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Locals, oldtimers, etc. — Brooklynian

Locals, oldtimers, etc.

thalia
thalia
edited November -1 in Fort Greene, Clinton Hill, Bed-Stuy
Who are they? Who falls into the category of local or oldtimer. :?

And what if the nabe was discovered err, i meant regentrified more than once..what do you call the original natives? :D

tnese are the things that keep me up at nite :oops: :cry: [/b]

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  • stacey
    stacey
    Thalia - just to make you laugh - this is one of my favorite posts here by BrooklynSwords

    Man, this whole nabe has gentrified all to hell. I remember when it was a just cooled mass of magma and noxious gasses. Those days rocked. Only the hard-core lived here, and the vibe was great.

    Old school? Fuck that man, we were single celled! I had this kick ass bit of rock, but then these yuppie lung-fish started waddling in on their fancy-pants fin-legs and drove up the cost of everything. I tried dividing myself a few times to share the rent, but then one of me mutated and became a total dick to be around. It's all those damned lung-fishes' fault. If they hadn't moved in then those hairy-assed mammals wouldn't have shown up. Now this place is so lame.
  • homeowner
    homeowner

    Subject: Re: Locals, oldtimers, etc.

    thalia wrote: Who are they? Who falls into the category of local or oldtimer. :?

    And what if the nabe was discovered err, i meant [/b]regentrified more than once..what do you call theoriginal natives? :D

    tnese are the things that keep me up at nite :oops: :cry:
    Well, I'm going out on a limb here, but I think the original natives are called Indians, or perhaps Native Americans?
  • thalia
    thalia
    stacey wrote: Thalia - just to make you laugh - this is one of my favorite posts here by BrooklynSwords

    Man, this whole nabe has gentrified all to hell. I remember when it was a just cooled mass of magma and noxious gasses. Those days rocked. Only the hard-core lived here, and the vibe was great.

    Old school? Fuck that man, we were single celled! I had this kick ass bit of rock, but then these yuppie lung-fish started waddling in on their fancy-pants fin-legs and drove up the cost of everything. I tried dividing myself a few times to share the rent, but then one of me mutated and became a total dick to be around. It's all those damned lung-fishes' fault. If they hadn't moved in then those hairy-assed mammals wouldn't have shown up. Now this place is so lame.

    ROTFLMAO :lol:
  • thalia
    thalia

    Subject: Re: Locals, oldtimers, etc.

    homeowner wrote: [quote=thalia]Who are they? Who falls into the category of local or oldtimer. :?

    And what if the nabe was discovered err, i meant [/b]regentrified more than once..what do you call theoriginal natives? :D

    tnese are the things that keep me up at nite :oops: :cry:
    Well, I'm going out on a limb here, but I think the original natives are called Indians, or perhaps Native Americans?

    aight you goin' waaaaay back :D
  • boygabriel
    boygabriel
    stacey wrote: Thalia - just to make you laugh - this is one of my favorite posts here by BrooklynSwords

    Man, this whole nabe has gentrified all to hell. I remember when it was a just cooled mass of magma and noxious gasses. Those days rocked. Only the hard-core lived here, and the vibe was great.

    Old school? Fuck that man, we were single celled! I had this kick ass bit of rock, but then these yuppie lung-fish started waddling in on their fancy-pants fin-legs and drove up the cost of everything. I tried dividing myself a few times to share the rent, but then one of me mutated and became a total dick to be around. It's all those damned lung-fishes' fault. If they hadn't moved in then those hairy-assed mammals wouldn't have shown up. Now this place is so lame.
    simply brilliant.
  • escap
    escap
    I'm not sure of the difference between a local and oldtimer, but I definitely consider myself a local/native/lifer/etc. Was born in FG in '75 and still live here, though I'm happy to say I have lived other places, including other countries. Just staying in the same hood your whole life might give you some kind of street cred in gentrification arguments, but it's actually pretty pathetic. :) I look forward to moving elsewhere at some point in the future (ie when I have some more $), but for now I love this hood. But my has it changed....
  • stacey
    stacey
    escap wrote: IJust staying in the same hood your whole life might give you some kind of street cred in gentrification arguments, but it's actually pretty pathetic. :)
    Hey that's not nice :cry:
  • jaha127
    jaha127
    stacey wrote: [quote=escap]IJust staying in the same hood your whole life might give you some kind of street cred in gentrification arguments, but it's actually pretty pathetic. :)
    Hey that's not nice :cry:

    There is nothing wrong with living in the same place your whole life... I highly recommend going off and getting educated experience the world, as you have escap, and bringing that knowledge back to your community... (e.g teachers, doctors and lawyers)
  • jaha127
    jaha127
    stacey wrote: [quote=escap]IJust staying in the same hood your whole life might give you some kind of street cred in gentrification arguments, but it's actually pretty pathetic. :)
    Hey that's not nice :cry:

    There is nothing wrong with living in the same place your whole life... I highly recommend going off and getting educated experience the world, as you have escap, and bringing that knowledge back to your community... (e.g teachers, doctors and lawyers)
  • escap
    escap
    jaha127 wrote: [quote=stacey][quote=escap]IJust staying in the same hood your whole life might give you some kind of street cred in gentrification arguments, but it's actually pretty pathetic. :)
    Hey that's not nice :cry:

    There is nothing wrong with living in the same place your whole life... I highly recommend going off and getting educated experience the world, as you have escap, and bringing that knowledge back to your community... (e.g teachers, doctors and lawyers)

    :wink: OK, OK, I take it back! I just wanted to draw that line between "local" and "provincial". Like you said, it's good to see the world and not just stay sheltered in the place you feel comfortable. It's good to move and I welcome positive changes to the area (purposely vague...). But I think it's great if, like me, you love where you're from and have put down roots.
  • escap
    escap
    Sweet, now I'm an "anonymous guest". 400th post, but I'm falling hopelessly behind armchair warrior. Plus I still don't have an avatar--maybe I should get on that.
  • isla
    isla
    jaha127 wrote: [quote=stacey][quote=escap]IJust staying in the same hood your whole life might give you some kind of street cred in gentrification arguments, but it's actually pretty pathetic. :)
    Hey that's not nice :cry:

    There is nothing wrong with living in the same place your whole life... I highly recommend going off and getting educated experience the world, as you have escap, and bringing that knowledge back to your community... (e.g teachers, doctors and lawyers)

    This can be done by traveling, learning, going to school, educating yourself in other ways, reading, researching. You do not have to leave this neighborhood, or others, to become wordly and educated and experienced. Simply moving to new places does not ensure you will gain experiences. It helps, but it is not necessary or a guaranteed result. NYC is the best place to be to experience life, cultures, people and many other things.
  • nicolamj
    nicolamj
    I am definitely not a local by any means - just moved to Ft Greene a few months ago, and I've only lived in Brooklyn for 3+ years. (Before that, I was at NYU - eek!)

    However, I try to redeem myself in the eyes of locals and oldtimers by learning a lot about my neighborhood, and Brooklyn itself. A lot of kids move to Brooklyn and they don't try to learn anything about it - all they know is how to take the L to Williamsburg and the rest of Brooklyn (with perhaps an exception for Park Slope) is a mystery to them. I explore different neighborhoods, learn about the history and try to respect it.

    I love Brooklyn as it is and I don't want to change it or turn it into a mini Manhattan. I hope to one day be considered a 'local' by others.
  • escap
    escap
    Nicolamj, welcome to the nabe. I respect everything you said but I would hope that you not wanting to "change" the neighborhood doesn't mean you don't want it to change. Brooklyn has always been changing and shifting, and always will--there's nothing more native to Brooklyn than change, so don't worry about it if the area looks different 10 years from now than it does now. Also, you will inevitably change the area yourself just by moving here and having an impact. As long as that change is a positive change that involves you enjoying the nabe and investing yourself in it, all current residents should welcome it. No need to be on eggshells.

    I for one don't care who moves into my neighborhood, be they Bangali, Dominican, Russian, Korean, Black, White, Yuppie or Hipster, as long as they have a good attitude. Anyone on the other hand who wants to import intolerance, bigotry, exclusiveness, hate or other negativity is definitely not welcome.
  • nicolamj
    nicolamj
    Thanks, escap. I definitely agree with what you said. To me, Brooklyn is about the people (and their history). Granted, that stuff will change over time, but I always want Brooklyn to be a place where neighbors can talk to each other, hang out on the stoop, and make their nabe a better place for themselves and their families.
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