest. That is why there are single family homes built on 40 or 50 acres that aren't farms and aren't going to be subdivided. Besides, since that land is taxed on its present use I'm sure that they're quite low for a commercial property.
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So, you believe that this will still be a Mazon store on Dec 31, 2014?
Note: I have no information I am not disclosing, and believe the stakes in this "wager" to be miniscule. My level of emotional investment is low.
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I just wonder why there is this push to maximize usage and density, even in the face of a seeming lack of interest by the owner in greater density? Wasn't the lesson learned with the community garden space? We went from having a disinterested owner who allowed his property to be used for community space to a property with inflated value and no use. Why should we speculate when Mazon will sell, as if the flipping of this property is going to do anything for the rest of us other than put ongoing upward pressure and result in more of this.
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You are correct, him selling the land might negatively affect the rest of us. I'll admit, I am not really looking out for "our" interests in this conversation.
Also, I don't know that the new owners of 730 Franklin paid so much for the lot that it can't be built upon without taking a loss.
As a result of appreciation, the owners of 730 could have already made a bunch of virtual $ and are seeing if the market will increase even further before they decide to sell the lot to a developer.
From what I understand, real estate firms are approaching the owners of single story properties throughout the area that are "under built" in relation to the zoning code, and offering them substansial sums of money.
...and we are not talking about the shady, prey on the poor "Cash for land" firms.
Hence, even if he is currently selling lots of cheap goods for a profit, it would not surprise me if Mr. Mazon was making substansially more money from property appreciation at his locations on Nostrand and Franklin.
(I assume he owns the buildings, not just leases).
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Maybe so but not everyone is induced by money or knows when it's the best time to sell. That's why Trump's Taj Mahal in AC is built around that woman's house. She thought she would get pie in the sky money and now she's stuck with a parcel that isn't worth the dirt it's built on. Besides, I suspect that because the taxes are low the store doesn't have to make big bucks to remain open, it just has to remain profitable.
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So, PG, I can put you down as "Mazon's will still be at 776 Franklin on Dec 31, 2014"?
Done.
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I suspect they will. I'm only hoping that I will.
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Why would building more apartments on underutilized lots lead to higher rents? It's true that if a neighborhood is so tightly zoned that nothing new can be built, it might stay relatively shabby, and thus it'll take longer to gentrify than otherwise. But there's not much new construction in Park Slope or the West Village, and both of those neighborhoods are incredibly expensive. In general, when a bunch of people want to live in a city, as is true in Brooklyn/New York right now, that high demand with stagnant supply is what leads to skyrocketing rents.
Chicago sees a lot of new construction, and is a lot cheaper than New York.
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The Mazon Store building is called a "tax payer". iTS A SINGLE story building that is holding a place until it is economically viable to develop something there. When someone builds something there it is because the neighborhood has progressed enough that the financial outlay will be covered by the rent or sales of those units. Who would spend money in developing buildings in an area where people cant pay enough to make it worthwhile?
Park Slope and the Village are all pretty throughly developed and I think you would be hard pressed to find someplace to build there. Those are also considered "safer" and have more amenities and hence are more "desirable". -
Park Slope and the Village have plenty of relatively-modest structures of little historic significance where it would be practical to build sizable apartment buildings, as they did in the period when the city's population often rose by a million people in the course of a decade:
http://southslopenews.com/blog/history/photo-flashback-before-the-prospect-park-ymca
When new construction doesn't get built in high-demand neighborhoods like Park Slope, people who would live there instead move into neighboring areas like this one.Prices in NYC are high enough to support new construction pretty much anywhere along the subway lines. Check out, for example, Brooklyn Chinatown in Sunset Park, or huge areas of Queens, or South Williamsburg.
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Many of the single story buildings that exist in areas zoned for greater density (such as large swaths of Manhattan) are there because they sold their air rights to a nearby developer, or (as Tsarina points out) exist merely to pay taxes on an appreciating property that will eventually be built upon.
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Many insignificant building owners are fine with their building such as they are. They are pulling in good incomes and may not want to sell to developers to tear down and build a high rise. Also those neighborhoods may not be zoned for high rises. Good article in Gothamist regarding gentrification and I'm too lazy to search for it and paste it in.
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Sell out, … oh yeah with me tonight…
Sell out and everything will be alright
Which band sang this song?
Come on Brooklonians!!!!!
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Many insignificant building owners are fine with their building such as they are. They are pulling in good incomes and may not want to sell to developers to tear down and build a high rise. Also those neighborhoods may not be zoned for high rises.
All true. But when most of New York City within an easy commute to the job centers of Manhattan is zoned such that it's difficult to build much taller than currently, and improved urban quality of life combined with high Manhattan salaries and US population growth leads to ever-increasing numbers of people wanting to live in central parts of New York City, then there's no way to avoid skyrocketing prices in the city. That's why the zoning code ought to be redesigned to allow more apartments to be built, rather than the current code, which often encourages small buildings, and in the outer boroughs requires unnecessary parking for buildings over a certain size, which adds a lot of expense and makes many traditional dense designs impractical.Tight rent regulations, which can serve a valid social purpose, still just make access to the benefits of the city a lottery that benefits a few people so long as there aren't more rent-regulated units being built. My apartment is rent-stabilized and was barely advertised when it came open a couple years ago, and despite the landlord doing a ton of renovations to jack up the price, there were still a ton of people at the showing and something like 5 applicants. I'm pretty sure my roommate and I got the place because we both have professional salaries and savings, and the landlord also likely hopes that because we're young roommates, we'll move on relatively soon and they might be able to jack the rent up out of stabilization.
I have no love for landlords or developers, and a lot of new construction in NYC is disgustingly ugly (probably because people are so desperate for housing that they don't care if the building is ugly). But building a lot of new apartments in the city, often on the footprint of existing buildings, is the only way we'll avoid having a city where only the rich can find an apartment, unless the city again gets so bad that people want to move out en masse.
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I wonder if this building will remain largely intact, but be converted into a bar/restaurant.
With the right fortifications, the roof could make an excellent open air area for eating and drinking.
That might be as profitable as a 6 story condo on the site.
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