anti-war vote tuesday?

I met Tasini twice at concerts in PP - he's quite a character - and I liked his quirkiness a lot.

I can't wait to vote against Hilary or Hillary.

raulism wrote: It will be very gratifying to vote against Hillary for her pro-war record.

There are other anti-war candidates besides Tasini. Chris Owens is very strong in standing up against the Bush insanity. Yassky, as usual, wants it both ways: He is critical of Bush on Iraq, but he seems to be in favor of bombing Iran right now.

(Oh, and one of the only candidates that Tasini has donated to is Bill Batson.)

I have to admit that I am not too sure of her stand on the war but if she, at this time is still in favor of the war, that is the only thing that I would disagree with Hillary on. I still think that she is the best candidate

Drano wrote: [quote=raulism]Yassky, as usual, wants it both ways: He is critical of Bush on Iraq, but he seems to be in favor of bombing Iran right now.

Well, to be fair, you could make an argument that those are two different things.

Yeah, but this thread is geared toward people who are looking for anti-war candidates. These are complicated issues, but my impression of Yassky is that he talks a lot more anti-war than he is. He worked for Chuck Schumer, who voted against the first Gulf war when he was a congressional representative to voting for the second Gulf was as a senator. Yassky also helped expand the powers of FISA and to bring back the death penalty in federal cases.

Of course, some people like these things. But if you are looking for an anti-war candidate, I believe Chris Owens is a better choice.

I disagreed with Hillary's vote to authorize the use of military force, but I can also understand how the dems felt like they were in a tough spot. After all, in the first Gulf War a lot of dems lost their seats b/c they predicted catastrophe only to have the war go about as smoothly as any war could possibly go, and they also lost the moral argument as Kuwaitis were genuinely ecstatic to have been freed from Hussein's rule. The dems feared a repeat and, predictably, turned out to have guessed wrong both times.

But anyway, there are also a million other things that a Senator has to do and deciding your vote based on what a candidate says he would have done years ago seems unwise. At this point it's not exactly going out on a limb to be opposed to the Iraq debacle--what else does Tasini have to offer?

escap wrote: I disagreed with Hillary's vote to authorize the use of military force, but I can also understand how the dems felt like they were in a tough spot. After all, in the first Gulf War a lot of dems lost their seats b/c they predicted catastrophe only to have the war go about as smoothly as any war could possibly go, and they also lost the moral argument as Kuwaitis were genuinely ecstatic to have been freed from Hussein's rule. The dems feared a repeat and, predictably, turned out to have guessed wrong both times.

But anyway, there are also a million other things that a Senator has to do and deciding your vote based on what a candidate says he would have done years ago seems unwise. At this point it's not exactly going out on a limb to be opposed to the Iraq debacle--what else does Tasini have to offer?

That's fine for you. I never believed Bush, and I thought this whole Iraq adventure was a disaster from the start. I think Bush is responsible for one of the biggest setbacks to our national security in a century.

I really don't care if it was politically expedient for the Democrats or Republicans. We needed representatives who would do their duty and stand up for their country. I think Hillary was wrong in going along with the false information that Bush was selling. For me, that's a good reason to vote against her.

The most important job of any government is to protect its citizens. Bush has failed that duty, and Hillary had the lack of vision to stand up for what's right. The decision has already been made, but when we needed courage, she failed. And I don't trust that she will do the right thing the next time we need some courage.