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On the subject of doctors - good GP? — Brooklynian

On the subject of doctors - good GP?

caseopele
edited November -1 in Park Slope
I need a new GP since I refuse to go to the one I've been seeing anymore. I'd been having a number of problems and did research of my own to come up with a possible diagnosis. I brought all the info with me to my last visit and she refused to even look at it or even entertain the notion that I might be right. Well, after seeing a retinologist it turned out that I was right. I needed to get a copy of my blood tests from her office because the neuro-opthalmologist couldn't start treating me without them and they gave me a hard time about it. She also doesn't listen very well, so I'm not going back to her.

Anyone have a good GP in the neighborhood that possibly takes Oxford? I'd really appreciate any advice, thanks!
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  • You read my mind! I also need a local Doc right now. Caseopele, can you tell us who this awful Doctor is (or PM me). I've been looking and I don't want to get stuff with your old one!
  • Dr. Michael Raffinan 718-797-5100.

    He's on Atlantic and Clinton.

    It's hard to get an appointment, but he takes walk-ins 5 days a week and is part of LICH, so can refer you to a specialist if needed.

    I have NEVER had a doctor spend more time talking with me to understand my issues and discuss options. Every single time. Plus, he returns phone calls.

    I'm almost sad to recommend him as I don't want his office to get busier!
  • I've had too many problems with LICH, starting 20 years ago with a botched appendectomy and much more so I tend to stay away from them. Thanks for the recommendation though Flexichick!

    The GP I was seeing was Gopa on 8th Ave and President. When I first started going there she had another doctor working with her named Bardman but she moved out of state. Then she had Dr. Sue who was a million kinds of awesome but she left to practice in Queens I think.

    I've just had way too many bad experiences with doctors to deal with one that refuses to listen to what I say. Especially when I'm right! If I hadn't gone to the retinologist I wouldn't have been diagnosed and could have gone blind. All because Gopa didn't want to listen to me.
  • I love my doc.. Burton Fletcher, M.D. 348 13th Street
    Suite 201,Brooklyn, NY 11215 (718) 622-7800

    (located between 6th & 7th Avenue). I have always found him to be a good listener and very thorough - with a great sense of humour too! (takes Oxford).
  • I love my doc.. Burton Fletcher, M.D. 348 13th Street
    Suite 201,Brooklyn, NY 11215 (718) 622-7800

    (located between 6th & 7th Avenue). I have always found him to be a good listener and very thorough - with a great sense of humour too! (takes Oxford).
  • I have to agree about Dr. Fletcher. My husband and I have been going to him for years. It's a very different experience going to him than other doctors. Although he's not old, he has more of an old fashioned approach than other doctors. (Calling with test results, instead of me having to track him down, etc.) Also, he's accomodating when you need a last minute appointment (when you wake up with a horrible cold) without a long wait.
  • this is not going to be a popular opinion, but i'm throwing it out there anyway.

    our local hospitals are sub-par. my experiences at methodist have been atrocious and farcical. in fact, you'd only get me back into methodist if i were unconscious and bleeding copiously from the head. LICH is good, but not great. maimonedes is a really good, solid place, but it's in bay ridge.

    if i choose a local doctor, he/she has to have priveleges (sp?) at a good hospital (read: manhattan, unfortunately. downtown, so it's easy to get hthere from here) or i'll find someone else. and, sadly, many of the local doctors don't. i mean, it wish i could have a local, fabulous doctor you can see whom i trusted and relied on and get good care from. but finding one is half the battle: if i get sick and i have to go to the hospital, i need to know my doctor will be someplace medically exceptional.

    i don't know that these aren't things we think about when we choose MDs. i do, because my dad was a cardiologist, and the doctors at methodist have been quite snappish when i've asked where they went to med school and trained (my legal right, btw. i don't want to to see a doctor who went to med school in the carribean because he/she couldn't get into one in the states...). and when i moved here i was thrilled to have what i thought would be a good hospital (aforementioned sucky methodist) nearby because they are affiliated with columbia, but the place is a trainwreck. After spending a week a year ago in the hospital (not in brooklyn) for an infection, i can tell you that without the exceptional doctor and nursing care (and administrative, too, an area where methodist is severely lacking to the point of really botched care) i might not be here right now typing this.

    just food for thought. obviously not something to worry about with, say, a dermatologist or dentist or psychiatrist.
  • wow, BP. usually i wouldn't disagree with you, but i feel compelled to throw out a slightly differing opinion about Methodist (but with specific circumstances). last year i went there for a cardiac emergency. this was right around the time they launched their new cardiac program. i have to say that the care and attention i received at Methodist was top-notch. i was wholly impressed with everyone starting with the administrator who took care of all my paperwork for me, to the nurses, the PA, the cardiac techs, and finally the doctors. i had some reservations about going there at first, but i had no concerns once i got in. truthfully, i was surprised at just how smoothly the entire process was. i am bearing in mind the fact that i was in the cardiac unit, not the regular emergency room so that may have been the difference. however, i also had a lumpectomy there a few years ago and although my impression was that the place is a bit run-down, the docs were quite good and the after-care was just fine.

    i also want to say that i agree wholeheartedly with you that as patients we have the right to ask about our doctors' qualifications. my motto is: Arm Yourself With Knowledge.

    to everyone in general, i want to say that if you are a person with a particular ailment or condition, it would well worth your time and effort (and believe me, it's not always easy) to find the best doctor/hospital suited for your particular problem. it may mean traveling, but a specialist who's done your particular surgery/treated your particular ailment is always better in the long-run than the friendliest doc in the whole wide world who's never seen your problem other than having read about it in the textbooks.

    caseopele, a question: isn't dr. gopa a cardiologist and not a GP?
  • shishkab, i'll try not to be obnoxious and say that you're lucky you came out alive... which with an emergency you'd be lucky to come from anywhere.

    i'm glad to hear this story, because it's so opposite of every experience i've ever had or witnessed there, and all the experiences i've heard from others who've been there. i won't get into the list of them, because it's a long list, but the fact that i had to pull a shirley maclaine on the maternity ward for my friend who'd just had a c-section had to wait over an hour for drugs and was writhing and crying in pain on her bed. it was horrifying.

    regardless, i'm glad someone went in and had a good experience. and *wherever* you go, or anyone goes, keep in mind that if at all possible you should have someone with you to act as your advocate. health care in this country has gotten so bad that the thought of being in the hospital without one frightens me.
  • Shishkab, she is a cardiologist but also specializes in internal medicine. My problem with her is a problem I've had with some other doctors. Here's an example. I've been on different medications for about 10 years and have done alot of research into their side effects. One typical side effect is hypertriglyceridemia and every blood test I've had since has shown elevated triglycerides. She refuses to believe that it's the medication causing this and is positive that it's what I'm eating. I told her that I don't eat junk food, I don't even really like food very much. I basically eat to live and told her my diet. She absolutely did not listen to me. Even though I've had the same side effects (including increased liver enzymes) the whole time I've been on the medication, she still refused to believe it was the medication. In her mind, it must be something I'm doing.

    Granted, my circumstances are somewhat special. And I'm not the kind of patient who puts all my trust in the doctor. I know my body and do alot of research of my own. I don't think I know more than they do, obviously they are the doctor and I'm not. But I want to be part of my health care and I want a doctor who will listen to what I say. Even if they say they think I'm wrong, at least be willing to admit I may know a little more than they think.

    Sorry for the long reply. I've seen too many doctors lately and it's making me a little nuts. :)
  • I recommend Dr. Fletcher too. He definitely listens to what you say, and if you ask questions about treatments or even how things work in the industry (e.g. with insurance or how he finds out about new research) he takes the time to explain.

    The GP is a dying breed, incidentally. My cousin was thinking of going to med school, and said her teachers are steering premed students away from internal medicine because the malpractice insurance is so high. I asked Dr. Fletcher about this and he said it's true - in fact, there's a shortage of GPs in the US, and most new ones here are immigrants. Eventually the GP just won't exist anymore.

    Scary, no? Who will we go to when we don't know what's wrong?
  • sprite wrote: Eventually the GP just won't exist anymore.
    Scary, no? Who will we go to when we don't know what's wrong?
    nurse practitioners. in my opinion, they are the future of family/general medicine.
  • My cousin is thinking of going that route, because NPs don't need malpractice insurance. But doesn't a nurse practitioner have to work under the supervision of an MD? I don't understand how that solves the doctor's insurance problem...
  • BP, i agree with you one zillion percent about an advocate. to all readers here: i think that anytime you've got an important dr.'s appt. you should have someone with you. when we are afraid of receiving bad news, most of us somehow manage to shut off the "listening" part of our brains and we only hear what we want to hear and miss the rest of the info. plus, another purpose of having a third party there is so they can prompt you to ask the questions/mention the symptoms/etc. you may forget when sitting face-to-face with the doc. if you don't have a 3rd party who can come with you, at the very least you should sit down before your appt. and write down questions you'd like answered and bring the paper with you! something that sounds so obvious has been an absolute godsend sometimes.

    and to your point specifically about Methodist, BP, i too have heard some rough stories. which is actually why i felt compelled to mention that it was the cardiac unit and a relatively new endeavor on their part. if i'm not mistaken, they've teamed up with Weill Cornell and now share some staff, and more specifically, many of WC's protocols. due to my particular cardiac issues, i've had surgery at Weill Cornell and was blessed to have had one of the best specialists in the country for my particular cardiac condition working on me. i've got nuthin' but good stuff to say about the heart docs at WC!

    hospitals are scary places. i hate them. i know too much about what happens behind the scenes, and i know too much about microbiology to want to spend any length of time in one. i always beg & plead to recover from home. i am a good patient, and do exactly what i'm told, but unless i am hooked up to a monitor or an IV i can't get out of a hospital fast enough. (shivers)
  • caseopele, i was glad for your long reply -- don't apologize :) !!

    yeah, finding a doctor who is compatible with you is not an easy prospect these days. and lord, you are talking to the right person about that -- now i'm gonna tell you a little bit of my story. in my particular situation i spent 15 years trying convince a doctor, any doctor, that something was wrong with my heart. since i was quite young at the time (this was back in the 80's), i was told by more than one doc that "girls simply don't get heart troubles". one went so far as to give me a referral to a psychologist, since as he put it, "i can find nothing organically wrong with you, so it's all in your head." WTF?!?!? well, jump forward 2 decades and now modern medicine admits that women's cardiac healthcare has been WOEFULLY inadequate. sure enough, for all those years i had been misdiagnosed time and time again. i was finally diagnosed 7 years ago with the exact condition i thought i had, and i was so happy i cried. my new cardiologist, a woman :wink: , told me not to be scared and that my condition was relatively mild in the grand scheme of things. i explained to her that i wasn't sad, i was relieved; i was finally vindicated and always knew that jerk who told me it was all in my head was wrong but i just couldn't prove it. she hugged me and told me this was why she went into cardiology, and said she was sorry for the shame i carried all those years, and promised that this was a new day for women's health. (sound the triumphant women's healthcare trumpets -- toot toot! :-' :-' )

    so i'm telling you my story (and yes, all of it is true. except the trumpets. i just added those for effect :wink: ) for no other reason than this: keep researching your condition and your medications. if you can, stay on top of the latest research thru medical journals, et al. if you are convinced that the meds are causing this problem, you are most likely correct. now a lot of doctors would jump on me for saying that, but no one knows your body like you do. if new therapies come out, consider trying them. if it's not being adopted here in NYC, then travel outside of it and go somewhere else. in my case, the cutting edge stuff was coming out of cleveland, OH and framingham, MA. i was in touch with folks at both places and kept my proverbial finger on both pulses. as i mentioned in a previous post: Arm Yourself With Knowledge.

    stay strong, sweetie!
  • Eventually the GP just won't exist anymore.
    Scary, no? Who will we go to when we don't know what's wrong?
    Ha... the entire structure of medicine and how medical services are rendered will never be the same..

    Doctors and hospitals as we know them will disappear. Modern medicine will cure most diseases for which we currently seek medical services. At the same time they will create entirely new afflictions for which there is there is no current structure for treatment.

    A majority of the medical practices in this country are unheard of in the East. Look at us and them over the last 50 years... we are fat, slow uneducated, and losing... they are NBA stars, their rock stars are scientists and if it wasn't for some outside circumstances involving some financial anomolies of the mid 80's to mid 90s they would own this country.

    The problems with medicine in this country are some of the scariest and best kept secrets around...

    Burton Fletcher is a great doctor.... he keeps it real in a way I respect...
  • Just lurking when I saw this thread...

    I'd like to add my vote for Dr. Fletcher, as well. I've been seeing him for several years now and would strongly recommend him. He's a vanishing breed: accessible, patient, and thorough - in a phrase, old school. I'm glad to see that others have appreciated his service as well.
  • It's beginning to look like we have a Burton Fletcher fan club here...!
  • FurryGreyBOy wrote: It's beginning to look like we have a Burton Fletcher fan club here...!
    You know it. I keep all his referrals in a scrapbook. ;)
  • Shishkab, thank you so much for sharing your story. I'm so glad that you were finally vindicated and found a good doctor. It can be so frustrating sometimes when you can't get someone to listen to you. After having some pretty awful experiences with doctors (especially the appendectomy at LICH 20 years ago) I tend to be distrustful and very skeptical of new doctors. Once I find one I like I stick with them but it's so hard finding a good one!

    Again, thank you so much for your story and your excellent advice. :)
  • shishkab, if i believed every doctor who told me i had nothing wrong with me, well, i might be dead. my dad was a physican (old school), so it's been hard growing up getting amazing care because of who we knew, and then being a grown up and finding out that care out here in the real world can be really, really sucky.

    in the last years of his life we clashed a whole lot on this issue (he wasn't practicing, so he really hadn't seen just how bad things have become), but i learned to be an advocate in helping take care of him. we'd go to the hospital, the one where he once practiced--FOR YEARS--and they'd assembly line him, and poorly. he never wanted to speak up so i would start getting people moving. it's really, really pathetic how sick people are treated, and i'm glad we agree about someone being an advocate for you.
  • i just went to dr. fletcher today from the recs on this board...he's great!

    like someone mentioned, he's really thorough & completely listens to everything you say.

    so, thanks to all of you, i now have a new gp with awesome hours!
  • [quote="lilyhaze"]i just went to dr. fletcher today from the recs on this board...he's great!quote]

    Good to hear... did you tell him how you heard about him?
  • I love Dr. Fletcher. He was my doctor when I lived here some 16 years ago and my ex-husband and daughter have both been going to see him. I just got onto Oxford again and signed him up as my primary physician.
  • I might be extra partial to Dr. Raffinan because besides being caring and thorough and responsive, he's hella cute (and married). Still, it makes going to the doctor a wee bit more pleasant :-)
  • Flexichick wrote: I might be extra partial to Dr. Raffinan because besides being caring and thorough and responsive, he's hella cute (and married). Still, it makes going to the doctor a wee bit more pleasant :-)
    dr raffinan is my doctor too. he is a pretty great doctor. i've been going to him for 3 years. i've always thought he was pretty nice to look at. but i've never seen a wedding ring on his hand. i thought that the was NOT married. are you sure that he is? did he get married recently?

    just curious ...
  • Yes, he's married.


    Plus he never pooh-poohs the alternative treatments I try for sinuses (I've been getting acupuncture for a few years and that seems to help).
  • Sadly - Dr. Raffinan doesn't have any appointments until May and Dr. Fletcher isn't on my insurance plan (BCBS) - can anyone else make any recommendations for a doctor in the greater Downtown Brooklyn area? (Out to Windsor Terrace or whatever.)
  • It's hard to get an appointment with Raffinan. If you have the time and patience, just show up during clinic hours and wait to see him. He doesn't do full physicals w.o appoitnment, but he will see you for treatment.
  • Yeah - I just feel weird about going there for an "emergency" without having a previous relationship with him. My current doctor, who I really like, only has an office in the Bronx, and I just can't deal with the 1-1/2 hour commute each way. I've made an appointment with Raffinan in May, I guess I will continue with my old doctor until then. (I'll also have to say goodbye to the yummy Trini, Jamaican, and Ghanaian food up there, though.)
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