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Jewish Hospital rant, etc.

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  • dan.h wrote: Anyone know whats being developed on Franklin btwn Prospect and st marks? Its in the middle of the block, glass storefront looking thing... Possibly a bar?
    yeah we've definitely noticed that place, looks like its being nicely setup. A while back there was a rumor that Indigo Blue may be coming to Franklin.

    There are also a couple of other spots on Franklin that seem to be in the process of turning into bars and/or restaurants, so let's keep our fingers crossed. One place has a "Coming Soon - Indian Restaurant" banner out. So if we're lucky Franklin may turn into a happening spot all its own.
  • indigo blue is definitely not reopening.
  • Any details on why Indigo is not going to reopen?
  • Subject: Re: dividing lines...?

    Anonymous wrote: Don't kid yourselves, most people in those buildings are paying an average of $1,600 or more a month.
    I looked at a couple of places in that building. Yuck. Looked like a Yuppie Ghetto.
  • Subject: Re: dividing lines...?

    filmlover44 wrote:
    I looked at a couple of places in that building. Yuck.
    on the other hand, i can walk to a clean, 24-hour laundromat and a very good hardware store....

    http://64.21.158.241/~brooklyn/forums/viewtopic.php?t=34218&sid=b2ccebe2da5a98cd3888915d7c6a2757

    8) :twisted:
  • Subject: Re: dividing lines...?

    sweet tea wrote: [quote=filmlover44]
    I looked at a couple of places in that building. Yuck.
    on the other hand, i can walk to a clean, 24-hour laundromat and a very good hardware store....

    http://64.21.158.241/~brooklyn/forums/viewtopic.php?t=34218&sid=b2ccebe2da5a98cd3888915d7c6a2757

    8) :twisted:

    That's a plus! When I do move to CH, it will be to a building that is NOT the Jewish hospital and I will truly enjoy a good clean laundromat, oh - how I will enjoy it! Heck, I may even have a washing machine in my apartment or building. Sigh.
  • Anyone who lives in the hospital, know anything that is up with ALMA not having a certificate of occupancy? I keep hearing all sorts of things about them being shady with it but (of course) they won't give me a straight answer...or really any answer at all.
  • Anonymous wrote: Anyone who lives in the hospital, know anything that is up with ALMA not having a certificate of occupancy? I keep hearing all sorts of things about them being shady with it but (of course) they won't give me a straight answer...or really any answer at all.
    i checked online and the listing for the hospital said there is no certificate.

    you can look up addresses here: http://www.nyc.gov/html/dob/html/certificates/co_document.shtml
  • Subject: Did anyone see the prospect security vehicle

    Hey I was coming off the shuttle train the other night like 230 in the morning and I saw a vehicle with the stenciling "Prospect Security, that's so cool. It's about time something like that was put together.
  • what is the deal with the jewish hospital? it seems liek folks say it is a bad deal...id love to see, photos, floorplans, and hear rent estimates
  • i like it. the landlords are a bit shady, though.
  • i live across the street in a building with the same landlords...but when we looked at a two-bedroom in the main jewish hospital building it was $2100.

    really nice with a huge balcony, but still, $2100 is a lotttt for crown heights.

    we like our (still somewhat overpriced) smaller place across the street.

    and yeah, like sweet tea said, shady landlords, though we haven't had to deal with them at all since moving in. i wouldn't call it a bad deal, since they are nice, brand new apartments near the train, buses, and stores, but it's definitely not a steal.
  • http://www.almarealty.com/Page.htm

    is the listing of their available properties...it doesn't seem like there are any openings in the jewish hospital at the moment, unless they are combining the listings with 467-475 st. marks. they have definitely severely raised prices in my building though (like $2000 more a month), which is strange since i only moved in 2 months ago.

    yeah, they're shady.
  • Thanks for the info...

    I always see a sign outside saying "APARTMENTS AVAILABLE NOW!" when i head over there to take the bus (I live on Washington....) and have always been curious about the interiors and pricing.

    What is so shady about the landlord?
  • you kinda just get the feeling they're trying to con you whenever they speak...plus advertising it as being in prospect heights and having a laundry room...and saying for several years that they are opening a grocery store and coffee shop on the property.

    i haven't had any actual issues with them yet, but i know the original inhabitants of the jewish had a lot of issues that are stated earlier in the thread.
  • yeah, i don't have problems with them anymore -- well, if you don't count the certificate of occupancy thing -- but it was rough sledding when we first got here. (when our bldg first opened)

    incidentally, i noticed on the DOB site (i think...might have been property shark) that they ARE seeking permission for a grocery store. coulda knocked me over with a feather. (breath not held.)
  • when was thejewish hospital built
    and more importantly, converted into residential space
  • 1. 1927 (ish. depends on which building you mean)
    2. 2005 (ish. see above)
  • anyone know the history of the Jewish hospital?
  • Subject: New Bar

    New bar on Vanderbilt, a few blocks down from Soda, towards Atlantic ave. I believe its called "Noona". Asian themed, cheap food, nice atmosphere.
  • the rant is thoughtless

    People arent scared per say; people are apprehensive about being frontiersmen into a new neighborhood.
  • It's kind of amazing that 3 months later there's still no listing for 555 Prospect on their site. There have been a lot of people moving out recently.

    I'm not really surprised though, my $1450 1BR has become a $1650 1BR in the 2 years i've been here. I mean, hell, their building on St. Marks has 2BRs listed for $1550 and it's right across the street.
  • random question, since this topic has been revived...

    what is the "radiation therapy" part of the jewish (on st. marks) being used for? it's obviously not apartments because half the windows are boarded up/broken, but it seems to be in use for something.

    also, any updates on a grocery store/coffee shop/laundry room??? juuuuuuuuuust kidding.
  • Well, i just spoke with both the DHCR and the NYC Department of Buildings. The building officially has no Certificate of Occupancy. One was applied for in 2004, but the work to obtain one was never completed. Apparently we're not rent stabalized either, although the rent increases are being handled as if we were.

    Edit: I'm still investigating the rights of tenents in buildings with no CoO.
  • the newer building (on st. marks), official address 880 bergen street, has a recent application for a certificate of occupancy from 5/2007 according to the dob. don't know if they will actually follow through with that though.

    i don't know how to tell if it is actually rent stabilized, but i can't see why they'd have us sign all the rent stabilization forms that limit their ability to increase rent and kick us out if it weren't.
  • I'm guessing here but I think the rent stabilized status is tied to tax abatements that they are getting, most likely a J-51 for the hospital and 421-a for St. Marks.

    These tax abatements often take some time to get processed after the building is complete and thus the rent stabilized status may not be on record until the abatement goes through. The C of O issue may delay everything further.

    Since they are kind of in limbo right now I think they need to offer leases that conform to the RS guidelines otherwise they may have problems down the line once the tax abatement goes through.
  • um, about that CofO.... i've known about this for a while -- at least one of our neighbors is withholding rent. but does anyone know what happens if the city wises up? because i REALLY don't want to have to move.
  • Wow, that seems like a hell of a wacky loophole.

    The main reason i was interested was that i don't feel that my apt. is worth the rent increase and i wanted to know what my rights were to challenge it before i renewed. From what i can find it seems that without a CoO they can't even pressure to collect nor will they have an easy time evicting.

    I'm not looking for a free ride, but all this combined on top of a lot of broken promises and questionable actions have left me wondering what kind of options i really have available to me.
  • Hi, this is my first post here - I've been reading for about a month now since I've moved into the area. Nice to meet ya'll.

    Anyway - I've just recently gotten into the same problem with my old apartment. The last few years of rent stabilization increases have been larger then the normal cost of living, or as I believe - the market for the apartment.

    The normal procedure is to naturally talk to the landlord because the rent stabilizations are max increases and the landlord isn't tied to the increase. Naturally my landlord thought the market was higher then what I was paying and I thought it was lower. So I put in to leave my apartment (which brought me to fabulous Crown Heights). Well...I was right and the brokers listed at almost $100 less then what I would be paying.

    I never brought proof to my landlords attention, like similar apartment listings in the neighborhood, etc - but I was looking for an excuse to leave anyway. This might be something you can do.

    The complaints you can make are to the rent stabilization board when they discuss their yearly increases or to your landlord - otherwise your landlord is just going by the letter of their rights regardless of market. They'll just find out they'll have an empty apartment on their hands for a while if they don't pay attention.
  • If the certificate of occupancy does not permit residential use, the owner may not be able to sue you for rent although the owner may seek to remove you from the space. For more information on tenant rights, visit the "Tenant's Rights Guide" on our web site here. In addition, you may want to call one of the New York City Tenant organizations such as Tenants and Neighbors (212) 608-4320 or Met Council (212) 979-6238 for advice.
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