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Who here is from NYC and who here is a transplant? — Brooklynian

Who here is from NYC and who here is a transplant?

devincf
edited November -1 in Prospect Heights
I am curious as to how this affects perceptions. I get the impression that people who want to make a big deal out of police parking or the handling of a mugging by the cops may come from somewhere where things work.
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  • hahahaha



    transplant. but devin knows that.
  • Brooklyn born and bred. :twisted:
  • likewise
  • i grew up here. but wasnt born here. been here since 1985. blah always lived in bad areas of nyc. used to get mug and beaten alot.
  • Brooklyn born baby - how u doin? 8)
  • Born and raised,

    the attitude that fire and popo are exempt from law since 9/11 is irritating.
  • born here, moved against my will as an infant, returned at 19
  • 1975-1985 Milwaukee, WI
    1985-1993 Miami Beach, FL
    1993-1997 Wellesley, MA
    1997-2001 Houston, TX
    2001-2004 New York, NY
    2004-present Brooklyn, NY

    not sure if that means anything in terms of my crankiness levels about cops and their buddies getting special privileges, but whatever.
  • Captain M wrote: Born and raised,

    the attitude that fire and popo are exempt from law since 9/11 is irritating.
    I certainly don't think they're exempt from anything. I just think they've never been worth much.
  • alafairnadia wrote: 1975-1985 Milwaukee, WI
    1985-1993 Miami Beach, FL
    1993-1997 Wellesley, MA
    1997-2001 Houston, TX
    2001-2004 New York, NY
    2004-present Brooklyn, NY

    not sure if that means anything in terms of my crankiness levels about cops and their buddies getting special privileges, but whatever.

    LOL. Where in Houston? Anything Montrose/Heightsy and I might know you.
  • Grew up in Arkansas, lived in Kansas for 10 years, and then moved here in the summer of 2000. I was in Manhattan for just under a year and have been in Brooklyn ever since.

    And if you think New York cops are bad, try Arkansas cops.
  • I "married into" the borough. :wink:
  • Lived in rural PA, next to Amish country. Went to liberal arts college in upstate NY and moved to Brooklyn in '91. Been in PH since '92.
  • Born and raised in Manhattan - BK for 9 years. Always been frustrated with the NYPD - but just because I've never known any different doesn't mean I can't dream... Also, I might add, never been mugged (knock on wood), and I think native New Yorkers are the best, nicest neighbors in the world. It's the transplants (or transients) who think they're being New Yorkers by being rude and inconsiderate who ruin it. I'm generalizing - there are always exceptions - but that's just been my experience...
  • EasternPkwyQ wrote: It's the transplants (or transients) who think they're being New Yorkers by being rude and inconsiderate who ruin it. I'm generalizing...
    uh, yeah, just a little... is this an example of the exemplary NY niceness?
  • transplant, baby. boston born and raised, 83-2004; Brooklyn, Aug. 2005-present.
  • nybt wrote: [quote=EasternPkwyQ]It's the transplants (or transients) who think they're being New Yorkers by being rude and inconsiderate who ruin it. I'm generalizing...
    uh, yeah, just a little... is this an example of the exemplary NY niceness?

    Uh yeah. Are you a transplant who think it makes you more of a New Yorker if you are rude and inconsiderate? Then I am talking about you. If you're just a transplant, then I suggest you read my entire statement.
  • From St. Charles, Missour-ah.

    2000-present, NYC (Brooklyn Heights, Roosevelt Island, Astoria, Bay Ridge, Inwood, Prospect Heights--in that order)
  • EasternPkwyQ wrote: [quote=nybt][quote=EasternPkwyQ]It's the transplants (or transients) who think they're being New Yorkers by being rude and inconsiderate who ruin it. I'm generalizing...
    uh, yeah, just a little... is this an example of the exemplary NY niceness?

    Uh yeah. Are you a transplant who think it makes you more of a New Yorker if you are rude and inconsiderate? Then I am talking about you. If you're just a transplant, then I suggest you read my entire statement.

    So this...
    there are always exceptions - but that's just been my experience...
    is supposed to make your statement something other than shallow-minded?

    First, anyone that thinks that people purposefully act rude simply to drum up some kind of NYC cred is a buffoon. Second, do you make it a habit to pause whenever someone is rude to you so that you can find out where they're from? Third, after ascertaining their place of origin, do you delve into their psyche to determine their reason(s) for being rude? I find that most people are rude because they're a) assholes or b) temporary assholes due to extenuating circumstances (sometimes you just have a bad day).

    To answer your question, no. I am a transplant, but very rarely have I been accused of being rude, I think that many people that frequent this board can vouch for me on that. On the rare occasion that I have been rude, it was in no way done to validate my New York-ness.
  • I think transplants are a problem in that most of them don't come to New York to stay. They rush into "cool" areas, jack the rents up and then blow out back to the suburbs after doing their three to five obligatory years in NYC. Obviously that's not every transplant, but my experience is that most who come to NY don't come to spend their lives.
  • But don't you think that many of them intend to, and find that in the long run they can't afford it?
  • devincf wrote: I think transplants are a problem in that most of them don't come to New York to stay. They rush into "cool" areas, jack the rents up and then blow out back to the suburbs after doing their three to five obligatory years in NYC. Obviously that's not every transplant, but my experience is that most who come to NY don't come to spend their lives.
    there are some wild generalizations going on here. I mean, if you look at my list of places I've lived, I could be considered pretty transient. but for now, at least, Brooklyn, New York City, and, specifically, Prospect Heights is my home. because I have no real home town, I always find it pretty insulting when "natives" make generalizations about people who make wherever they are home. I realize, of course, there is resentment re: rent, brooklyn industries street cred, etc, but honestly, why pick that fight?
  • muteflute wrote: transplant, baby. boston born and raised, 83-2004; Brooklyn, Aug. 2005-present.
    where in Boston?
    I'm a masshole myself. :wink:
  • nybt wrote:
    So this...
    there are always exceptions - but that's just been my experience...
    is supposed to make your statement something other than shallow-minded?

    First, anyone that thinks that people purposefully act rude simply to drum up some kind of NYC cred is a buffoon. Second, do you make it a habit to pause whenever someone is rude to you so that you can find out where they're from? Third, after ascertaining their place of origin, do you delve into their psyche to determine their reason(s) for being rude? I find that most people are rude because they're a) assholes or b) temporary assholes due to extenuating circumstances (sometimes you just have a bad day).

    To answer your question, no. I am a transplant, but very rarely have I been accused of being rude, I think that many people that frequent this board can vouch for me on that. On the rare occasion that I have been rude, it was in no way done to validate my New York-ness.
    Well, then, I'm not talking about you, and I just can't figure out a) why you're being so defensive and b) why you you would call my observation shallow when you have no idea how I arrived at it. I'm actually a very thoughtful and considerate person and have come to this conclusion after living in and experiencing New York for 32 years, and I thought I would share my observation (which, by the way, is generally based on people I know/have encountered general personality and not one isolated encounter or incident). I don't think anyone who actually knows me would consider me or my observations shallow. I can't speak for the people who frequent this board and what they might think of me.

    By the way, I have on many occasions witnessed people subconciously take on affectations based on where they are and who they're around, haven't you? Or do you think that everything we do is a conscious, logical decision?

    Further, after 32 years in NY, I can definitely tell who's from here originally and who's not. I'll even put money on it.

    I think Devincf is right on - it has to do with whether people are actually invested in where they live or not. I grew up in the Village which is now full of transients who don't care about their neighbors or neighborhoods because they're not making homes there, they're just living there, so they don't care if they're nice to their neighbors or if they shop at local businesses instead of national chains. I see elements of that starting to happen in Brooklyn and it's unsettling.
  • Renters don't jack up their own rent, the landlords jack up rents. That being said...

    If rents are increasing and the area is hot, the new businesses that follow usually account for an increase in the quality of the neighborhood amenities. How is that bad? It's a free market, man. If someone else is willing to pay more for the area and the experience, well, life just isn't fair and it's something that we all have to put up with, right?
  • jayce wrote: where in Boston?
    I'm a masshole myself. :wink:
    As am I, where are you from Jayce? I'm from Carlisle, there is a chance that means nothing to you.
  • COD. city of Detroit. but i first moved to NYC in 1979 and to brooklyn first in 1983. detroit was not a city where "things worked."
  • alafairnadia wrote:
    there are some wild generalizations going on here. I mean, if you look at my list of places I've lived, I could be considered pretty transient. but for now, at least, Brooklyn, New York City, and, specifically, Prospect Heights is my home. because I have no real home town, I always find it pretty insulting when "natives" make generalizations about people who make wherever they are home. I realize, of course, there is resentment re: rent, brooklyn industries street cred, etc, but honestly, why pick that fight?
    I know that there are some kids, mainly in Manhattan colleges, who do come here for college, but would never consider "raising a family" in NYC. Like its sooo much more dangerous :roll:
    I've moved around a lot too, but just because I was living with roommates that sucked to varying degrees. However, I always intended on staying here. Hell, I'm marrying a quintessential Caribbean born, Brooklyn raised man.

    Note: But I am not marrying him just for his Brooklyn panache. haha.
  • If someone throws out a broadly sweeping (negative) statement (and broadly sweeping statements are almost never accurate), I have no problem saying, 'hey, that's pretty fucked up.' If I happen to be included in the demographic of that broadly sweeping (negative) statement, then I have no problem saying a little more than, 'hey, that's pretty fucked up.'
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