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The intersection of Grand and Prospect Avenues — Brooklynian

The intersection of Grand and Prospect Avenues

yuppie_scum
yuppie_scum
edited November -1 in Crown Heights/Prospect Lefferts Gardens

Who is the best person to speak with about installing a stop sign at this location?

EB on Prospect does not have one, just a sign telling drivers to yield to those in the crosswalk (is this in jest).

This is problematic because as a yield sign looks exactly like a stop sign when viewed from the side (as you would traveling N/S on Grand). It's also a perfectly reasonable to assume that this is a stop sign because every other intersection in the area has a two-way stop or a light.

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  • elle
    elle

    You need to call your local Community Board, and I would also call your local City Council rep and State rep.

  • joshb
    joshb

    While you're at it, ask them why cars have been allowed to park on the sidewalk on Grand (between Prospect and Park) for years and years.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    They park on the sidewalk because they have NYPD placards, and work at the "Detective Castle". Sometimes they don't bother to display the placards because they know each others' cars.

    If you are not a MOS, it is a bad idea to park on the sidewalk.

    Here's info about the CB8 Transportation Committee:

    TRAFFIC & TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE

    Chairperson: Dr. Frederick Monderson, Co- Chair, Mr. Robert Witherwax, Esq

    Meeting Day: 4th Tuesday of the Month

    Time: 7:00 p.m.

    Place: CNR-Centerlight Health Care Center

    727 Classon Avenue (bet. Park Place and Prospect Place)

    Responsibilities include the following:

    Keep abreast of all transportation issues within the District

    Monitor quality and quantity of transportation services within the District, including services of City and franchised buses, subways, elevated trains, and commuter travel services

    Develop transportation budget priorities for the Board's consideration

    Review scopes and design for capital projects and report to the Board

    http://www.brooklyncb8.org/meetings.php

  • homeowner
    homeowner

    Since the 60's when NYC Police started moving from NYC to places like Long Island, Westchester, and suburban NJ, the city has tried to balance providing enough parking for the cops in the neighborhood without taking away all parking for residents near the precincts. Parking on sidewalks, and perpendicular parking on precinct blocks were two popular solutions. Many of the precincts that we built mid-century have adjacent parking lots (77th, 79th, 81st) but older facilities like the one on Grand and Park don't have space for cars.

    Cops traditionally never commuted to work on public transportation and I don't get the impression that has really changed much even as crime has gone down and public transit has improved in the city. As someone who has lived in Central Brooklyn forever, I find the grumbling over police parking to be one of the amusing side effects of changes in the neighborhood. That's one of those sacred cows that is never going away.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Given that:

    -the police are supposed to take action when they witness something serious even when off duty, AND/OR

    -the police are likely to encounter some of the people who they saw while on duty,

    I have concluded that it is not reasonable to ask a cop to take public transportation to or from work.

  • joshb
    joshb

    Hey Whynot and Homeowner, I understand that cops park on the sidewalk. Totally understandable.

    But look closely at some of those cars that are further down Grand, near the intersection of Grand and Prospect: They have not been moved in months, if not years. Registrations long expired, flat tires, etc. They are most definitely not cop cars. Always confused me how they got the free pass.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Ah, those cars.

    I've always had the theory they were confiscated by the detectives re: some long ago case, and then never towed to the impound lot,

    OR, that they belong to the auto body shop that occupies the Washington/Grand triangle, and that the cops and he have an understanding.


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  • yuppie_scum
    yuppie_scum

    I don't mind the lack of parking nearly as much as I mind DTs in unmarked cars who seem to think the NYPD benefits package includes doing 45 while driving against traffic.

  • joshb
    joshb

    Yeah, I asked the auto-shop owner about it once while walking my dog. He did not like that I was asking him that question.

  • newguy88
    newguy88

    The auto shop owner has a vested interest in keeping the city as unwalkable and unbikeable as possible.

    The problem with cops parking on sidewalks is it sets the idea in their head that they have the right to park wherever they darn well want. So of course dangerous hilarity ensues.

    I maintain that most cops should take mass transit to work. Hell make them ride a bike to and from work while in the academy. Than maybe they can understand the dangers that really effect the average New Yorker daily.

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