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Select Bus Service and other changes on Nostrand Jan 2013+ - Page 6 — Brooklynian

Select Bus Service and other changes on Nostrand Jan 2013+

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  • The MTA fare enforcement team was at St. Johns and Nostrand today. They are the people with the reflective lettering on their jackets.

    Remember to save your receipt!


  • As discussed above, a good way to lay the foundation for success is to show how bad things were before you fixed them.Ladies and Gentlemen, I am pleased to announce the prior B44 has been named one of the city's slowest lines:http://www.bkreader.com/2013/12/b44-bus-wins-schleppie-award-for-one-of-citys-least-reliable/Guess what line isn't going to be awarded this next year...
  • Yesterday morning I had to meet up with some folks in Bed-Stuy. I walked there, but decided to hop the 44 back as the sidewalks were treacherous. I was at Lafayette Avenue when I saw a bus 2 blocks away. I waited only to have the bus fly past us as it was a Select Bus. Rather than stand out in the snow and rain, I decided to start walking. Walking down Nostrand I noticed most of the people waiting for the bus were either elderly or had small children, and had chosen to wait rather than walk. At Quincy Street, I looked up to see another bus coming. It was another Select. Continued walking. Reached Fulton Street and a third Select Bus passed me by. At Dean/Pacific a local bus finally caught up with me. By this time I had decided to stop at the grocery store on St. Marks and so I let the bus go. I estimated that it took me 20-25 minutes to walk from Lafayette to St Marks and all the selects that passed me by were almost empty, while the one local bus was pretty full. I was surprised that the MTA decided to allow the trains to all run local but continued to have express service on the selects when the streets were pretty icy and impassable.But this is progress, no?
  • Homeowner-You and the people you describe don't seem to be part of the demographic that this service is designed for.However, don't worry, only those riding SBS will be asked whether they like it.
  • The folks you describe will not likely be part of the satisfaction survey....it may poll only those who are entering, riding on, or exiting the bus.You know "customers".
  • I'd love to be a customer, if only a bus would come by to pick me up...
  • They do not seem to perceive the folks who are not "coming and going from the places they are picking up/dropping off" as part of their demographic.The MTA is in the best spot to be.
  • I think we may have exhausted the SBS topic, so I'd like to discuss other ways in which the neighborhood is changing.For example, this probably would not have happened just a few years ago:
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    Is this what happens when you let Kenny Powers design your building's lobby?
    ...and probably won't happen a few years from now.
  • The MTA is only concerned with proving the "success" of their Select Bus Service. The SBS can run relatively quickly, but mostly it runs fairly empty. It's the same way with the SBS along 1st and 2nd Avenues in Manhattan. If you happen to need a LOCAL along these routes, you can wait a long long time. Once, standing in front of NYU medical center on 1st Ave, I waited a half hour for a local. Considering that there is no bench at this stop and that numerous people exiting NYU might be less than agile/strong, this is not all that considerate of the MTA. Still, they flout their wonderfully "improved" numbers ... as long as you want to go the way THEY prefer.Of course, the DOT has cooperated by bumping out sidewalks and painting the bus lanes. (Boy, Sadik-Kahn LOVES painted lanes!).There was no need to bump out the sidewalk; along 34th St in Manhattan, as well as along the sections of 1st and 2nd Avenues, they have the same ticket machines with no bum-out whatsoever. A total waste of money!!
  • Ways in which gentrification doesn't make life better:1) Transforming the lobby of your building from ""green and gross" with "chunks of drywall missing"" to "Psychedelic Freedom Spaceship and/or backcountry strip club"
  • No surprise, SBS has made it suck MORE to travel by car on Nostrand:
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    Merchants and drivers say the traffic shift has caused major problems on Nostrand Avenue.
    Homeowner-The pattern is usually that the tide of young people is pretty quickly priced out, and the walls then reflect the preferences of parents of 10 year olds on track to go to a private college.Give it time.
  • Okay, French Chips (between bergen and Dean) has closed and has be replaced with Chop Chop grub shop. (?) . Great menu. open for 6 or 7 am to 10pm!! Check out the menu. Bagel place between Atlantic and pacific open. They provided the grub for the Friends of Brower Park executive committee group this morn. Deli on Bergen and Nostrand , across from CT Muffin, previously the starlight bar, then a lame deli, then a deli with too much smoking paraphernalia has closed down. Time for something good there.
  • So the Beauty World storefront currently seems to be occupied by an Income Tax Service group. Please, someone, tell me this is temporary while the landlord looks for more interesting tenants? Any updates on any of the other empty stores? Spring would be so exciting with a few new places to join Chop Chop Grub Shop and Nostrand Ave Bagel!
  • 565 Nostrand was also gutted and there's work going on there. Any thoughts?
  • whynot_31
    edited February 2014
    565 Nostrand is on the market, as per this ad that was updated yesterday:

    $2800 a month for 1800 sq ft....cheaper than many apartments in the area.
  • Returning to the SBS roll out...It seems the MTA does listen, to a degree:
    New York City Council Member Jumaane D. Williams (D-Brooklyn), Deputy Leader, was joined by fellow elected officials to greet commuters and alert them that the Metropolitan Transportation Authority ("MTA") will install a new Select Bus Service (SBS) stop at Avenue L and Nostrand Avenue in both directions. This change comes in response to numerous complaints by residents of the Midwood, East Flatbush and Flatbush communities that when the MTA implemented SBS on the B44 Line in late November, it increased commuter times for those who utilized the service at this critical stop
    https://www.facebook.com/jumaane.williamscouncil
  • The Income Tax place in Beauty World is, like a couple of other tax preparation places on Nostrand, a pop-up. They will all disappear around April 31st once tax season is over.
  • laura palmer
    edited February 2014
    Back to the SBS (I suppose we should really have two different threads here) 
    the MTA is cracking heads and taking names. Time to start buying tickets? 

  • homeowner
    edited February 2014
    Not only that, but they have stepped up the towing on Nostrand between Atlantic and EP. I've seen at least one car taken every morning this week! Nothing like DOT increasing those revenue streams for the general fund.
  • Laura, I've made the title of the thread broader

    "Changes on Nostrand Jan 2013+"

    has become

    "Select Bus Service and other changes on Nostrand Jan 2013+"
  • re: "Back to the SBS (I suppose we should really have two different threads here) 
    the MTA is cracking heads and taking names. Time to start buying tickets? "

    I think at the Junction is a prime place to do enforcement. 

    I always keep my ticket. I can see how some people may try to cheat the system and try to ride for free.

    A few times I've seen some people get on and ask about how to pay their fare. Once the bus driver explains that no fares are accepted on the bus, they give up and get off. At least they're honest about it. If they were to just walk on and didn't ask any questions, they might have gotten away with a free ride (unless cops were to do a spot check). :)

    I love the B44 SBS. That route makes coming back from the Target at the Junction faster than using the B41 or the 2 train. I dream of being able to have B41 SBS, but I realize that's just a pipe dream due to logistics.
  • Coming soon to our stretch of Nostrand,  "Bus time signs" that tell you how far the next bus is away, and whether it will be a SBS or a local

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  • I got all excited...until I found out that 
    1. this particular sign is a prototype. 
    2. There is no set timetable as to when more will be rolled out.
    This article did make an interesting side note:
    "(Sidenote: The parking situation on this stretch of Nostrand and Rogers is literally a free-for-all. No meters, double-parking everywhere, drivers bypassing the stopped vehicles by violating the bus lane. To make SBS work as well as it should here, there needs to be a price on the curb.)"
  • Yes, they added the "update" after I posted.    

    Yes, in order for the folks at MTA to be able to say this is faster, they have to get cooperation from DOT and NYPD.

    Think it will happen?     It has on Fordham road...
  • Yesterday I saw the new bus shelters being installed on Nostrand and St. John's. Looking forward to the new trees, which I suppose will be planted in the springtime.
  • It looks as if DOT and DEP will finish all the sewer work they are doing near Nostrand and Fulton soon, which will then allow MTA to finally conquer that part of the route.
  • Has the DOT finally rebuilt and repaved all of Nostrand? That's a large part of what's been screwing up traffic on that street for years.
  • whynot_31
    edited April 2014
    They are still working.



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