Man attacking dogs in Prospect Park
Hey I just saw this article on the Gothamist and thought I should share it. He apparently has an ice pick and an aggressive pit bull. I totally missed the thread in about this in the pet section and thought it was worth reposting. http://gothamist.com/2013/08/05/theres_a_man_in_prospect_park_attac.php
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Yes, the more places we post this, the better.
http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-pets/test-12
I am pretty sure I came across this guy a few years ago, when he was outside the park and had his dog on a leash.
He and his dog were walking North on Washington (along the Bklyn Botanical Garden), and my dog and I were walking South.
Although we were still about 150' away from each other, he started yelling at me and threating me with his cane: "We are going to fuck you up! We are going to fuck you up"
We crossed the street pronto. I had only heard rumors of him since.
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Thank you guys for sharing and commenting.
The police apparently apprehended the guy this morning and one of the victim-dog's owners positively IDed the suspect. Hopefully Gothamist will provide an update when more details are available.
Since posting the flyers, we've heard from a number of other dog owners that have been victimized by this guy. One woman's dog was killed in an attack in Robert McNair Park, and the suspect himself has assaulted other owners on at least a couple of occasions.
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This sooo sounds like the guy I encountered a few years ago.
Glad he has been arrested.
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Glad this nut case and his dog are out of our park and off our streets.
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We should not celebrate too much.
Experience shows that any jail time he receives will likely be short, and he may be released without any follow up mental health care.
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And he can get a fresh pit bull from any shelter as soon as he gets out.
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This guy clearly needs some help with mental issues. I really think that if he would leash his dog, and maybe even neuter it, the majority of problems people have with him would be over. What happens is that the dog isn't right by him and then a dog on dog scuffle happens and the most dangerous part is the man's reaction to it all. Just being able to pull his dog back via a leash would make it much easier to prevent and deal with problems.
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I know of several people with large, very dog aggressive dogs that nobody is talking about. Nobody really knows them because they keep their dogs on leash and avoid off-leash areas in the morning. If the dog does try to go for another dog, the leash with a responsible owner at the other end keeps it from being a problem.
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Let's play psychologist for a moment:In addition to not being well, it would not surprise me if this guy has once been attacked by a dog.
As a result, he keeps his dog and weapons always "at the ready" for future attack on him or his dog.
As a result, he doesn't want a neutered dog and isn't going to keep it on a leash.
...he wants a dog that creates a big, mean protective circle around him. 150' was his comfort zone in my situation.
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Patch wrote: The owner of a pitbull that has been attacking dogs in Prospect Park for months was arrested Monday morning police said.
Donnell Barden, 52, of Foster Avenue in Flatbush, was charged with animal cruelty and remains in police custody.
Eric Barstad told Patch that not only was the dog attacking other dogs in the park, put the owner was as well—with an ice pick.
According to Barstad, one morning in May, the pitbull ran up to the Lab/Husky mix of a friend of his and began attacking him. Then the owner caught up to the brawling dogs. But a=nd instead of separating them, he pulled out an ice pick and stabbed the Lab/Husky nine times in the shoulders.
The friend filed a police report. A few weeks later, he saw the dog owner in the park and was able to point him out to cops. But the cops referred him to the 78th Precinct and did not pursue the owner.
On Friday, the pitbull attacked the dog of another friend, prompting Barstad and some friends to make up a warning flyer and post it on Prospect Heights Patch as well as around the park.
http://prospectheights.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/owner-of-prospect-park-attack-dog-arrested
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The pieces begin to come together:
The Daily News is reporting that the suspect is actually 42, was last in prison for Attempted Murder and Robbery, and was released in 2010.
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My dog and I had the unfortunate displeasure of running into this guy and his dog last year at McNair Park. I could tell something was "off" with him when his dog came up aggressively and he did nothing except ask weird questions and give a weird vibe. The dog didn't do anything but I could sense the possibility of something happening if my dog reacted instead of just walking away uninterested like he did. Since then I've seen him a couple of times in the same park, I've nodded "hello" but got no response and in fact got a stare-down. The dude is definitely not all there so since then if I'd see him from a distance I'd keep moving away, fast. And when I saw this poster yesterday at Prospect Pk and just knew it had to be the same guy. Happy to know he won't be threat anymore, well at least for a while I hope.
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The Patch has even more info. Mack is the name of the ice pick guy's dog. From the Patch piece:
That same Friday, Mack attacked a dog who was out running with its owner. The runner grabbed Mack's collar, and then Barden allegedly grabbed the other man's dog's cooler, thrust him toward Mack and said "Eat it! Eat it!"
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This is messed up.
Janice Brown, a Park Slope resident whose Doberman Pinscher, Brandon, was allegedly attacked by Bardon's dog last Friday, was called to testify before a grand jury on Thursday. After the arresting officers failed to show up, the proceedings were postponed until Monday. According to Brown, Bardon posted his bail and was free to walk. She's disappointed the police couldn't find the time to testify in the case.
And this update on the dog:
Bardon's dog is currently being held by Animal Care & Control, Brown said. But neither Cobell nor Brown bear any ill-will against the offending pooch, and hope he receives the care and rehabilitation he deserves.
"To have the dog put down because of this idiot's behavior would be the ultimate wrong," Cobell said.
http://gothamist.com/2013/08/10/the_ice_pick_stabber_of_prospect_pa.php
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Here's to NYC's finest! Making sure we all feel a little bit safer..... wait a second here. :-k
Honestly, I really hate to say this but I think the most humane thing would be to euthanize the dog. He's been brought up to attack people and other dogs. What good could come from having him live in such a vastly populated area? Could they find someone to adopt him? Would that person be able to control him? I don't think he'll ever be anything but a threat to the general public. It's just heartbreaking that the dog might get put down and Barden gets to walk for now.
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Let's dig a little deeper, and talk about the limitations of criminal justice system. Donnell Barden (inmate ID 93A3987) was released in 2010 after serving 18 years in prison for Attempted Murder and Robbery.
http://nysdoccslookup.doccs.ny.gov/GCA00P00/WIQ3/WINQ130
He "maxed out", meaning that while he was in prison he broke so many rules that he was denied Parole each time he could have been eligible. And, as a result, when he was released, he was not assigned a Parole Officer.
Like it or not, he is entitled to the same criminal justice proceedings as anyone else accused of a similar crime.
This means being arraigned, having the opportunity to post bail instead of being held in detention, and getting to decide whether to plead guilty to the charges before him.
As an incentive to have him plead guilty, he may be offered lesser charges. If he takes the offer (or pleads guilty to the present charges) there will be no trial; He will simply be sentenced. He will become yet another former long term prisoner who commits a crime within 4 years of being released, and is then re-incarcerated.
It is quite common: http://www.jjay.cuny.edu/centersinstitutes/pri/pdfs/LongtermersWHATWEKNOW.pdf
Meanwhile, the bail bondsman and whoever came up with the $ will ensure that he returns to court on Monday, August 12.... If not, a warrant will be issued and a very angry team of armed men will hunt him down.
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My bad! I should help Brown gets to walk away from a crime he's not accused of!
The great revolving door of American Justice keeps on spinning. I really believe that Barden is insane and that both he and us would benefit more from mental help. I read once that our jails and prisons are the nation's largest provider of mental healthcare. If anything they give can be considered mental healthcare.
Yet at the same time I feel little sympathy. Once you abuse a dog in my mind you cross the Moral Event Horizon and there is no coming back. He needs to be permanently off out streets because I'm confident that if we let this cycle continue he will kill someone.
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Whether "he should be allowed back on the streets or not" is a fanciful question.
Let's look at the facts: He is presently out on bail. He is 42. Even if we assume that he enters pleads guilty to the present charges, a sentence involving incarceration is not assured. Even if he is sentenced to incarceration, he will be back in a few years.
Barring death while incarcerated (which is quite rare for someone his age), him getting older and decrepit may be the biggest factor in making us safer.
Justice is an ideal that is rarely reached. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice
...and something that all parties will never reach consensus on.
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anyone who knows the system and has good computer skills know what went down with this guy today?
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Tsarina,
I'm on the road at the moment, but if he was taken into custody today, this site will state it:
http://a073-ils-web.nyc.gov/inmatelookup/pages/common/find.jsfIf he doesn't show up there, you can find out his next court date here:
https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcrim_attorney/jcaptchaEnjoy!
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Using WhyNot's reference sources, it appears that Barden's next court date is October 7, 2013.
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If he has a court date listed by the second link, and the first link does not show him as being incarcerated, then I believe it is safe to assume he remains out on bail.
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^Includes some court info^
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As of Oct 9th, his next court date appears to be October 15.
aepete said:
FIDO posted the info below on its Facebook page today:
FIDO has learned that, late last week, "Goldie Mack" was released to the care and custody of Donnell Barden under the stipulations of a New York State Supreme Court order addressing petitions filed by the Brooklyn District Attorney early in September.
As many of our members will recall, Mr. Barden gained some notoriety late this summer where he encouraged his dog to gravely injure other dogs in Prospect Park as well as menace their owners. Mr. Barden was arrested early in August, remains free on bail and will be arraigned on charges of aggravated animal cruelty, menacing, harassment, and criminal possession of a weapon on October 15.In part, the court orders that Mr. Darnell must:
1. keep "Goldie Mack" humanely confined while on his premises in a manner
to prevent the dog's escape into public places,
2. at all times and in any public place, keep the dog restrained on a leash of
suitable tensile strength, no more than 6 feet long, and muzzled. This applies
even in places where off-leash allowances may be in effect.
3. ensure that no minor be permitted to handle Goldie Mack, and should
Mr. Barden place "Goldie Mack" in the custody or care of another person
who then loses control of the dog or otherwise causes a violation of the court's
stipulation, Mr. Barden remains wholly responsible and accountable.
4. license the dog, keep the license current and keep the license tag on the dog.
5. agree to microchipping "Goldie Mack"
In correspondence with me, Deputy District Attorney Dianne Malone wrote:
For a negotiated settlement, I think it’s a good resolution; it avoided
a protracted hearing with the need to call your members to court to
testify; the risk of a dismissal of the entire matter (unlikely but
still a possibility), and gave me more than the basic of what I really
needed – he needs to keep the dog on a leash with a muzzle when in
public, to reduce the opportunity for another unnecessary dog fight and
possible injury to a person.
Obviously, it depends on Mr. Barden’s adherence to the order, but that
is where FIDO members can assist me, by keeping an eye open – as they
would anyway – for an uncontrolled dog and reporting to PEP and the
KCDA, any sighting of Mr. Barden without a leash and/or muzzle. If he
violates, then the dog can be seized, held, and he will be tried for
contempt of court.
FIDO in Prospect Park has a deep and abiding respect for the American justice system and appreciates the constant struggle the court has in striking a balance between public safety and individual liberty. Until Mr. Barden "has his day," the court cannot, in any way direct or indirect, trammel on his civil rights.
That said, I cannot help but express my dismay that, once again, we are advising our members to keep a lookout for Mr. Barden. For those of us who so enjoy the park with our dogs, vigilance remains key -- has that been any different? If anyone sees Mr. Barden -- or anyone for that matter -- creating a dangerous situation with their dog, it is a 911 matter. In Mr. Barden's particular case, muzzle, short leash, and exemplary behavior is the rule of the court, and should any one out there observe differently, it becomes a matter to bring up with Park Enforcement Patrol (Sgt Fisher, 718-437-1350) who have been advised and have a copy of the court order, and the Kings County District Attorney's Office (Deputy District Attorney Dianne Malone 718.250.2235). -
My understanding is that he has two court dates based on two different sets of charges. The court date for the first set of charges is Oct. 15, and the date for the second set of charges is in February. After the initial attack, a second person whose dog had been previously attacked stepped up, leading to the second set of charges. The most serious charge is a Class E felony for Aggravated Cruelty to Animals. The other charges are misdemeanors and violations.
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thanks aepete!
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